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Sexual Descrimination in Nutritional Services?

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by on 02-11-2012 at 06:42 AM (2212 Views)
Read the question mark as John not knowing what he's talking about [add because he's a man, if you so wish. I won't be offended.]

I stumbled upon a post linking a vegetarian food guide back to the Dietitians of Canada. It's a dead link. Yay, they've seen the error in their ways. I went to their real site and looked around. I wasn't looking for anything in particular. I just browsed out of curiosity. I quickly came across their "Career Stories" section, profiles of dietitians in various roles.

I skimmed through the profiles. I even opened a few. There's a lots of description about their roles. It's a nice site with only a couple of minor technical glitches. Here's a header image from the site. It's quite professional looking, and everybody wears happy, happy, joy, joy faces. It feels congruent with my own impression of dietitians. I run into them once in awhile at the local diabetic teaching clinic, at company dietary education presentations, at diabetic events, and we'd consullted a few in our now dead diabetes support group. They all look like the women in this picture: happy, happy, joy, joy women, often wearing lab coats. Congruency.



I decided to think. I think it's a good idea to think about what you see and ask why it makes you feel the way you do and whether those thoughts and feelings are valid, correct. Or if they are they artificially induced by marketing techniques.

Some of my thoughts bothered me. I thought about what happens to these happy faces when I tell them I don't eat grains and very low carb in general. The sunshine turns grey, the teeth get bared, and the hairs on their backs stand up. Suddenly my thoughts were no longer about congruency.

I realized these women had something against my style of eating. I didn't dig into the style of eating topic. I know it's a dead end. But I did realize I was viewing my happy, happy, joy, joy image of dietitians with a lychnathropic bent as all women. I was not able to relate any of my images and feelings to the man of the tribe. I looked through the career stories again. I counted 70 profiles in 11 career streams. I counted two men. 68 to 2, good odds if you're shopping around for a woman. Try the dietitian bar next time. Must be a hopping spot.

I said the word I usually say when something bothers me: why? Why are almost all dietitians women, and is this a problem? Is this a genetic abberation, a cultural difference, or maybe outright sexual descrimination? I have no doubt that if 97% of dietitians were male, that the female of the species would be at least a little bit upset.

Honestly, I have no desire to think this through. Give me your comments please. But I will say that the whole idea of Grok does seem very male oriented. Yes, an image of a naked woman hunting down a wild animal with a spear is sexy to me, very sexy to me, but is the opposite true? Women seem to prefer well dressed, well mannered, candy-a$$ed men. Men like I see profiled on their site.

Cultural differences. So we have this group of dietitians with regulatory power to decide what people should eat, who feed our sick, invalid, and government sponsered citizens, and they are dominated by a group of people who prefer to work in a garden and a nice warm kitchen than run around naked, hunting wild beasts with primitive weapons. If that's not an inherent food bias, I don't know what is. No wonder Canada is so obese and sick.

Put Grok in charge ... NOW, before it's too late.

Updated 02-11-2012 at 08:36 AM by xMenace

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  1. A1C's Avatar
    The 97% statistic does not prove causation as far as sexual discrimination against men. I am American not Canadian so I am not familiar with the history of sexual discrimination in Canadian. I am sure sexual discrimination against men could be an explanation, however perhaps the reason why most dietitians in Canada are women is historically they had been locked out of working in other healthcare professions.

    I do not know the statistics off of the top of my head in the United States, however one of the reasons many nurses are women is because historically women have been discriminated against in being admitted into medical school and working as physicians although that has changed in recent history.
  2. xMenace's Avatar
    I am not accusing anybody of sexual discrimination, but I do raise the term as a possibility. Your idea that this skewed population is due to man's sexual discrimination of women rings very true. Things are not always as they appear, and yes, causation cannot be determined by statistics. Thank you very much for your insights.

    My 97% population is based on the images I found only. If it's closer to 50%, then I have to ask why men aren't profiled. Sexual discrimination?

    Board of Directors and CEO is ten women and zero men. Dietitians of Canada - Board of Directors

    The Board of the Canadian Association for Dietetic Research is 8 women and 2 men. CFDR - Board

    The US 2010 Dietary Guidelines Committee 8 of 13 are women, 62% http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/Publication...se10-24-08.pdf

    The American Dietetic Association's board of directors consists of 11 women and 2 men, 85% American Dietetic Association Names 2011-12 Board of Directors Neither of the men have dietetic professional credentials. One is a doctor and the other an MBA.

