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As for your reply Redlan, well, as I stated I'm not a low carber wasn't interested in one camp or the other - and the reason for my post was not to argue one way or the other but to give some teeth back to your original heavy handed post in the hope less sophistry (in my mind) might be employed. The aim of that is not personal attack, but just to ward off potential BS, I hope you appreciate that. I'm not sure about where that stands. You continue to sound as if you are busy constructing points against low carb, many assumptions and basing points on data you claim is flawed - yet you take and run with in order to "score" points. At times you verge on saying low-carb versus other are virtually equalised. Then there is a general tenor of "win or defeat" for a diet, that I do not understand, and which seems very premature given the variable indications present about these dietary options. I don't get where you are coming from, myself.