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11-05-2009, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gary.keith  Thanks for crippling my willpower!  And this after I did so well today. Kept my BG in the 100-110 range with absolutely no PP bolusing. You have single handedly forced me to eat another package of Reese's Peanut Butter cups after dinner tonight!  | They darn better be Atkins Endulge PB cups! Not Reese's!
__________________  "Reputation is what others know about you.
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11-05-2009, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Granny Shanny | I haven't been able to find any place locally that sells them. I even asked the manager of my supermarket today and they're not on his list of things he can special order. Where do you get them from?
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Misdiagnosed T2 September 2009 with a BG of 1,240
Diagnosed T1 November 2009
A1c 9.4% November 2009
Novolog MDI
Lantus 25 morning / 30 evening
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11-05-2009, 05:18 PM
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| | It's that dad-burned Walmart that's 40 miles from you . . . or however far it is! 
__________________ "Reputation is what others know about you.
Honor is what you know about yourself." Lois McMaster Bujold "Courage is not the towering oak that sees storms come and go;
it is the fragile blossom that opens in the snow." Alice Mackenzie Swaim
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11-05-2009, 05:18 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Originally Posted by Joeprep4820 OJ is good for you, and it does contain sugar. The two are not mutually exclusive. The problem is that people drink way more than a serving size. OJ is much healthier than soda, and any doctor would agree with me, as would any nutritionist. | We're maybe taking this too far off topic but I'm not suggesting that OJ is the same as soda in all regards.
But that may be my whole issue with OJ: because it is perceived as healthy (which it is, in some regards), the assumption seems to be that more is better (as you say "serving size")... whereas vitamin C and all the other micro-nutrients are required in such "micro" quantities that more is not necessarily better at all AND you are getting a massive hit of concentrated sugar as a by product.
Why not just eat an orange? Wow.. this OJ out of a carton is just so darned convenient -- no messy peeling or seeds -- and tasty too (AKA sweet) maybe I'll have another please...
I watched a Mother and her toddler in the Mall a while back... they where both sucking back adult-sized fruit-smoothies from a local stand. I'll bet you any money that Mother thought she was doing the absolute best by her child and who could blame her for trying. Just imagine what kind of a sugar-hit that child was getting, and maybe once in while that may be OK... but I have to wonder how often it was repeated and the effect that would have in the long term..?
It's about perception.
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51 year old male, Metabolic Syndrome Dx Mar. 2003 |
11-05-2009, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Granny Shanny It's that dad-burned Walmart that's 40 miles from you . . . or however far it is! | I went to see exactly how many miles I was from that Walmart and guess what I found? A new Walmart that seems to have just opened and it's only about 15 minutes from where I live. Around here we tend to measure distances in how long it takes to drive there instead of the miles. Because if you look at a map and find where I live and where this new Walmart is you'd think it's a two minute drive. Traffic here is horrendous! I'll go there tomorrow. It'll be my very first time ever inside a Walmart. Please pray for me!
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Alright! I know I'm in there! If I don't come out, I'll have to come in after me!
Misdiagnosed T2 September 2009 with a BG of 1,240
Diagnosed T1 November 2009
A1c 9.4% November 2009
Novolog MDI
Lantus 25 morning / 30 evening
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11-05-2009, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fgummett We're maybe taking this too far off topic but I'm not suggesting that OJ is the same as soda in all regards.
But that may be my whole issue with OJ: because it is perceived as healthy (which it is, in some regards), the assumption seems to be that more is better (as you say "serving size")... whereas vitamin C and all the other micro-nutrients are required in such "micro" quantities that more is not necessarily better at all AND you are getting a massive hit of concentrated sugar as a by product.
Why not just eat an orange? Wow.. this OJ out of a carton is just so darned convenient -- no messy peeling or seeds -- and tasty too (AKA sweet) maybe I'll have another please...
I watched a Mother and her toddler in the Mall a while back... they where both sucking back adult-sized fruit-smoothies from a local stand. I'll bet you any money that Mother thought she was doing the absolute best by her child and who could blame her for trying. Just imagine what kind of a sugar-hit that child was getting, and maybe once in while that may be OK... but I have to wonder how often it was repeated and the effect that would have in the long term..?
It's about perception. | It appears you and I agree on this issue then. I drink grapefruit juice every morning anyway - more vitamins, less sugar, and still only drink an 8-10 ounce serving of it.
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11-05-2009, 06:31 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: China
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| | | Well, I would tell the PA to stuff it.
When they have MD after their name then can lecture me.
