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Old 11-03-2006, 06:51 AM
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Question Is This Just a Coincidence?

I'm curious to have some more people weigh in on something I heard yesterday.

My friend knows a guy who became diabetic (Type 1) a number of years ago. The odd thing is, he and 2 other guys who were both in the same university class (sounds like it was a pretty small class) all were diagnosed with Type 1 within a short period of time (I believe it was all within a number of months of one another).

I've had diabetes since I was 3, so I haven't studied diabetes onset much, but is this purely a coincidence? Three young men in the same class all Type 1 within a short amount of time seems very odd.

Thoughts?
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:09 AM
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I'm curious to have some more people weigh in on something I heard yesterday.

My friend knows a guy who became diabetic (Type 1) a number of years ago. The odd thing is, he and 2 other guys who were both in the same university class (sounds like it was a pretty small class) all were diagnosed with Type 1 within a short period of time (I believe it was all within a number of months of one another).

I've had diabetes since I was 3, so I haven't studied diabetes onset much, but is this purely a coincidence? Three young men in the same class all Type 1 within a short amount of time seems very odd.

Thoughts?
Yes and no.

The most reasonable hypothesis about the development of Type 1 diabetes is that it's an autoimmune response in the wake of a virus. The immune system's development of immunity to a certain kind of virus results in it mistakenly attacking the beta cells of the pancreas, and the result is type 1 diabetes.

So you end up with 3 guys in a small class who all become Type 1's within a short time of one another. It is reasonable to conjecture that they all caught the same virus and had similar autoimmune responses.
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I'd say coincidence.
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:27 AM
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Myth busted? Plausable? Or comfirmed?

I'd say plausable since we really have no idea what 100% causes diabetes. We know the "enemy" cells that attack the good cells, but we don't know how they get in the body yet.
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:56 AM
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Myth busted? Plausable? Or comfirmed?

I'd say plausable since we really have no idea what 100% causes diabetes. We know the "enemy" cells that attack the good cells, but we don't know how they get in the body yet.
I like the "plausible" conclusion. Thanks Jamie/Adam.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:07 AM
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I like the "plausible" conclusion. Thanks Jamie/Adam.
Mythbusters on Discovery Channel. But you probably don't get that up there.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:53 AM
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hmmmm weird to say the least.

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Mythbusters on Discovery Channel. But you probably don't get that up there.
My son LOVES that show!
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:37 AM
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Mythbusters on Discovery Channel. But you probably don't get that up there.
Of course I get Mythbusters! Why do you think I called you Jamie/Adam?
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:49 AM
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Of course I get Mythbusters! Why do you think I called you Jamie/Adam?
Little slow today, lol. Maybe we could have mythbusters test this theory of air transmitted diabetes virus. Wait, no explosions or fire involved, so they won't test it. LOL
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Little slow today, lol. Maybe we could have mythbusters test this theory of air transmitted diabetes virus. Wait, no explosions or fire involved, so they won't test it. LOL
When I wrote it, I thought, "If it's a coincidence that he wrote it like that and he doesn't actually know about Mythbusters, this is going to flop."

Well.....it flopped anyway.
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My then-neighbor, age 31, a Viet Nam vet, was dx'd the same time I was. I was also 31 and a VN vet. I applied for VA benefits and was turned down because I'm not T2. aaargh! The government is so screwy! They cover vets with T2 but not T1.

Also, at one time in my court, 5 of us were diabetics. After one died and the other moved, there are 3 of us.
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I also say "plausible". I was diagnosed in 1986. On my street, in a two year period(a very small block) there were one case of type one diabetes (me) two cases of bone cancer, one case of ovarian cancer (she died) one miscarraige, one case of lupus, one case of emphalicil (sp)(baby born with intestines outside of the body) one placenta previa (maybe just a coincedence) and one baby born at eight months dead (unexplained). Many people got sick after they moved away with cancer or some immune deficiancy disorder. There is a huge study now going on in the area because of the high rate of cancer. I thank god it was me that became ill and not one of my children, but I will always worry.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:34 PM
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I also say "plausible". I was diagnosed in 1986. On my street, in a two year period(a very small block) there were one case of type one diabetes (me) two cases of bone cancer, one case of ovarian cancer (she died) one miscarraige, one case of lupus, one case of emphalicil (sp)(baby born with intestines outside of the body) one placenta previa (maybe just a coincedence) and one baby born at eight months dead (unexplained). Many people got sick after they moved away with cancer or some immune deficiancy disorder. There is a huge study now going on in the area because of the high rate of cancer. I thank god it was me that became ill and not one of my children, but I will always worry.
Oh my goodness! That's so scary! Do poeple still live there?
Do you still live there?
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Old 11-03-2006, 01:27 PM
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Oh heck no!!! We moved out three years later. However, there are people still living there and they decided to do the study after a large organization of people in the area made major complaints. The study is still under way. It was a very big argricuture area and there were lots of chemicals in the ground. I would not be surprised if it turned out to be a ground water situation.
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studies I've read and I can't for the life of me find a link to one (i'llpost when i find it) indicate taht type 1 tends to be diagnosed most commonly around ages 5. 10 and 20, probably due to stress/hormonal changes/growth spurts and like others have indicated increased contact with viral/environmental triggers at those ages.
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