[Scrabblechick]

McDonald's was a treat to us when we were kids, too. With my Dad having "D" we didn't do that sort of thing very often. I still eat the VERY occasional Egg McMuffin, but that's really it.

My fast food cravings (usually unsatisfied. LOL.) generally involve a chicken and biscuit from Jack's. Heh.

[jacobsam622]

Originally Posted by Sic

Hi! Im new here, so as i was able to see thers no subjeckt like this! So, i have diabetes for 6 months now and im in remision, age 20! I calculate carbs every day and eat about 150-200g for glucose lvl about 6.5 (120 on american). I saw that mcdonnalds food have pretty much carbs especially frise! Anybody have experiance to share with mcdonald food?! (Thanks, and sorry for my bad english...)

Remission you dont go into remission Diabetes progressively gets worse. Lets see you can lose a foot or leg, go blind, have kidney and or liver failure, teeth fall-out, lose feeling in feet hands and stomach etc.

get on a good diet the life you will be saving is your own.

There are several diets you can follow south-beach, Atkins, sugar-busters, etc, etc,

None of these diets are totally correct.

When determining carbs subtract the fiber from total carbs. You can also subtract artificial sweeteners.

portion control is a must and do not get seconds


foods you can eat:

Meat, = Beef well trimmed, chicken, fish broiled or baked, eggs

Nuts - most nuts are low in carbs, peanuts, walnuts, almonds, any that have total carbs of less then 10g

spread buy no sugar added jelly or there are several reduced sugar, no sugar added Peanut butter

vegetables = almost anything but corn If you eat corn stick
with the small kernel corn on the cob.

sugar free ice cream, sugar free jello chocolate that has a
cocoa % >= 60%

Breads = whole grain or low carb whole grain.

pasta = whole grain

rice = brown rice

sodas = diet only

alcohol = Low carb beer, brands like Mich ultra, miller-lite, there is at two others. Red wine or wine that is at least 13% alcohol
tequila

avoid high carb food any anything with a lot of refined sugar

Fruit = try different ones to see how they effect your BS

Apples should not be eaten at meal time.

general rule if its brown then its OK for diabetes

[HelenM]

You say that you are 'in remission' . I'm assuming that means that you are type 1 'on honeymoon'.
As others have said the real problem with Mcdonalds is the fat rather than the carbs and the fat can cause a problem by delaying delaying the carb increase until much later after your meal. Over time you may learn ways to manipulate your insulin injections to get over this. Nevertheless many people believe a high fat diet is not good for anyone and particularly for people with diabetes.
Having said that I've eaten at Mcdonalds a handful of times (in three years) and have not suffered any dire consequences as the majority of the time I try to eat very healthily.


One point, what you do with fibre in your calculations depends on where you live.
Jacobsam mentions that you should deduct fibre from the carb count. This is true if you live in the US (and I think Canada) but not in Europe where the fibre content has already been deducted from the carbs.
eg. A quarter pounder with cheese in the US is listed as having 40 gms of of carbs and 3 gms of fibre
In the UK it is listed as 36gms of carbs and 4 gms of fibre.
In the US you would deduct 3 gms making 37 gms carbs
In the UK you would leave it at 36gms carbs and not subtract the fibre.
(I expect the difference is due to rounding errors)

[alicat61]

Originally Posted by jacobsam622

Remission you dont go into remission Diabetes progressively gets worse. Lets see you can lose a foot or leg, go blind, have kidney and or liver failure, teeth fall-out, lose feeling in feet hands and stomach etc.

get on a good diet the life you will be saving is your own.

There are several diets you can follow south-beach, Atkins, sugar-busters, etc, etc,

None of these diets are totally correct.

When determining carbs subtract the fiber from total carbs. You can also subtract artificial sweeteners.

portion control is a must and do not get seconds


foods you can eat:

Meat, = Beef well trimmed, chicken, fish broiled or baked, eggs

Nuts - most nuts are low in carbs, peanuts, walnuts, almonds, any that have total carbs of less then 10g

spread buy no sugar added jelly or there are several reduced sugar, no sugar added Peanut butter

vegetables = almost anything but corn If you eat corn stick
with the small kernel corn on the cob.

sugar free ice cream, sugar free jello chocolate that has a
cocoa % >= 60%

Breads = whole grain or low carb whole grain.

pasta = whole grain

rice = brown rice

sodas = diet only

alcohol = Low carb beer, brands like Mich ultra, miller-lite, there is at two others. Red wine or wine that is at least 13% alcohol
tequila

avoid high carb food any anything with a lot of refined sugar

Fruit = try different ones to see how they effect your BS

Apples should not be eaten at meal time.

general rule if its brown then its OK for diabetes

Hi
The above diet choices are good but you also have to remember
that type 2 is slightly different to type 1 as in the fact insulin is used to cover extra carbs. Also weight loss is usually not an issue
Also at 20 were do all your mates eat so the occasional Macdonalds isn't the end of the earth. Diabetes causes major changes in your life and to totaly give up everything you enjoy will cause you to go into denial mode.( and you shouldn't have to give up everything)
as long as you calculate the extra carbs and correct them with exercise and insulin.
Also I'm just curios as why you can't eat apples with meals I have been diabetic for nearly 26 years and have never heard that one before. (sorry my spelling is not good )

[Emm]

McDonalds here in New Zealand must be a bit different - our Filet-O-Fish is 30.5g carb. Which to me is just too much, mainly because it's hard to eat a little burger like that without the chips!