I'm allergic to onions but cooking them would surely raise the sugars.
Found that my Trop OJ (from concentrate) always blew my BG thru the roof and started diluting it with water 25-50% some time ago.
Too lazy to squeeze my own/eat them, also they are quite sour here - like grapefruit. |
11-05-2009, 06:51 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Topanga CA
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Originally Posted by fgummett Why not just eat an orange? | You beat me (again!) to this question. I'm sure any nutritionist would agree - it's an even healthier alternative than the juice.
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11-05-2009, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jenb You beat me (again!) to this question. I'm sure any nutritionist would agree - it's an even healthier alternative than the juice.
Jen | I agree, but when I'm having a hypo I'd rather get it up as quickly as possible rather than peel or handle a knife. I drink a serving size, 8 ounces or so, which is much less than what most people drink.
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Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service
Type I Diabetic since 1988
Pumper since 2007
7/09 A1C - 6.1
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11-05-2009, 08:05 PM
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| | | I can't drink juice at all, even in small amounts, my darned sugar spikes like crazy. I eat very little fruit really. It's something I hope is possible someday anyway..lol
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Changes:
10/8/09: 143 pounds 11/20/09 127
Medicine: Lantus (Started 10/8/09)
Metformin 500 2x daily (Started 10/19/09)
Lisinopril 5mg, up from 2.5 (Started 11/20/09), for my kidneys
100mg Effexor 2x daily, for anxiety
Buspar 2x daily as needed, for anxiety(Started 11/20/09
Alpha-Lipoic Acid 600mg
Omega 3 Mood, 2 capsules(2000mg)
Chromium 400mcg
Women's Ultra Mega Multivitamin(Gnc)
Last A1C, 8.5 after having a 10 on 10/8/09
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11-06-2009, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JayDee1950 When they have MD after their name then can lecture me. | They can try..!
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51 year old male, Metabolic Syndrome Dx Mar. 2003 |
11-06-2009, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gary.keith
That's a total of 25 grams of net carbs. More than half the net carbs (13g) come from the red onion. Do red onions really have that many carbs? I want to be sure of my facts before I tell the PA to mind her own business! | That is weird about the red onion, I would question that but you are correct there are plenty of carbs in there. Do what your body tells you too. Those are even the good carbs, complex carbs! I find that a good salad keeps my BG in perfect sync. You just keep doing what you are doing. 
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11-06-2009, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by fgummett All those refined/concentrated carbs at a time of day which many of us find is exactly when we have the least tolerance for any carbs. | Yupyupyup! And at least one study I've read showed that even those who are perfectly healthy (no diabetes or insulin resistance) are more sensitive to carbs first thing in the morning, so it's not just an issue for diabetics. Quote:
Originally Posted by fgummett They can try..! | heh, that's what I was thinking - having "MD" after their name STILL doesn't mean they're always right!
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11-06-2009, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dbaratta That is weird about the red onion, I would question that but you are correct there are plenty of carbs in there. Do what your body tells you too. Those are even the good carbs, complex carbs! I find that a good salad keeps my BG in perfect sync. You just keep doing what you are doing. | I'm glad to hear that about your salads and BG. The same holds true for me, but only if I'm feeling brave enough to deviate from bolusing the prescribed amount. With a salad like that if I take 25 units of Novolog I go hypo, sometimes dangerously so. 15 units seems to be the right dose for me. Quote:
Originally Posted by jillybean [color="Indigo"]heh, that's what I was thinking - having "MD" after their name STILL doesn't mean they're always right! | Going against what my Endo has told me to do is one of my biggest challenges. As I've stated elsewhere, I'm at a point where I know just enough to be potentially dangerous to myself. However, when I've done the research, asked questions; as I'm doing here, and experimented a little bit to confirm my suspicions about how things affect my BG, then I'm finding growing confidence in my ability to make my own decisions, even if they contradict my Endo or her PA. And yet I still feel the need to get the PA to agree with me. Why the heck did my mother have to instill in me that I should always do what my doctors tell me to do?
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Alright! I know I'm in there! If I don't come out, I'll have to come in after me!
Misdiagnosed T2 September 2009 with a BG of 1,240
Diagnosed T1 November 2009
A1c 9.4% November 2009
Novolog MDI
Lantus 25 morning / 30 evening
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11-06-2009, 07:45 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
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Originally Posted by Granny Shanny And especially when fried with peppers, beef strips, etc., and wrapped in a hot tortilla - à la fajitas . . .!!! | Granny ... STOP that!!!
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
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