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This is a discussion on Artificail Sweeteners Beware within the Carbohydrate and Calories forums, part of the Dieting and nutrition for diabetes category; I've never been a huge fan of artificial sweeteners. Frankly I can't stand the taste of diet soda's. So when ...

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    Artificail Sweeteners Beware

    I've never been a huge fan of artificial sweeteners. Frankly I can't stand the taste of diet soda's. So when I was diagnosed with the BIG D, I started (as I always do) researching the pro's and cons of sweeteners.
    I found the following article that makes it pretty clear that artificial sweeteners are not all that good for you.

    Thought it might be a good place for a thread and dialog to be started.

    Sugar substitutes and the potential danger of Splenda

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    As always with these kinds of things I am wondering who this doctor is. Does she have the research and real-life credentials to cite the "facts" as she sees them? Where are her citations for all these "facts" about how bad all artifical sweeteners are?

    Frankly the article sounds more like a subtle sales pitch for Stevia than it does a fair, balanced look at the different sweeteners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gary.keith View Post
    As always with these kinds of things I am wondering who this doctor is. Does she have the research and real-life credentials to cite the "facts" as she sees them? Where are her citations for all these "facts" about how bad all artifical sweeteners are?

    Frankly the article sounds more like a subtle sales pitch for Stevia than it does a fair, balanced look at the different sweeteners.
    How about the FDA. Now If you can have 18-19 cans of Equal or NutraSweet and they say only 6 cans for Splenda.. I"d say that would be a cause for concern...Since Stevia is a Natural product.. and the others are ARTIFICIAL.. I'd be more in favor of the Natural product..

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    smallest amount that might cause health concerns.

    Artificial sweetener ADI* Estimated ADI equivalent** OK for cooking?
    Aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal) 50 milligrams (mg) per kilogram (kg) 18 to 19 cans of diet cola No
    Saccharin (Sweet'N Low, SugarTwin) 5 mg per kg 9 to 12 packets of sweetener Yes
    Acesulfame K (Sunett, Sweet One) 15 mg per kg 30 to 32 cans of diet lemon-lime soda*** Yes
    Sucralose (Splenda) 5 mg per kg 6 cans of diet cola*** Yes

    *FDA-established acceptable daily intake (ADI) limit per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of body weight.
    **Product-consumption equivalent for a person weighing 150 pounds (68 kilograms).
    ***These products usually contain more than one type of sweetener
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    Splenda would have to be pretty bad for it to be worse for me than sugar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gary.keith View Post
    As always with these kinds of things I am wondering who this doctor is. Does she have the research and real-life credentials to cite the "facts" as she sees them? Where are her citations for all these "facts" about how bad all artifical sweeteners are?
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    I found it an interesting article... thanks for posting it.

    I was surprised to hear that sucralose came out of developing pesticides

    I'm not a fan of anything artificial anyway... even before my D I preferred butter to margarine, for example.

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    Thanks, Frank. However, I don't see anything there that qualifies her as someone who can speak with authority about such things. She's essentially a nurse with a masters degree. I'd feel much more comfortable about her statements if she linked to some legitimate sources, like fda.gov. Cause you know the vast majority of people are going to read her article and just blindly accept that everything she says is correct. That's really the only point I was trying to make.
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    Cyanide is a naturally occurring compound. Perhaps because it is natural it could be safely added to foods then?

    Natural does not equal safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    Cyanide is a naturally occurring compound. Perhaps because it is natural it could be safely added to foods then?

    Natural does not equal safe.
    Everything in moderation, eh? :P

    Don't you think you're being a bit overly dramatic? I think the argument is that un-processed things are typically more what our body is intended to deal with than the heavily processed things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    Natural does not equal safe.
    Obviously not, but while there seems to be so much contradictory evidence about what is safe to eat or not, I feel it prudent to fall back on real whole food which my grandparents would recognise as edible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    Cyanide is a naturally occurring compound. Perhaps because it is natural it could be safely added to foods then?

    Natural does not equal safe.
    While natural does not always mean better or safer, artificial does not always mean worse or more dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    Cyanide is a naturally occurring compound. Perhaps because it is natural it could be safely added to foods then?

    Natural does not equal safe.
    Well I guess when the FDA says

    Aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal) 18 to 19 cans of diet cola
    and

    Sucralose (Splenda) 6 cans of diet cola***

    That shouldn't be a cuase for alarm???

    there hs a HUGE difference between NATURAL POSION and a NATURAL NO CALORIE SUGAR STEVIA..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jer.lawrence View Post
    Everything in moderation, eh? :P

    Don't you think you're being a bit overly dramatic? I think the argument is that un-processed things are typically more what our body is intended to deal with than the heavily processed things.

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    Well I think that the often seen use of "this something is natural so it must be better" is terribly overused and overly dramatic as well as wrong. It is simply a tactic which doesn't do much to advance coherent argument or debate about some matter or evidence.

    I have no problem with people saying that they feel something is dangerous or whatever. I have a problem when they muddy the definitions into something that is not appropriate.
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    I just decided to avoid the whole thing and do away with sweeteners altogether. It's proven safe and once you get a taste for it you don't have to worry anymore

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    I don't, and won't use artificial sweeteners. Splenda is a chlorinated molecule, that's all I need to know about it until someone proves that it's safe. I use the precautionary principle when it comes to what I willingly put into my body.
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