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Old 04-29-2008, 08:25 PM
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Diet

I want to know what diet you are on or not on, who suggested and how well it work. It seems to me a lot of people have joined the forum lately and I think they would benefit from us talking about how we have gotten onto our groove.

First I want to start off by saying Please don't attack anybody's Diet choice I am sure like myself many of you have tried different diets until you reached a place where you felt comfortable.

I have been on the Sugar busters diet for about three months My doctor recommended the book "Sugar busters" after my A1C went over 8.0 I will be going for another A1C in a couple of weeks. Since I have been on the diet I have lost about 8# and my bg readings have gone from the 225 -240 2 hours after meals to 140 -75 after meals. While I don't agree with all of the books assumptions I think there is a lot of valuable information to be gleemed from its pages.

Oh the part I don't agree with is fruit. I don't eat fruit.


Sample of my diet

Foods you can eat:

Meat = Beef well trimmed, chicken, fish broiled or baked, eggs, Ham, hotdogs without bun

Nuts - most nuts are low in carbs, peanuts, walnuts, almonds, any that have total carbs of less then 10g

spreads buy no sugar added jelly or try one of several reduced sugar brands , no sugar added Peanut butter – good for cholesterol

vegetables = almost anything but corn If you eat corn stick
with the small kernel corn on the cob. Eat lots of Green beans it raises good cholesterol

Sugar free ice cream, sugar free jell-o

Chocolate that has a cocoa % >= 60% or low carb chocolate

Breads = whole grain or low carb whole grain.

Pasta = whole grain: Dreamfields, Wal-Mart has good brand
Sauce = tomato sauce with lots of meatballs

rice = brown rice, wild rice

sodas = diet only or tap water/ bottle water when I work out

alcohol = Low carb beer, brands like Michelob ultra, Miller-Lite, there is at two others. Red wine or wine that is at least 13% alcohol
tequila

avoid high carb food any anything with a lot of refined sugar

Fruit = try different ones to see how they effect your BS

if you have acid reflux avoid eating fruit at meal time.

General rule if it’s brown then its OK for diabetes
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Ok Wildcards watch your six.

You too will be assimilated! You will become one with the Borg. You will all become one with the borg."

To lose this war means more than defeat. To surrender is to never go home. All of us must rise to the call above and beyond". Lt Col TC McQueen

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Old 04-29-2008, 09:08 PM
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More and more I am following Michael Pollan's advice from In Defense of Food which is actually a great read: Eat food. Not too much. Mostly Plants. In many ways Pollan is right: why do we need to have discussions on doing something we've been doing successfully for millenia? How in God's name can such a scietifically and technologically advanced society develop a diet, the Western Diet, that is guaranteed to harm us?

I find myself questioning everything I eat. Some rules of thumb I am following include
- if I can't shoot it or pick it, why eat it?
- if germs won't eat it, why should I?
- if it's wrapped in anything but cellophane, should I eat it?
- if it has more than five ingredients or ingredients I can't recognize, should I eat it?
- eat a fruit or veggie with every meal.
- make my own bread: I control ingredients.

There is too much evidence that eating lots of meat kills us off early. Cardiac troubles and Cancer are problems I'd rather not face. Neither is kidney failure. (No I don't wish to debate it)
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:35 PM
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I'm "only" pre-D but...

I've been following Eat Right 4 Your Type (The bloodtype diet).

My dad, a recently diagnosed type 2 diabetic was advised by a family member to go on this diet. He has and some amazing things have happened. His blood sugars are mostly controlled in the near normal to normal range. He's not on meds and his numbers plummeted from the 300's down to near normal levels. He's 70 and an atypical diabetic. (No family history, thin, and active). He did eat tons of sugars and carbs for years prior to his diagnosis though). He doesn't count carbs at all and just picks foods from his "highly beneficial" and "nuetral" lists and tries to avoid the "avoids" on his list. He eats cheeseburgers with the white buns, fries, etc.