    Regardless of the causes, is this sexual bias an issue? I'm not sure it isn't.
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    Updated 02-11-2012 at 09:11 AM by xMenace
  3. foxl's Avatar
    Men who get RD's go quite far, however!

    I know more men are moving into nursing, so I do wonder why not Nutrition and Dietetics?
  4. xMenace's Avatar
    I say nothing about trends.
  5. DeusXM's Avatar
    So we have this group of dietitians with regulatory power to decide what people should eat, who feed our sick, invalid, and government sponsered citizens, and they are dominated by a group of people who prefer to work in a garden and a nice warm kitchen than run around naked, hunting wild beasts with primitive weapons. If that's not an inherent food bias, I don't know what is.
    I know this is supposed to be tongue in cheek, but this just reeks of prejudice on your part.

    We can argue all we like about the supposed differences in dietary approach between men and women. My response is to ask you to look at the mortality and morbidity stats for men and women. Then you tell me which one seems to have the better dietary approach.
  6. xMenace's Avatar
    I'm all about breaking down walls, barriers to the best lives we can all live. I ask questions with serious intent. My observation is sexually predjudiced by any statistical measure - 97%. Nobody can argue there's a sexual bias in food guidance based on data I've provided. By writing about it, am I as well? I admit my tone does not favor the woman in the crowd, but I write as a man, in this story.

    Life expectancy seems to always favor women. Is there any logic to the idea that maybe men and women have evolved to eat different diets? While man was out gutting wildebeasts, were the women at home knawing on fruit? Do traditional and sexual differences indicate we might need two dietary approaches? Are the women standing up for the diet right for them but wrong for me? Is this modern female enforced diet bad for me and causing my 4.7 year life expectancy deficiency? Has anybody else ever thought these questions? Have they been studied?
  7. DeusXM's Avatar
    Is there any logic to the idea that maybe men and women have evolved to eat different diets?
    Not really - the basic principle behind human biology is the fact that we live in mixed groups, so what one person is eating, the other probably is too.

    While man was out gutting wildebeasts, were the women at home knawing on fruit?
    I hope not, because this would suggest that women shouldn't be low-carbing. Wouldn't it make more sense that the men would bring their kill back to the tribe and share it with those left at the campfire?

    Is this modern female enforced diet bad for me and causing my 4.7 year life expectancy deficiency?
    Doutbful. I'd hardly call this diet 'female enforced' and I'd also seriously question how many people actually follow nutritionist guidelines to the letter. There seems to be a prevalent naive belief that everybody eats according to what the nutritionists tell them to. The biggest selling drink in the West is Coca-Cola. The biggest selling food is McDonalds. It's safe to say that nutritionists are not exactly enforcing any particular diet on the general population. I know it's easy to whinge at nutritionists and blame them for all societies ills (because hey, it involves asking fewer questions about personal conduct AND of course they must be evil anyway because they've called a blogger on his bad science and attempts to commericalise on that) but the question you really should be asking before all of this is "what percentage of people rigidly follow the diet recommended by nutritionists?"
  8. Ela's Avatar
    Is a nutritionist a good paying job?

    I wonder too why is it bothering you so much? And being a woman, would it bother me if 98% of dietitians were men? I don’t think so. This occupation doesn’t seem to be very important or prestigious. As Deus mentioned earlier, who even listens to nutritionists?

    Now look at presidential candidates for example; 99% of them are men and that does bother me quite a bit.
  9. Chanson13's Avatar
    Interestingly, according to the U.S. Dept of Labor, in 2010, 92% of dieticians were female. The other jobs that had 92% (or more) females were receptionists, bill collectors (huh?) dental hygenists/assistants, and child care workers. Nurses in general were up in the upper 80's. I have to confess that I thought we were a much more egalitarian society. I know quite a few male nurses, but the statistics are what they are. On the other hand, women are really under-represented in the building trades (generally less than 5%) extraction industries (oil field workers) and pest control (obviously a natural affinity for us men).
  10. killerleaf's Avatar
    actually, I have often wondered if men and women don't have different needs when it comes to diet. While my hubby and I both have gained weight eating the same things, when it has come to taking it off, two different approaches have been needed. He can go low low carb with no problems, and lose the weight. I, on the other hand, stayed steady as a rock, and only lost 2 pounds eating the same things, (smaller quanity, but the same things). He lost 50. However, when I switched tactics, and added a few carbs to mine, (he eats about 30-40 a day, I eat 80-100) I am losing the weight now.

    Weird, weird.