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    So, you've arrived at diabetesforums.com and found all these Americans who love their insulin pumps. So no doubt you now want one, and you're probably fuming that the NHS hasn't offered you one. Obviously you've got loads of questions, so here's a few answers to the most common ones.

    What is an insulin pump?

    It's a small electronic device with some tubing that connects to your body. Throughout the day it releases a small, steady flow of insulin, which is your basal insulin. Then when you eat, you set it to give you a larger flow of insulin for a short period of time - this is your bolus insulin.

    That's a really basic description, ask a pumper for more details.

    I want one!

    Good for you. Go get one then.

    But I live in Britain! Because of our stupid backwards healthcare system I can't get one! Why can't we be more like the much better American system?

    WRONG WRONG WRONG

    There is absolutely nothing stopping you getting a pump if you live in the UK. Pumps are just as easily available as they are in the United States and your care team isn't going to stand in the way of you getting them.

    It is perfectly easy to get a pump in the UK. It's just that you won't get them free on the NHS unless you meet certain criteria. However, there's absolutely nothing stopping you getting a pump through private insurance such as BUPA, or even just buying it yourself. Which is exactly what they do in the States.

    Incidentally, don't forget that the 'backwards' health service we have in the UK gives you insulin pens (which is more than what most Americans get) and all your prescriptions for completely free.

    That's stupid. Shouldn't the NHS provide pumps for free?

    In an ideal world, yes. Unfortunately, pumps cost anything up to £4000, which is a lot to spend on treatment. That's what our American pumpers tend to have to pay too, so it's not as if we're being ripped off.

    So it's a lot of money, and the NHS (like anyone else) has to make sure it's getting value for money. Dishing out pumps to everyone with diabetes isn't good value and isn't necessarily helpful. For a start, a pump will be of no use to you unless you really know what you're doing when it comes to treating your diabetes. Otherwise it's rather like buying a jet fighter and then using it to taxi down the road to the shops. Sure, it'll work, but you could have acheived much the same results by walking.

    Secondly, the principles of the pump are pretty much the same as those for multiple daily injections (MDI). Sometimes you'll also hear MDI referred to as the '4-a-day' system or something similar. It's actually incorrect terminology - under MDI you inject when you eat, so that could mean 4 times a day, or it could mean 3, or 6...you get the idea. Anyway, MDI mimics the science behind pump treatment and as a result can acheive just as good results. Unless you have particularly pronounced Dawn Phenomenon or a massively fluctuating basal insulin requirement, you can get A1c in the 6s and even in the 5s. So from an NHS perspective, why spend at least £4000 on a treatment that they can do for under £100?

    However, the NHS does also provide free pumps.

    Say that again? I can get a free pump on the NHS? How?

    Individual NHS regions have their own criteria for pump selection. Informally though, if you fall into all of the following, you are a good candidate for a free pump:

    1) You are having serious control problems with MDI.
    You are having frequent hypos, swinging wildly between lows and highs, and/or are suffering from severe hypo unawareness.

    2)You are competant in the theory of treating your diabetes
    You are able to carb count and have been on a DAFNE course or similar. You also are able to provide regular, reliable BG results from testing at least 4x a day. You are able to correct high blood sugar with an appropriate amount of insulin and are able to identify your correction factor ie. by how many mmol/l 1u of insulin will lower you.

    3)You've tried all the other forms of MDI
    You're still having serious BG control problems and have tried Insulatard, Lantus and Levemir with no success. Or you've had some sort of problem with all 3 insulins, for instance too many hypos with Insulatard, an allergy to Lantus, and poor control with Levemir.

    If you meet all three of the above, you MAY be eligible for NHS provision of a pump. I'd also suggest that a good personal relationship with your care team will go a long way to swinging the decision in your favour. Your care team needs to be able to trust you completely - this means you have to work with them and be open about your treatment regime and lifestyle. Being aware of things like Dawn Phenomenon and the Somogyi Effect will help increase their respect for your understanding.

    Therefore it is perfectly possible to get a pump in the UK (if you can fund it yourself), and it is also possible to get one provided for you.

    REMEMBER: A pump is not a right, it's a privilege.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Pumping in the UK started by DeusXM View original post
    Comments 23 Comments
    1. PinkRose's Avatar
      Great article. Clears up the thorny question of which system better supports pump usage. Wow, getting your insulin pens for free in the UK? That is unbeatable. In Australia they are relatively cheap but not free. I hope the UK healthcare system holds strong over the difficult years ahead with govt cost cutting!
    1. SueM's Avatar
      Sorry DeusXM.
      Your article is not correct on many points
      Pumps top wack are £2,850 With consumables aprox £120/month.
      Pump is replaced every 4 years.
      You do not have to have tried Insulatard, Lantus and Levemir with no success.
      You can not just go out and buy a pump they are prescription only.
      So need a GP or consultant to OK a pump first.
      You do not have to have been on a DAFNE course or similar.
      All that is required is that you can carb count.