The doctors are amazed but skeptical. His doctor told him, "wow your numbers are great!" "But that's not the way I would have chosen."

The belief of this diet is that certain foods contain harmful lectins which can cause all sorts of health issues for people if they eat foods that react badly to their specific blood type.

I have been moderately following it ( I am the same blood type as my dad) and have lost 15 lbs in the last month coupled with exercises. My lower intestines have all but stopped gurgling (I've had problems for years with gurgling intestines) so I believe it is a good over-all diet but UNLIKE my dad, I choose foods in my beneficial and nuetral list that also happen to be lower carbs (for the most part)

I eat ezekiel bread, organic rice, millet, or oat-based cereals, salads almost daily, sugar free pudding/jello, almonds for snacks, egg whites, cheeses, yogurt (Dannon light & fit), Tuna, Salmon, Ground beef, and Turkey for my meats.

I also have been super strict on portion sizes. I try hard to not go over the serving sizes on the box and try also to avoid "cheating" (although today I had about two servings worth of "Combos" pretzel/cheese filled snacks).
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:10 PM
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[quote=felinefan67;329825]I've been following Eat Right 4 Your Type (The bloodtype diet).

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That's impressive felinefan. My doctor recomended that diet a few years ago. I think mainly to drum up business with her peer that charged $200 for a print out of foods for ones bloodtype. I've since bought the book on ebay but havn't gone through it yet.
I'll have to do so now


I follow the diet from my diabetic education session. Almost low carb & low fat
1 carb exchange = 15g
2 carb exch breakfast & lunch & 3 for dinner
1 morning & afternoon tea only if ive worked / exercised hard.
plenty of salad or low carb veges.
Small serve of protein , the size & thickness of the palm of hand.
I spread wholegrain bread with 97% mayo instead of butter if needed & spray olive oil on pan instead of pouring
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April 08 A1C 6.5

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nutrition & exercise
Vitamin B ...July 08
Fish Oil Capsules... June 08
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Old 04-30-2008, 02:54 AM
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my diet and i have lost 50 lbs on this

Okay here goes . No bread ,no potatoes baked or other wise . No rice . I eat alot of veggies . I dont eat beans though because of the gas . I eat more chicken and fish than red meat . I dont eat pizza ,no jellos ,no cakes ,no ice creams ,no sweets at all . I eat a cereal bar for breakfast at 90 calories the special k ones , and a rice cake for a snack and then for lunch I will have another cereal bar and then mid afternoon i will have another rice cake . and then for dinner i will eat a 2 oz piece of either chicken or fish , . This is what I eat .I have learned to starve LOL!!! just kidding it sounds like I am starving but I am not . Oh and no dairy as well . I never did eat dairy anyways due to lactose intolerance .
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:46 AM
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I follow the Bernstein plan (6, 12, 12). It is pretty strict, but I really have no trouble with it. I have been on it for over a year and a half and I find it works best for me. I find that it keeps my bg numbers very stable without any spikes.
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:02 AM
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I avoid white foods (potatoes, rice, pasta and bread). I eat between 75-100 gms of carbs/day, sometimes less. I eat a lot of salads, green veggies and lean meats, cheese, eggs and nuts.

For my ice-cream fix, I have the Breyer's carb smart ice cream and I enjoy s/f jello or pudding.

I eat the Nature's Own double fiber wheat bread when I do have the occasional sandwich and use Dreamfield's pasta for the occasional spaghetti.

I love the Mission Brand Low Carb Tortillas as well.

When trying something new, I make sure and check my blood sugar response to the food...if its too high, I avoid that particular food.

One weekend a month, I have a "normal" meal, something I wouldn't usually eat. Its something to look forward to and allows me to stick to my better way of eating the rest of the time.
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:19 AM
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I don't follow any diets, never have. Instead I follow a healthy lifestyle including mostly ridiculously nutritious foods. Nothing is off limits - I can eat anything, but because I value my health I very often choose only healthy things to eat. I do have preferences, some strong, but taste most often loses to nutrition. I study nutrition using many sources. I can walk down a grocery store isle and at a glance I can pick out the healthiest items, but I read the labels anyway. I hear "there's nothing to eat!" from the kitchen but I can step in there, whip up a new and delicious healthy meal in no time without a plan or even a recipe.

