[mav]

I'm not being facetious but you could simply take a) no insulin, b) too much insulin and simply do terminal damage to yourself. That way you'll save the agony. I personally believe there are also more humane methods of suicide.

Hi

I am Collettes husband, I would like to say what a helpfull and freindly bunch you lot are BUT I WONT

Collette has been suffering from depression for sometime now and has used these boards to try help fight with some of the isues she has.

Thanks partly due to the above quote Collette attempted an insulin overdose last night. Luckily I caught her, in an absolutely hysterical state and generally in a right mess.

Luckily we got her to hospital and have been able to "this time" save her life.

telling someone to basically go ahead and do it is NOT the answer, for ***edited for content*** sake THINK about what you are saying before you type anything up, you just dont know what state that person is in, most of you have probably never met and I know this to be the case for my wife.

Someone is VERY lucky they are out of my reach. otherwise they would be eating hospital food themselves right about now.

One VERY ***edited for content*** off and disgusted husband.

[DeusXM]

Mav,

As the only moderator currently logged in, I guess it is my duty to be the first to respond in an appropriate manner. Since this topic is a very serious one, I have chosen to deal with this in a separate thread in its own right. I hope you understand.

Obviously, there is absolutely nothing I can say to indeed remedy this situation, but I offer an unreserved apology for this particuar member's conduct, and they will be dealt with as best we can. I also offer my own condolences and wish Collette a speedy and safe recovery. The offending post has also been terminated.

I realise this must all sound very hollow to you, and for that I am sorry.

As a forum which is open to the public, the majority of our advice is provided on an amateur basis, although we do have qualified clinicians who post here too. Even so, we are simply not qualified to comment on individual cases, as you yourself have pointed out. This is the great danger with a forum such as ours, and the internet as a whole. However, this is still no excuse for what has been said on here.

Therefore whilst the vast majority of us do try to support those who come here, those of us who do geniunely want to help can only do so up to a point. In these circumstances, you and your wife may benefit greatly from a support group closer to home. Depression Alliance is probably your best port of call in this instance, since it has a directory of local support groups which will be able to help Collette far more than we ever could.

Once again I apologise for what has happened and I also apologise if you find anything in this response offensive - this is certainly not my intention.

Thank you.

[damianc]

I'm genuinely sorry I was unable to word this in the way I would have wished. It was clear that Collete was at least upset by her posting, but I wasn't sure whether this was an aggressive outburst or a provocative cry for help. I wrote what I did in the belief a reply would be forthcoming either dismissing me, or explaining further why she would want to harm herself in the long term. As you can imagine I in no way wish to encourage self harm. As a sufferer of clinical depression for over 20 years I understand the desperate straits one can get oneself into and how hard it is to ask for help.
I will not say too much more on the matter in case I simply worsen it, other than to say again my intentions were not to cause harm

Damian

[Harold]

Mav, I am sorry to hear that Collette tried this and would also like to offer my condolenses and wish her a speedy recovery. Depression associated with diabetes happens to be very common, but for most people it does not become serious in that they come to terms with it on their own. For those that don't it becomes very serious. Usually there are also other problems contributing to the severity of the depression. These other problems may range from an imbalance in the bodies chemistry to ones situation in life or in many cases a combination of both. Most of the time in severe cases a point is reached where the depression itself will cause the imbalence. On a board or in a forum the best we can do is ask someone to seek help. I know my posting this does not help Collette right now, but it may help someone else and maybe help others to be more understanding. I am very sad for her and for you and hope you the Best.

[sand-not-oil]

I am sorry to hear about your wife, but I would like to add that I have been having a few problems lately myself and I have received nothing but kind words and support from people on this forum, please don't judge the whole for a few remarks from one.

[Dewey]

Mav,

I'm very sorry to hear about your wife. As Deus stated, our forum is simply to offer ideas (with the exception of the one listed above) and lend an ear when people need to vent or express frustrations about their disease. It should Never be used for professional advice.

We all could not have forseen what Collette would do, but we are deeply sorry that you are going through this. We hope and pray that she will heal quickly and receive help for her depression. Again, we are truly sorry.

[SunniD]

Mav, am so sorry to hear about your wife. May God speed her recovery.

At some point of this disease, depression does seem to follow.
Professional advice is best to seek as well as medications as others have said.

