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Old 07-02-2006, 11:15 AM
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I am still new at the big D stuff, and I try to keep things simple. For example, low BS = zombie & coma = not cool. High BS = poison = also not cool. High BS messes with a lot of body parts including eyes and nerves. Why not the heart too?

There is something else Diabetics and Heart patients have in common. Both effect us in different ways. On this forum I keep seeing how what D does for one is different than what it does for another. That is why all the different treatments, etc. The same with Heart Attacks. When I had mine at 47 it was a very unique feeling. The only thing that comes close to describing it is if you take a BIG Gulp of real fizzy soda . . . except the pain did not move down towards the belly. I did not know what was going on, but I did know I was in deep Kimchee!

I don't want to go off-topic, but they do interact with each other. The real frustration for me is the Heart folks want my diet to restrict fats and meats. The Diabetes folks want me to forsake Carbs. . . What's left? I just do what I do and tick-off both sides.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:54 AM
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Well, thanks Penny. My Dad was a Good Guy, but it was his time I guess.

I'll be writing all those symptoms down. Sure is different than what we
were taught to expect a few yrs. ago. Glad you're alive though.
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Old 07-02-2006, 12:02 PM
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don't want to go off-topic, but they do interact with each other. The real frustration for me is the Heart folks want my diet to restrict fats and meats. The Diabetes folks want me to forsake Carbs. . . What's left? I just do what I do and tick-off both sides.
I have that problem, too. My heart doctor wanted me to restrict water to1 quart a day. I tried, then when I got bladder cancer, the first thing I was told was to drink as much water as I could hold. Also the diabetic doctor said it was important for me to drink lots of water. Then the heart doctor said to cut out most eggs and meat. I became anemic, and was told to try hard to eat eggs and at least two meat servings a day. Then I was told to restrict carbs, after my heart doctor got diabetes. But the proctologist (butt doctor if the spelling isn't right) told me to cut the meat and eat lots of bananas and fruit. I figured I can safely munch on the grass in my yard, and won't need to cut it anymore.
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Old 07-02-2006, 12:14 PM
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I am still new at the big D stuff, and I try to keep things simple. For example, low BS = zombie & coma = not cool. High BS = poison = also not cool. High BS messes with a lot of body parts including eyes and nerves. Why not the heart too?
There is something else Diabetics and Heart patients have in common. Both effect us in different ways. On this forum I keep seeing how what D does for one is different than what it does for another. That is why all the different treatments, etc. The same with Heart Attacks. When I had mine at 47 it was a very unique feeling. The only thing that comes close to describing it is if you take a BIG Gulp of real fizzy soda . . . except the pain did not move down towards the belly. I did not know what was going on, but I did know I was in deep Kimchee!
I don't want to go off-topic, but they do interact with each other. The real frustration for me is the Heart folks want my diet to restrict fats and meats. The Diabetes folks want me to forsake Carbs. . . What's left? I just do what I do and tick-off both sides.
You make a good point Petruchio, keep it basic so as not to clutter up the brain. Yes, high sugars wreck most of your body like an acid. But you
can help yourself alot and you know how. Ya, funny how Diabetes and Heart Attacks symptoms effect People differently alright.
Geez, you had a heart attack also? And your symptom is different too. Good Heavens. Of course, you are a Man, so I probably won't get that symptom. Who knows?

Diet-wise....have you thought about lettuce and hold the dressing? Well,
surprise them and keep your sugars in decent range. Sounds good to me.
Your lucky to still be standing.
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Actually, we're all living on borrowed time. I got run over by a tank when I was 19 (yes, I'm probably the only person you'll ever hear say that), and I wasn't supposed to live. Well, that was 35 years ago and I've done a **** of a lot of living since then, so it all comes down to making the most of what we have.

Of course, I make some very odd noises when I walk... :0
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Old 07-03-2006, 10:50 AM
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Wow!

Penny (all),

I am still reading through this thread, but wow! You actually died and you're back! You can also honestly use one of my favorite movie quotes of all time: "I've been dead before..."

Incredible stuff. I'll be back, have another page to read...
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:05 AM
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Isn't the first symptom of a heart attack typically death?

Penny, do you have a defibrolator in your house?
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:18 AM
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Isn't the first symptom of a heart attack typically death?

Penny, do you have a defibrolator in your house?
No defibrolator. No one even knows why I had a heart attack. I have had every test they can think of, they even tried to simulate a heart attack to see if they could figure out what happened. They (the doctors) got scared, and stopped it. Everyone asks me if I "saw the light"....I saw nothing. One minute I was looking at a bunch of medical people, then I opened my eyes and saw my ex son-in-law standing at the foot of my bed, this was a day or two later. Now some people won't want to hear this, but I do know something happened, because I knew I was spared for something. I knew there was something/somethings I was meant to do. Since then a couple of things have happened that made me think I was done, but I don't think I am.
I love science fiction, but no way do I believe in any of it, but I do believe I have some kind of mission in life and that is why I was spared twice.
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:56 AM
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No defibrolator. No one even knows why I had a heart attack. I have had every test they can think of, they even tried to simulate a heart attack to see if they could figure out what happened. They (the doctors) got scared, and stopped it. Everyone asks me if I "saw the light"....I saw nothing. One minute I was looking at a bunch of medical people, then I opened my eyes and saw my ex son-in-law standing at the foot of my bed, this was a day or two later. Now some people won't want to hear this, but I do know something happened, because I knew I was spared for something. I knew there was something/somethings I was meant to do. Since then a couple of things have happened that made me think I was done, but I don't think I am.
I love science fiction, but no way do I believe in any of it, but I do believe I have some kind of mission in life and that is why I was spared twice.
Psssst...Hey, wanna go to Afghanistan with me and look for a certain terrorist?

Okay, I'm done poking a little fun at this serious topic.
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:08 PM
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Psssst...Hey, wanna go to Afghanistan with me and look for a certain terrorist?

Okay, I'm done poking a little fun at this serious topic.
That's the only way I can deal with it! I think I posted it before, but after the heart things, and then cancer, I wrote a list of 100 things I want to do before I die. One of them, I dyed my quickly thinning dark brown hair, bright red. Some people don't like it because I makes jokes, but it makes things easier....if I have to go out, I want to go out laughing. I don't look good in tent dresses (is it a Buruka?), or I would go with you, Duck.
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Diet-wise....have you thought about lettuce and hold the dressing?
You MUST try fresh lemon juice instead of the usual store bought dressing...!!! Squeeze a lemon over your salad. Excellent!

I don't bother making a salad anymore. I would always end up with too much leftovers and they would sit forever in the fridge. What I do now is put a few leaves of lettuce on the side of every plates. I add cucumber slices, diced tomatoes, a bit of green onions, whatever I have in the fridge to make it short, add herbs... and squeeze a fresh lemon on top of everything! So it's one portion for everyone and no leftovers. It's healthy too.
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:42 AM
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MMmmmm....that sounds like a good alternative to a big bowl of
salad. I have put a couple of pieces of romaine lettuce and slices
of cucumbers on it with the rest of the meal but didn't try the lemon
juice. Thanks.
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