I eat mostly fresh fruits and vegetables. I shop and cook for myself and my family but they help out too. When I cook, I make extra for later convenience. I eat very few prepared foods and in small quantities when I do. I set an excellent example for my family or anyone else who's paying attention.

Exercise is just as important as diet. I exert a lot of energy so I require good fuel to keep the pace.

My meal is a main course of nutrients and it comes with a side order of freedom and happiness, with cheese on top! Lots of cheese.
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:04 AM
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I follow a modification of the Bernstein plan, getting 50-75gm of carbs a day. I have oatmeal in the morning and eat a timed servings of carbs (20-50gm) right after any exercise session. Otherwise, no carb foods. No pasta, rice, potatoes, flour at all.

I try to get at least 200gm of protein a day, supplementing with protein drinks (also lots of eggs). I try to eat six times a day. I eat as much as I can, attempting to get massive quantities of vegetables when available (go Pollan). Only a few servings of fruit a week. I use lots of good fats, no trans fats. I have no fear of saturated fat. If I have the right foods available some days I may be able to get up to about 5000 calories per day, but unless I can get lots of good fats, it is very difficult.
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:02 AM
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I'm prediabetic and follow the Bernstein diet as well. No more than 6 grams of carbs at breakfast, and no more than 12 at dinner and at lunch. It's brought my numbers right down to where I want them. I'm fortunate in that food has never been the be all and end all for me so this is easy to do. Eggs either scrambled or an omelet for breakfast. Lunch is a half avocado or a salad and either cheese or deli turkey. Dinner is a couple of low carb vegetables and some kind of protein.

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Old 04-30-2008, 07:25 PM
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I try to avoid any starches (pasta, rice, potato, bread). Eat alot of different veggies and fruits (do avoid low GI ones). I eat alot of chicken and fish, some red meat, alot of tofu (love the stuff).

I'm trying to loose some weight and hopefully when I reach my goal I'll be able to incorporate some healthy starches in moderation.

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Old 05-01-2008, 08:21 AM
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No diet, but I try to stay under 1500 calories a day. Some days I'm under, some over...but that's my goal. I eat whatever carbs are reasonable...some healthy and some not. But, I always follow carbs with insulin...no exceptions.

Yesterday I had a "high carb" lunch...but it was lima beans, baked beans and two bites of cantalope!...(veg plate at diner)...so, the fiber is important to me as well.

I try to eat at least 15-30 g of carbs at a meal...but rarely go over 60-75. I do drink milk...so that's included in the carbs.
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:53 PM
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I mostly eat any meat, fish or seafood, green veggies, salads, old fashioned oatmeal, whole grains, brown rice. sugar free jello and puddings, no sugar added ice cream, yogurt and cottage cheese, cheese. Homemade breads, desserts and pastries following the guidelines on my website.

Stacey
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:37 PM
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I mostly eat any meat, fish or seafood, green veggies, salads, old fashioned oatmeal, whole grains, brown rice. sugar free jello and puddings, no sugar added ice cream, yogurt and cottage cheese, cheese. Homemade breads, desserts and pastries following the guidelines on my website.

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I worked as a chef for many years had to quite because my legs and back couldn't take the 10 -12 hour days, so I went back school and got a degree in computer programming. I worked behind a desk for 6 years and got diabetes. I guess the trade off was my twins if I hadnt gone back to school I would have met my wife. I guess the I will take the twins everytime
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Exercise = cardio and running after twins Ben & Josh

"Oh for Pete's sake" -Ben "Let me think" - Josh

Ok Wildcards watch your six.

You too will be assimilated! You will become one with the Borg. You will all become one with the borg."

To lose this war means more than defeat. To surrender is to never go home. All of us must rise to the call above and beyond". Lt Col TC McQueen

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