I chat with a little 13 yr.old diabetic who's tried to commit suicide 3 x . I've made sure she seeks professional counselling for
those problems but am always wondering if something I say
will be construed wrong. I have gotten her on MSN asking
what do I do if I took this drug. It's a stressful situation
to deal with and rather hard when one doesn't know
a name or phone number also. I have a hard time dealing
with one so young who wants to take her own life. It takes
a lot out of a person but you can make progress in time
and with the help of professionals and meds.

Please wish Collette all the best and am sending my kindest
regards to her.

SunniD

[lgvincent]

I'm so very sorry to hear this. I didn't realize she was suffering from such an intense depression. Sadly, I guess I've become too involved with my own depression to be able to see this in others. I hope she'll be okay.

[HeatherP]

Mav, I'm so sorry to hear about Collette. I PM w/ her from time to time and I know she's been having a very difficult time of it. As others have said, please don't allow one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch. Recently we have gotten a few new members that do not seem to be able to understand others and refuse to consider other possibilites w/o an argument errupting.

I truly hope that she will recover from this w/o after effects, and continue to seek the appropriate help to change her life. She has mentioned how supportive and concerned you are and I am so glad that she has such a good man.

Without going into personal details, I know that Diabetes and depression are not the only things affecting her, but I think she came here looking to connect w/ other people that could understand at least one aspect of what she's dealing with.

I hope that we will see you or her soon, letting us know that she's okay, and that she is working towards becoming healthier in all aspects.

Best wishes,
HeatherP

[rzrbks]

Mav,

I too have PMed with Collette at some length and hope things are going to turn around and please don't let the PIECE OF $#!^

Incredibly Worthless Excuse for a human being taint your belief that almost all of the people here want nothing but for Collete to come out and be stronger and better than before.

Depression, like all diseases, must be dealt with one step at a time. And from all the things she's told me about you, I know that you'll be there helping each step of the way.

We are praying for the both of you.

[soremom]

I believe that is why my husband doesn't like me to go to these sites, he is afraid I will hear something and take it literally.

I am so sorry what happened to your wife. When I read her post and the offensive reply, I could not believe that someone could be so mean, that is the only word that comes to mind.

I hope she recovers soon and the Drs. are able to help. I also hope that she does come back here. Being new myself I have found almost everyone is extremely nice and ver supportive. Even if it is an ear to listen.

I hope she doesn't let one bad egg spoil what might be some time in here for her to understand she is not alone. No one can feel what someone else does, but we can have a better understanding.

Let her know we are thinking of her and feel truley sorry for one bad egg.

Kim

[Willow]

Best wishes Collette

x

[am1977]

MAV-

I am so sorry that this happened, but I can definitely relate. I get depressed about Diabetes too, I'm sure we all do at times. I know how difficult it is and how overwhelming, frustrating, and aggravating it is. It is a lot to deal with in life, w/o having to deal with the many other things life throws at us. However, it is not worth throwing everything away because of it

I hope you will express our feelings of concern to Collette. We all want for her to be better and hope that she will be back on the forums soon. I know it's not that easy, but we hope she will be feeling better emotionally very, very soon. Please do update us on how she is doing. I have to say that this forum has helped me in ways I can't even express, and almost everyone here is genuine, caring, and supportive. We do try to help each other here and hope we can do that for Collette.

Andrea

[mav]

Thank you for your kind support (although I didnt post on here with that intention)
Collette is doing ok for the moment, how long for I really dont know.
She is really going through **** at the moment and I cant say I finding it particularly easy to deal with, this has taken its toll on me also.
All I want is my loving wife back to normal, I know its going to be a tough haul but I will be with her every step of the way. No one, but NO-ONE gets between me and Collette. I love her so much and its agony to see her suffering like this, I feel really helpless, as though just being there for her simply isnt enough and the frustration is enourmous.
It was Collette who confided in me and showed me where one of the final straw triggers came from which is how I came to be here.
I was aware she went on here as she used the boards to help try and gain some sort of control over that part of her life. There are other serious issues that need to be dealt with surrounding the depression but we will go through that together.

How someone can be so low as to make someone feel so worthless and resulting in the action that Collette took I dont know.

My message to that person is, Its not just one person you are hurting, its two. How would you like it if someone made you lose your partner because of something you said? I hope it stays on your concience (if you have one that is) for a very long time to come.

Im going to sign off for now as im getting wound up again.

Thanks again for your support.

[HeatherP]

Just wanted everyone to know that Collette PM'd me a while ago (today) to let me know she's okay.

I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say, Collette we hope to see you often and offer any and all support we can! We miss you!! (and we're sorry that $^^& got to you!)