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07-24-2006, 08:43 AM
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| | | Where did D come from? Just wondering what everyone's take on this is . . .
Did diabetes originate because of all the mass consumption of processed food and sugar? Our ancestors typically ate mostly meat, vegetables, and fruit. So did human's pancreases' functions deteriorate due to food choices? And then become part of our genes somehow?
Or has diabetes always been around but there was no way to know/treat due to lack of technology and whatnot?
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Correctly diagnosed April 2006 as Type 2
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Tried: Novolog, Novolog 70/30, Lantus, Humalog, Humilin L and many many others
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07-24-2006, 08:51 AM
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| | | I say the second one. And they couldn't determine if a person had diabetes back then so it was just like a person died of odd reasons. 200 years ago if you lived more than a week as a type 1, you were lucky, heck, you could say that applies to even 100 years ago.
What originally caused it we will probably never know. It's just like what originally caused AIDS? Another we will most likely never know. Somehow some genes got manipulated and then just continued down the tree of life.
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07-24-2006, 09:13 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: West Coast
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| | | The difference with AIDS and Diabetes is that they know when AIDS Started and I believe they understand the origin of it.
Diabetes has been reported for centuries, they say. | 
07-24-2006, 09:26 AM
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| | | T1 diabetes is a direct result of a faulty geneotype, possibly combined with an infection. That faulty genotype probably came from something as simple as a random genetic mutation. Diabetes has been known of (at least, symptomatically) since at least the time of the ancient Egyptians - it's by no means a 'modern' condition and it's theorised that T1 actually gave some of our ancestors a genetic advantage in the ice ages. | 
07-24-2006, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DeusXM it's by no means a 'modern' condition and it's theorised that T1 actually gave some of our ancestors a genetic advantage in the ice ages. | How did it give them an advantage? | 
07-24-2006, 12:24 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Originally Posted by BriOnH How did it give them an advantage? | Here is an explanation of the theory. I for one have a hard time buying it.
Mark
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07-24-2006, 12:51 PM
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| | | That's so weird.
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Diagnosed July 1997 as Type 1
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Tried: Novolog, Novolog 70/30, Lantus, Humalog, Humilin L and many many others
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07-24-2006, 12:54 PM
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| | | I recall reading that in older times, perhaps the time when the Greeks were at their peak, it was believed that people developed diabetes because they loved themselves too much. The disease has been around a long time.
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07-24-2006, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mark-TN | Interesting hypothesis.... thanks for the link Mark | 
07-24-2006, 08:06 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kent, WA USA
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| | I did a little Googling and found this: http://www.diabetes.ca/Section_About/timeline.asp
Interesting read.  It's even more interesting because of the whole "islets of Langerhans". My 2 year old has Langerhans' Cell Histiocytosis, which symptoms include diabetes insipidus...I never knew that. LOL | 
07-24-2006, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mark-TN | Man!
What can we come up with so we can be published for our crazy idea?
Signed,
JasonJayhawk, Ph.Duck., Quack Quack. | 
07-25-2006, 05:58 AM
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| | | In the "ancient times" Diabetes was known as the Pissing Evil. For obvious reasons......... |  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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