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Old 11-17-2006, 07:25 AM
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Oral thrush

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At the moment I think I've got a case of oral thrush, which isn't hugely surprising since I seem to recurrently get fungal infections and the last week or so has seen me have some real problems keeping my BG under control.

Anyway, I've been to the doctor and been prescribed some Daktarin oral gel, and I'm just wondering if any of you guys have some tips on dealing with this problem. At the moment I'm applying the gel to the translucent patches I have on the inside of my cheeks, but the gel is pretty tasty and whenever I put it in, my mouth starts to water quite a bit so I'm having real trouble not swallowing. I'm not having to take massive swallows when I do this but I'm just worried to what extent I'm compromising the effectiveness of the gel.

Something else I've done is start drinking a pre- and pro-biotic yoghurt in the morning too since I've been informed that lactobacillus can help check fungal growth - is this right or am I wasting my money.

Thirdly, if anyone else has been on this sort of gel before...something I've noticed since I started using it is that it's made my tongue go whiter. Maybe it's just I'm now paying slightly more attention to my mouth but I'm convinced that since I started attacking the fungus, it's made it flare up on my tongue. I'm now putting gel on my tongue too but I'm also having the same tasty swallow problem - is a flare-up on the tongue reasonably normal once treatment's began?

Fourthly...the patches I have on my cheek do sorta scrape off - am I helping or hindering if I scrape off the 'excess' and then apply the gel?

Fifthly....ooo, now this one's embarrassing. If you're a child, please scroll down to the next paragraph. Now, obviously I'm aware that thrush, as well as being an oral problem, can also be a vaginal problem. If I am giving oral sex to a woman, what are the risks of me passing on thrush to her?


Ok, you can look back now. Finally....how long does it usually take to shift this sort of thing once you've started treatment?
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:33 AM
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Fifthly....ooo, now this one's embarrassing. If you're a child, please scroll down to the next paragraph. Now, obviously I'm aware that thrush, as well as being an oral problem, can also be a vaginal problem. If I am giving oral sex to a woman, what are the risks of me passing on thrush to her?
I think....THINK....that you can give her a yeast infection. But if someone out there can correct me, please be my guest.

Personally, if my hubby had thrush, I'd want to put a "hold" on that activity. But that's just cautious me speaking.
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:36 AM
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Certain medications can cause Thrush to appear and/or reappear.

You might want to check the source.
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:45 AM
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:46 AM
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Fungal problems can be passed back and forth...you're right on that one. Also, the yogurt will help, just make sure you're getting yogurt that has the active cultures in it. It usually says if it does on the label. I don't know about the UK, but over here they actually sell psuedo yogurt with no active cultures.
Now this is probably old school, but when my kids were little and got thrush I was told to either wipe out the mouth gently with a warm cloth, or rinse with water after they ate or drank anything that had sugar. Today I would translate that into anything with carbs. The fungus feeds on sweet stuff.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:39 AM
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Sorry to hear you are having this problem Deus. I've had very good luck with acidophius tablets. I think they worked much better than yogurt.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:19 AM
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My youngest would get oral thrush alot until we figured out the problem. Every time he took antibiotics for something, it would develop. He's allergic to alot of medications, and I don't like stuffing him full of drugs anyway. So, instead, the doctor had him take garlic capsules and rinse with saltwater.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:46 AM
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Yogurt is definitely good. Sometimes I buy the Trader Joe's type acidophilus tablets (because they're active) and let them dissolve in my mouth.

The only thing that's really worked well consistently for me is this "Elixir" that they usually give to children. Many pharmacies have formulations of it, but they're all called different things - the doctor should know. Sometimes it's "miracle mouthwash." It has dexamethasone; diphenhydramine; nystatin; tetracycline. I've had that and I've had the "adult" treatment which is this absolutely horrible-tasting antifungal tablet that you put in your mouth, but you can't swallow any of it or you get terrible diarrhea. Trust me, you want the children's treatment! (But don't swallow that, either). Finally, sometimes they prescribe diflucan and it works, but for me it's an ongoing problem (because of my medication) so I prefer having the mouthwash. It's up to you, I guess.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:49 AM
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Yes, that's it, have a good laugh.
Fifthly....ooo, now this one's embarrassing. If you're a child, please scroll down to the next paragraph. Now, obviously I'm aware that thrush, as well as being an oral problem, can also be a vaginal problem. If I am giving oral sex to a woman, what are the risks of me passing on thrush to her?
Laura says 99%... (not from previous experience, but apparently her sister gets it all the time (caused by stress))
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:54 AM
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Fifthly....ooo, now this one's embarrassing. If you're a child, please scroll down to the next paragraph. Now, obviously I'm aware that thrush, as well as being an oral problem, can also be a vaginal problem. If I am giving oral sex to a woman, what are the risks of me passing on thrush to her?
Sorry, I missed this the first time. Yes, thrush or yeast is transmittable. It can also be passed from women to men (!) although in men the symptoms can be misleading since they are a little different in a, em, drier environment.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:56 AM
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Deus,
I've actually got a horribly scortching case of Oral Thrush, myself. In addition to this, I also have strept throat. So I'm on Zythromicin and they put me on 3 times the dose of diflucan that they give to women for a vaginal yeast infection. My mouth is sore and my tongue has been completely covered with the White Carpet of Doom. I was taking the mouth wash (Duke's Miracle Mouthwash) about a month ago for something else and I think it's what wound up giving me the imbalance.

Go with the pro-biotic or just eat a lot of active culture yogurt, and also use plenty of mouthwash or saltwater rinse and clean your mouth as often as possible.
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:17 AM
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Deus,
If what you are taking doesn't work go back to your GP and ask for some nystan mouth wash a friend of mine had a dreadful case of oral thrush after he was given loads of IV antibiotics when he had pneumonia, the nystan cleared it up very quickly.
Also try using a salt mouth wash. Gentin violet works wonders too but slight problem you turn violet where the stuff touches
Avoid all yeast products and sugary food as yeast will feed on them.
Lastly but not least tell your blood sugars to behave
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:41 AM
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I've had problems with thrush and yeast infections in the past when my bg was out of control...
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Old 11-17-2006, 12:49 PM
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I help women in La Leche League all the time, who have problems with oral thrush in their babies, as well as on the mom's nipples. We tell them to use gentian violet all the time. It usually takes three days to clear up with that. Since, I'm assuming, that you're not breastfed anymore, your mom won't need to put the stuff on herself.

Yes you can pass it on to a woman during certain activities... and remember as I said above, you can pass it on to her nipples as well. So, be careful with that.
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Old 11-17-2006, 12:52 PM
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ooo, now this one's embarrassing. If you're a child, please scroll down to the next paragraph. Now, obviously I'm aware that thrush, as well as being an oral problem, can also be a vaginal problem.
Know that you can give it... and you can catch it too. Work both ways!

I know there is a tablet women can take for thrush. Highly efficient! Takes a day and you're thrush free. Would that work for your problem too? You might want to ask your pharmacist.
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