The kiwi nutritional info is here

I don't mind splurging every now & then, but 30g on one thing is too much for me! I try to stick to around 30g of carb or less per meal, and it's sooo much easier if that's slower acting carbs.

[kstreeter513]

Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg

I use to eat McDonald's at least 2-3 times a week (either breakfast, lunch, or dinner) and it never caused havoc with my BGs. I actually had it under great control. The problem is it caused my cholestrol to go up and by cutting it out it's dropped about 20. I will say I miss the taste though and hate spending twice as much to eat healthy now.

Yeah, but how much does it cost these days to roto-rooter your carotids?

[HelenM]

McDonalds here in New Zealand must be a bit different - our Filet-O-Fish is 30.5g carb.

Its worth looking at the nutritional content for your country.
The Mcdos fish in the US has more calories and fat, the one in France more carbs and the UK more salt. They obviously cater for the individual national tastes. (probably also different methods of calculating)

Filet-o-Fish(tm) UK
kcal: 360.00
protein:16.00
total carbs38.00g
total fat 16.00g
(saturated) 3.00 g
fibre 3.00 g
salt 1.7g

Filet of Fish NZ
kcal: 325
protein:15.00g
total carbs 30.5 gm
total fat 15.5. g
(saturated) 3.3 g
fibre n/a
salt .695mg

Filet of Fish US
Kcal 380
protein:15.00g
total carbs 38g
total fat 18g
(saturated) 4 g
fibre n/a
salt 660mg

Mc Fish France
kcal: 305
protein:15.00g
total carbs 42gm
total fat 8 g
(saturated)n/a
fibre n/a
salt 1.5g

[Dimes]

I wasn't aware anyone ate the fish-filet.. News to me..

[shake_sugaree]

Originally Posted by Dimes

I wasn't aware anyone ate the fish-filet.. News to me..

BILLIONS SERVED !!!

...three eaten

[jacobsam622]

Originally Posted by alicat61

Hi
The above diet choices are good but you also have to remember
that type 2 is slightly different to type 1 as in the fact insulin is used to cover extra carbs. Also weight loss is usually not an issue
Also at 20 were do all your mates eat so the occasional Macdonalds isn't the end of the earth. Diabetes causes major changes in your life and to totaly give up everything you enjoy will cause you to go into denial mode.( and you shouldn't have to give up everything)
as long as you calculate the extra carbs and correct them with exercise and insulin.
Also I'm just curios as why you can't eat apples with meals I have been diabetic for nearly 26 years and have never heard that one before. (sorry my spelling is not good )

I said apple because its the only fruit I can eat but it actually applies to all fruit. The reason you should eat fruit before or after a meal is because fruit is digested in the small intestine and when you eat it with other foods the emptying from the stomach is delayed which causes indigestion gas and acid reflux.

[alicat61]

Originally Posted by jacobsam622

I said apple because its the only fruit I can eat but it actually applies to all fruit. The reason you should eat fruit before or after a meal is because fruit is digested in the small intestine and when you eat it with other foods the emptying from the stomach is delayed which causes indigestion gas and acid reflux.

Hi,
Thanks for the above info, I guess it applies to some people only. As I have never had a problem,nor have I heard anyone else mention it. When I was at school it was the done thing to have a sandwich and peice of fruit for lunch.
Some people are prone to indigestion and reflux no matter what they eat

[David_S]

with 3 kids.. we end up there sometimes. Now I take my own bread.. wife puts it in her purse! haha. I take my 2 slices of bread.. 5 carbs each.. and trade out the bread on the big mac.. it goes from 47 carbs to 14. So it is do-able that way.
If we don't plan and no bread.. I take it off anyway. I count fries as a carb each.. and have no more then 20 or so..

[volleyball]

The hamburgers are the healthiest think at mickey d's. I go for the double cheeseburger and bum a few fries from someone or buy the little one and eat a few. Maybe 2 doubles on 1 bun.
I laugh at those people eating one of those cheap salads to be good and load them with croutons and dressing

[sprzepiora]

Originally Posted by fgummett

...it's just that you have to be aware of what you are eating and how it affects your blood glucose; which you can only find out by testing

yes, lots and lots of testing

[ant hill]

Mac Donald's has been touted a bad thing due to how they keep their food that lasts in their fridge. And that it in a nut shell.
So how do they do it, Well it's a common thing called trans fats as this is what we argue about then add the sugar and what would you get, Food that has high GI and lasts a long time so your BG will stay high too.
So what do we do? Well we bolus HARD!!! and LONG!!!
I think that whatever we eat is to eat everything in moderation and not too much of a good thing and exercise is also what we don't do often. So if you were to low carb then stay away from Mac Donald's and you may lose fat!!
So this is indeed very high in carbs.