      No it is not easy to get a pump in the UK. If you are lucky to live in an area that is proactive then fine. Otherwise tuff luck it is a long hard fight with some people battling for years to get one.
      If people want the correct information on how to get a pump read and understand the NICE guidelines. Also contact INPUT for the correct information.
      INPUT can be found here INPUT | Raising awareness of diabetes technology in the UK
    1. DeusXM's Avatar
      To be honest this is an old article I wrote ages ago and I'm not sure why it's been reposted now.

      In any case, it's based on my personal experiences - I was told that because I was unable to get good control on any of the commonly prescribed basals, that alone made me a strong candidate for a pump. Similarly, I didn't say you had to have been on a DAFNE course, I just said that going on that course or something similar which demonstrates you understand carb counting would help strengthen your case.

      As for availability of pumps, I was under the impression that there weren't any restrictions on personally buying them, but that unless they were prescribed, the doctor wouldn't necessarily provide you with the support and prescriptions for the supplies required. I recall seeing adverts for pumps in Balance, complete with price listings, and I'm not quite sure why on earth a pump manufacturer would advertise prices in a consumer magazine if the purchasing decision rested entirely with the doctor and had nothing to do with the consumer. I would also imagine if you were using a private doctor rather than an NHS one, you would also be more likely to get the doctor's endorsement.

      However, the link you've posted goes into far more depth than my brief summary of my personal experiences and should be considered the gold standard for UK residents looking to get a pump.
    1. lorilei's Avatar
      as always deus..u provide great insight and have a skilled hand at laying out the basics...i know this is an older article..but i did get a chuckle at the american line..even some of us americans have a hard time getting funding for a pump and/or the necessities that go with it..i mean that in good fun!
    1. Stuboy's Avatar
      BUPA wont supply or even help pay for an insulin pump. They wont pay for treatment of Chronic illnesses on an on-going basis. I checked this avenue out when I wanted a pump. At least that's what they told me... and I have BUPA.

