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Old 03-23-2008, 12:56 PM
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Eddy Eddy is offline
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What is 1U of CHO?
15g (sorry; I thought that was considered "standard")

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The only way to get such fine control is with a pump. But I question whether this kind of micro-management is such a good idea. I have been down that road and it nearly drove me crazy .
I get my best sleep in the low 90s and high 80s... so I really like to nail my nighttime numbers. And more [accurate] information is better information. And I might decide that it's not worth the effort.

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You could cut down on the waste by getting your insulin in 3 ml cartridges.
Pen only, right? I like creating a mix to match what I eat.

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I am curious. Why would you want to use NPH to bolus, as you say in your signature? It is a long acting insulin.
In the small doses that I use, it finishes in about 5.5 hours. Certain foods, such as whole-grain rice spaghetti with marinara, match up near perfectly with 1:1:3 rapid:R:N mix.

Once in a while, I'll eat a huge lunch. Not often, but I've done the 200g CHO lunch now and then. Unless I substitute a couple units of N for R, I'll go hypo around two hours post-prandial.

When I used Lantus (I'm nearly 100% switched to Levemir now), I shot Lantus at dinnertime. I added 1U NPH to my breakfast bolus, and 2U NPH to my lunchtime, to cover the Lantus fade. I decided it wasn't worth an extra needle to split the Lantus dose.

Now I'm trying shorter-acting, and supposedly/seemingly more-consistent, Levemir. To exercise, I need to cut my basal dose; I go hypo _very_ quickly. There's a good chance I'll use some NPH for a supplemental basal to make up for reduced Levemir when I'm not exercising.

e.g.:

0900 : 8U Levemir instead of normal 15.5U
0900 : 1U R + 4U N to hold me until mid-day
1300 : aerobic exercise
2100 : 15.5U Levemir

(I've not gotten that far, so I have no idea what actual numbers will be.)

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As far as diluting is concerned, sure you could do that. But your insulin sensitivity doesn't seem to warrant it.
I might change my mind after trying it. But... as much as I respect your experience and opinions, I'm still not dissuaded from wanting to try.

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You are going to have to do this for a vary long time, so IMO you need to keep it all as simple as possible.
Any time I feel "cloud-headed", I check. Unless I've not eaten enough, I'm inevitably above 110. (Sometimes I'll feel fine at higher numbers.) I _really_ like to stay below 110-120 if at all possible. This limits my range, and means that sometimes I want a small correction.

So far, the rapid/R/N mix has proved more desirable than multiple shots or "close enough with one insulin for bolus" control. Would monthly preparation of diluted rapid/R/N really add that much hassle or complexity? I tend to think it would not.

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The suggestion to find smaller needles sounds like a sensible one to me.
That might be worth a shot, so to speak. If anyone has any leads... I've found naught less than 30U.
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DXed 2007/04 = advanced-stage DKA, A1c of 12.9%, and BMI of 21.3
post-DX A1c = 5.4% @ 2008/07; 5.2% @ 2008/04; 5.3% @ 2007/12; 5.3% @ 2007/08
c-peptide = 0.0% @ 2008/07
current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24
basal = 4U human N @ 0630, 7U human N @ 1130, 7U human N @ 1630, 17U detemir @ 2030
bolus = 1:15 I:C ratio; varying mix of aspart, human R, human N

not a low-CHO eater... not even close!
last updated 2008/08/26 - playing with daytime basal again!

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