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Old 12-31-2003, 05:56 PM
WiseWords WiseWords is offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Andrea
Wise words,
Why do you feel it is so necessary to insult people? Does it make you feel smart? Powerful? Knowledgeable?
Your assumptions, as usual, are way off base.
I do not feel it is necessary to insult people,
nor did I say that I did.
Don't attempt to get me to defend your mis-interpretations
of the facts.

As I have had diabetes for more than six times the length
that you have, (and am active in educational areas),
I do not regard you as the all knowing
source of wisdom that you perceive yourself to be
on many boards.

Whenever I give out some factual information,
I include links to verify or expand upon it,
for those who want to learn more, or question what I have said.

There are many obvious areas for diabetics,
which should not be debatable with regard to
proper care or procedure.

Telling someone that the idea they had is incorrect,
and then proving it to them,
is not insulting,
although I will acknowledge that some egos may be bruised.
Quote:
Originally posted by Andrea It actually is true that if a person has no trouble
with glucose metablolism, their blood glucose levels
shouldn't go above 120 mg/dl.
That is only so, concerning areas of a so-called
normal BG, when a person has not recently eaten food.
No one was disputing, or for that matter,
even discussing, what the normal range of the BG is for a human being.
The discussion, which did seem to get off track,
was about whether or not the BG rises after a person eats.
The answer is that it does rise, and it doesn't matter whether
one is a diabetic or not.
In a non-diabetic, the pancreas starts producing insulin
when the BG rises, and that brings it back down to a normal
level below 120.
Going above 120, after eating, does not mean that one is a diabetic,
which is what started off the discussion.
Quote:
Originally posted by Andrea Of course, it is possible, but usually only happens in the
case of transient illness and other extrenuating circumstances.
It must also be noted that although we like to talk in nice round numbers, the body doesn't work like that.
120 was not being used in this discussion as an absolute,
exacting number. 120/110 was being used as the standard
reference numbers that they are.
Quote:
Originally posted by Andrea
I had friends in university who liked to play with my glucometer.
{I bet he did !} One friend would test (and find his blood glucose level almost always at 5.6mmol/L or 100 mg/dl), then drink a litre (a quart) of orange juice. He would then test his blood glucose every 15 minutes for an hour and it never went above 5.8 mmol/L or 104 mg/dl. That is how a working pancreas is supposed to work!
Actually, I have read enough of your posts to know that
you know better than that.
That is not at all how a pancreas is supposed to work.
He may have had other problems with an over-active pancreas,
or, it may have been do to the extra large amount of carbs
from a whole quart of OJ---about 108 gms of carbs all at once.

BTW, your constant use of the word "glucometer" is,
I believe, a carry-over from one of the meters you
used to have. That word is also occasionally misused by
professionals when referring to a BG meter, or just a meter,
among those in a diabetes group. I don't know if it may
also be a French word. Glucometer is the name of a specific
brand of meters for blood glucose testing, but it is not
a generic term for BG meters.
Quote:
Originally posted by Andrea
Anyway, i understand the desire for accuracy.
There are so many myths about diabetes out there
that i don't even know if it is possible to dispel them all.
Especially since it is sometimes our doctors and other medical
professionals who are giving false information.
I agree with you that it is frustrating to read information
on the net that is not correct.
But that is no reason to insult or chastize others. People come to
a forum because they want
support and to LEARN.
{They are not going to learn by
giving support to incorrect ideas. That would be insulting.}

It is normal that not everyone in the world knows everything
there is to know about diabetes. Please be respectful of others.
Andrea
Always try to be, but not at the expense of truth and knowledge.
Have a good & healthy New Year.

PS: By the time this is posted, it will probably be New year's
in Paris. What is it like to celebrated in Paris? There is a
lot of extra police protection at large events in the US.
Times Square in NYC will be on the internet at this link:
--->
New Year's - 2004
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