      I did manage to get one though, on the NHS, and there was surprisingly little resistance too.
    1. donpenven's Avatar
      There must be a better way. I've read several interesting comments from doctors here in the US. many are realizing the value of a low carb diet and moderate exercise. More than a year ago my wife was diagnosed as pre-diabetic with an A1chemoglobin test score of 6.8. She was told that 7.0 is chronic diabetes. Her most recent A1c test was 5.6 and over a year and a half she went from a size 16 dress down to a size 6. No drugs, and no insulin pump or needles. Of course this is an extraordinary event--or is it? Apparently others have had similar success. Has anyone in this forum been able to do this? Send me an email.
    1. Catherinetype1's Avatar
      I know some people are annoyed of having to pay a large amount for a pump, but it's definitely worth it and this is correct, it's a privilege. I controlled my diabetes ok with injections.
    1. DeusXM's Avatar
      There must be a better way. I've read several interesting comments from doctors here in the US. many are realizing the value of a low carb diet and moderate exercise.
      These things can be helpful in the management of diabetes and may even reverse pre-diabetes. However, Type 1 diabetes is a physiological condition where the immune system destroys beta cells and no insulin is produced at all. This cannot be reversed through diet and exercise, and so a T1 will always require some form of insulin replacement.
    1. Chanson13's Avatar
      Very interesting article. I know it's somewhat dated, however I would like to pint out that the criteria for getting a pump (and having it "covered" by private insurance is the US is essentially the same as the criteria you set forth in the UK. One difference being that, under my policy in the US there is a $3,000.00 annual limit for coverage of "durable medical equipment" the net result being that I personally have to pay for any amount above that for the initial acquisition. So, although it's covered, it's only about half of the actual price. From what i have read, I'm generally of the opinion that the UK health system works better than ours in the US. But there is always the "grass is greener on the other side of the fence," phenomenon.
    1. Sweetwi044's Avatar
      My pump cost £4,000 and I have the Accu Check Combo. I live in England and its a privilage to have one, it should be available to anyone who requires one. I hated injections and i was getting teased/bullied at secondary school- 6 months after diagnosis I get the item I fought for.
    1. ian2000611's Avatar
      I have had difficulty controlling diabetes all of my life (diagnosed at the age of 8 months old). After 28 years of poor control and many complications my diabetes became even more difficult to control. In November of 2010 my A1C was 15.9! At that time I was using a Lantus/Humalog system with coverage for highs and meals and testing my bg 8 times a day. In December I started on an insulin pump with a CGM (continuous glucose monitor). It records my bg every 5 minutes and has an alarm if I go to high or low. It also allows me to test less often, now I only test when I eat. The extra data from the CGM made in really easy to adjust the settings on my pump and respond to unexpected spikes in my bg. 2 months ago (Augest 2011) my A1C was down to 6.5!
    1. suney's Avatar
      Could you tell me more about humalog? Im trying to understand it better
    1. edwardnorton's Avatar
      My pump wasn't free for me either and I am in the good ol usa. I had to shell out $11,000 for the pump alone.
    1. poodlebone's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by edwardnorton View Post
      My pump wasn't free for me either and I am in the good ol usa. I had to shell out $11,000 for the pump alone.
      Ummmm, what thief did you buy that pump from? I believe the Minimed and Animas pumps retail for around $6,500 - $7,000 if you're paying out of pocket and buying directly from the pump companies. Even if you add on Minimed's CGMS kit, that only adds another $1,000 to the price. I hope you got several years worth of supplies for that $11,000.
    1. mahakavi's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by suney View Post
      Could you tell me more about humalog? Im trying to understand it better
      Humalog is a genetically engineered modified version of the natural insulin (which itself is genetically engineered and produced by bacterial or yeast fermentation---that is called Humulin---a product of Lilly). Humulin or your body's natural insulin enables to open up the gateway in your body cells to permit entry of glucose from the bloodstream (where the glucose converted from the food you eat first enters). Humalog is made by interchanging 2 amino acids in the original sequence of insulin, which was found to act faster than insulin in permitting glucose into the cells from the bloodstream. This is helpful when you eat a meal which elevates your blood sugar quickly (say 30 minutes to 2 hours). Usually Humalog (or its competing versions) is taken just before or soon after taking a meal which will enable to bring down the blood glucose levels to a control range (say 140 mg/dL, 2 hours after the meal). Humulin will do it over several hours. So if you want a tighter control use Humalog 15 minutes before a meal.
    1. dickengel's Avatar
      Dont use humalog in a pump - it only lasts 2 days and goes bad - I have CGM Data to proove - Novolog is certified for 6 days in a pump and much more consistent - I live in that Capatalist land of green and paid Zero for my pump and a further Zero for my supplies I do pay 50 dollars for 3 months of insulin! Oh I forgot about my CGM the Capatalist SOB's make me pay a further Zero for that and oh did I forget the supplies for the CGM - They are Zero cost too! So If you work here with good insurance or if you are poor and on government medicais - Health care is good - Its the people that are working with poor health care insurance that fall in the cracks Hopefully it will get better
    1. notme's Avatar
      Sorry dickengel, but I really have no idea where you are getting your information on humalog, but it is off base. I have been pumping with humalog for eleven years without problem. My cannulas are changed every three days and my reservoirs every five days. I also use CGMS and I see no decline in my numbers. My humalog does not degrade in the least. If you are prone to scarring with humalog, that could be the issue. But that will not be true for everyone, it certainly isn't for me.
    1. kristinajones's Avatar
      im on a insulin pump now but i am thinking of trading back to shots. truth be told i feel as though i am depending on my pump way to much and have lost much of the training i gained when i first got diabetes almost 11 years ago i am having trouble deciding what is best for me though because either way i have done immense damage to body over the years, is there a easier way to figuring all this out?
    1. alexified's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by kristinajones View Post
      im on a insulin pump now but i am thinking of trading back to shots. truth be told i feel as though i am depending on my pump way to much and have lost much of the training i gained when i first got diabetes almost 11 years ago i am having trouble deciding what is best for me though because either way i have done immense damage to body over the years, is there a easier way to figuring all this out?
      it sounds like you just need to have a more stringent blood glucose monitoring routine. my five year old is on shots because he was just diagnosed a few months ago and dealing with his diabetes and mine which is controlled using an insulin pump is miles of difference. we have such a difficult time keeping his in range and that is with 6 injections a day. now a days most endocrinologist are using the same type of carb counting and corrections of high bs while using injections as what us pump users are using. so it's just a matter of how you are administered your insulin, via pump or multiple shots. maybe it would help if you focused on getting your insulin to carb ratios and correction ratios down perfect and you may find that you like your pump again. when my son was just diagnosed i went back to injections for a few months so he could give me my shots after i gave him his, i had a shock when i went to my endocrinologist and found out my hgba1c was 10.5...ouch. it is so much easier to forget to take a shot than just press a button, and therefore so much easier to let your sugars go. let me know how it goes.
      lex
    1. beery's Avatar
      Sorry dickengel, but I really have no idea where you are getting your information on humalog, but it is off base. I have been pumping with humalog for eleven years without problem. My cannulas are changed every three days and my reservoirs every five days. I also use CGMS and I see no decline in my numbers. My humalog does not degrade in the least. If you are prone to scarring with humalog, that could be the issue. But that will not be true for everyone, it certainly isn't for me.