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06-24-2008, 11:40 AM
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| | | Anyone else see this?? Where do diabetics that are obese fit into this picture?? If the weight loss is greater with a "bigger" more carb-breakfast, and the breakfast carbs are metabolized better, then will that balance out the higher blood sugar spikes that occur in diabetics?? Yahoo! | 
06-24-2008, 11:54 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 1,885
| | I've seen it now... thanks for the clues
CNN video report about how eating a "big" breakfast lead to more weight loss.
No big surprise there. Breakfast IS the most important meal of the day. Eating the cheese, turkey/ham, milk and whole-grain bread plus a smear of butter is going to leave you feeling full for much longer through the rest of the day. Id' be interested in how the amounts and types of food eaten through the rest of the day compared in the two groups. As the announcer said, this does not give Carte Blanche to fill up on waffles, cream and syrup 
__________________ ~ Frank Metabolic Syndrome Dx'd March 2003. Started MM 712 Pump April 2004. MM 722 + Contour Link April 2008. "...subjects lose weight by restricting only sugars and starches, without feeling any particular sense of hunger. Moreover, the less carbohydrates in their diets, the greater their weight loss, even though all her subjects were eating equivalent amounts of calories and protein" - Gary Taubes, describing research by Margaret Ohlson | 
06-24-2008, 12:06 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NJ
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| | | What a load. Two pieces of bread is hardly a high carb breakfast. That breakfast that she had in front of her was not a big breakfast but pretty much what a normal person should eat. Most of these studies are biased anyway. I am a firm beleiver in a good meal plan. Do not diet, you have to change your eating habits. All these diets are a big money maker for someone.
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06-24-2008, 12:31 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada, Prince Edward Island
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| | | Not sure if it has anything to do with it or not - but prior to being DX'd I never ate breakfast. NEVER!
Since DX, I never miss it now - eat oatmeal, almonds and milk every day.
I did lose a lot of weight prior to the finding out I had diabetes because of the symptoms - but have not been able to put any of that weight back on, no matter how hard I try.
At 6"2 my heaviest I have ever been was 190-195lbs - Last year when I was put in the hospital when I found out I had the D I was in the 155lbs range - When I started taking insulin and eating a lot I quickly shot up to 170-175 lbs but 4-5 months ago dropped to 165 and have been sitting there every since.
I agree that the study could have had a little more to it - more of a controlled environment, but still interesting none the less.
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September 27, 2007 - 6.6
January 3, 2008 - 6.0
April 16, 2008 - 6.1
July 21, 2008 - 5.5 NovaRapid With Meals Levemir at Bedtime
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06-24-2008, 12:34 PM
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| | Same here... I was always skipping breakfast... too rushed and not really hungry first thing anyway. Now I make a point to never miss it for me and my son... and I do feel a difference later in the day.
Geez..! you folks with Type 1 have all the breaks: treated like you are really sick and not just self-inflicted by being fat and lazy... PLUS you get to easily lose weight 
__________________ ~ Frank Metabolic Syndrome Dx'd March 2003. Started MM 712 Pump April 2004. MM 722 + Contour Link April 2008. "...subjects lose weight by restricting only sugars and starches, without feeling any particular sense of hunger. Moreover, the less carbohydrates in their diets, the greater their weight loss, even though all her subjects were eating equivalent amounts of calories and protein" - Gary Taubes, describing research by Margaret Ohlson | 
06-24-2008, 03:19 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada, Prince Edward Island
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by fgummett Same here... I was always skipping breakfast... too rushed and not really hungry first thing anyway. Now I make a point to never miss it for me and my son... and I do feel a difference later in the day.
Geez..! you folks with Type 1 have all the breaks: treated like you are really sick and not just self-inflicted by being fat and lazy... PLUS you get to easily lose weight  | Ohh so Funny and true.
I always say to it could be worse, I could be type 2 :p
__________________ Mark K~ Type 1
Dx June 21st 2007 HbA1c
June 22, 2007 - 12.8
September 27, 2007 - 6.6
January 3, 2008 - 6.0
April 16, 2008 - 6.1
July 21, 2008 - 5.5 NovaRapid With Meals Levemir at Bedtime
Acetylsalicylic Acid (ASA) 81 mg Daily  "Diabetes is for the intelligent and disciplined." | 
06-24-2008, 03:32 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Glos
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| | | i once skipped breakfast and mi dad says 'lifes not worth liveing if u dont eat a decent breakfast' maybe a bit extreme but it is important, some1 comes round and 'doesnt eat breakfast' ... You What?, Why not? | 
06-24-2008, 08:18 PM
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| | | The women had a sandwich for breakfast. with butter. mayo would have been better.
That did look like whole grain bread which may have been the key.
The low carb breakfast was odd, butter on what? only 1 egg but 3 pieces of bacon. Does anybody eat like this?
I don't agree with breakfast being the most important meal of the day. I like to think all 60 7 of them are equally valuable.
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