[gobbly2100]

So after my endless months of really trying to take care of myself due to the news about my eyes showing the starting signs of diabetes damage which thank God is reversable, I have found it **** easy to keep my BS under 10 most of the time depending on if I feel like pigging out or not.

Anyway, I am on 2 shots a day of Humalog Mix25 and I take 50 Units in the morning and 48 units in the evening.

My life style before I share my diet is office work which means I sit down alot but anyway here is my average day.

MORNING: I wake up anytime between 7am and 10:30am usually and check BS which is usually anything between 4 and 8, I have around 50 - 90 carbs, I know that is a big variation but that works fine as you will see.

MID-MORNING: I will have a cup of tea or maybe two with one sugar in each but I will only have one tea if I had alot for breakfast.

LUNCH: I have a new addiction to noodles which I cook, depending on which noodles I have these will mount to between 20 and 30 carbs and a packet of crisps (potato chips) plus maybe another cup of tea with one sugar.

MID-AFTERNOON: I will maybe have some fruit or something fairly healthy, something between 15 and 25 carbs but it depends on my lunch really.

DINNER: Dinner really is whatever I feel like, most meals I like seem to come to around 90 to 120 carbs and maybe a desert if I want.

MID-EVENING: Tea and biscuits seems to be what I go for at the moment, 2 rich tea biscuits with teas is nice.

BEFORE BED: I find that before bed is always different, I go by whatever my BS is to weather I want to have anything more and if I wannt keep below 10 then I have to really think, often I find that my BS is very similar when I wake up as it was when I went to bed.


I hope this is useful to someone, please note that I do have some lows and sometimes I do see a high, the point here is to show how easy it is to keep below 10 all the time if I wanted.

I sometimes lift weights and do abit of walking, I am actually having a low right now lol (2.8) so I need to go have a browse through the snack draw.

If I can help anyone finding it hard to get control I would love to speak to you.

One other point I want to point out is that I do all of this on 2 shots a day, I was told last month that my eyes are almost fully cleard up due to my control so it has to be good what I have done.

Anyway I really need to go now before I headbutt my keyboard because of this low.

Catch you later all!

[ant hill]

I would look at your baseal insulin and increse it up slowly and test test test. This will bring down the average BG to a resonable level.

[gobbly2100]

My HBA1C last time was 6.3, my goal I set is to stay under 10 because it is realistic, I really don't want to be an obsessed freak with control, life is about making the most of things and if I increase my insulin I will start having more lows and I have maybe one a day sometimes, because I am on a mix remember I can't adjust it like you are suggesting.

Thanks for the advice but I really am not looking for any now.

[Cyborg]

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

So after my endless months of really trying to take care of myself due to the news about my eyes showing the starting signs of diabetes damage which thank God is reversible, I have found it **** easy to keep my BS under 10 most of the time depending on if I feel like pigging out or not.

Anyway, I am on 2 shots a day of Humalog Mix25 and I take 50 Units in the morning and 48 units in the evening.

My life style before I share my diet is office work which means I sit down alot but anyway here is my average day.

MORNING: I wake up anytime between 7am and 10:30am usually and check BS which is usually anything between 4 and 8, I have around 50 - 90 carbs, I know that is a big variation but that works fine as you will see.

Too many carbs for breakfast...

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

MID-MORNING: I will have a cup of tea or maybe two with one sugar in each but I will only have one tea if I had alot for breakfast.

Don't eat sugar or salt...

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

LUNCH: I have a new addiction to noodles which I cook, depending on which noodles I have these will mount to between 20 and 30 carbs and a packet of crisps (potato chips) plus maybe another cup of tea with one sugar.

Dump the chips and try ****ake noodles if you must have noodles.

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

MID-AFTERNOON: I will maybe have some fruit or something fairly healthy, something between 15 and 25 carbs but it depends on my lunch really.

Avoid most fruits until you get control of your bg and can determine how different fruits affect your bg.

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

DINNER: Dinner really is whatever I feel like, most meals I like seem to come to around 90 to 120 carbs and maybe a desert if I want.

MID-EVENING: Tea and biscuits seems to be what I go for at the moment, 2 rich tea biscuits with teas is nice.

BEFORE BED: I find that before bed is always different, I go by whatever my BS is to weather I want to have anything more and if I wannt keep below 10 then I have to really think, often I find that my BS is very similar when I wake up as it was when I went to bed.

As a diabetic, you cannot eat whatever you want, whenever you, want unless you are using insulin. If using insulin, be prepared to gain weight if your are not counting carbs and not compensating with an exercise routine...

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

I hope this is useful to someone, please note that I do have some lows and sometimes I do see a high, the point here is to show how easy it is to keep below 10 all the time if I wanted.

IMO, 10 is way too high of a target....

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

I sometimes lift weights and do abit of walking, I am actually having a low right now lol (2.8) so I need to go have a browse through the snack draw.

If I can help anyone finding it hard to get control I would love to speak to you.

Figure out your Carb:BG ratio, then use glucose tabs to treat lows, based on the bg value. This will help you avoid the roller coaster affect.

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

One other point I want to point out is that I do all of this on 2 shots a day, I was told last month that my eyes are almost fully cleard up due to my control so it has to be good what I have done.

Ask your endocrinologist about moving to an MDI based insulin regiment based on carb intake...

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

Anyway I really need to go now before I headbutt my keyboard because of this low.

Catch you later all!

Good luck and best wishes...

[gobbly2100]

I have to say guys, I am really confused, my last HBA1c was 6.3 and if it stayed like that for the rest of my diabetic life I am more than happy, the fact my eyes have healed after being damaged I think shows that my blood sugar must be under good enough control for my body to heal itself from that kind of thing.

I don't aim to be AT 10 but that is what I like my peak to be as I know so many who peak at higher numbers.

2 shots a day is awesome, there are millions of people who have had diabetes for ages and live on 2 shots with no complications, even my neuropothy seems to be slowly sorting itself out so I really don't get how it is too high.

I don't want to be rude but if you are telling me you live with your diabetes under 6 or whatever 24/7 then you must be some kind of robot.

Like I said, I don't aim for 10, I keep it under that, also how can I be eating too many carbs for breakfast? My BS is fine so I don't get i, please explain.

As for not having sugar well . . .if you are going to suggest the artificial stuff then don't even think that is better than real sugar because that stuff is prooven to be a possible killer i.e cancer.

I guess the real question I am asking you guys is how is peaking at 10 too high?

[someone]

Cyborg, doing all that really isn't necessary to have an a1c in the 5s. 10 does seem like a pretty high target. My target is 90 (5 mmol/l).

6.3 isn't a horrible a1c though, so I guess you should keep doing what you're doing.

[shabbie6247]

i agree with cyborg that you consume rather a lot of carbs every day. i find it hard to manage my Bg's successfully when i eat LOADS of carbs at EVERY meal like you do.

bravo to you for getting your A1c down to such a great figure though, and its good news indeed that your eyes are improving.
i would still prefer to be on MDI, it cant be easy trying to strike a balance on the mixed insulins.

[AWarner]

I don't get it...an A1c of 10 is high according to everything I've read and my doc...is Diabetes different in the UK? How come you get to eat regular noodles and lots of carbs? I'm moving to Wales.....

[SueM]

Originally Posted by AWarner

I don't get it...an A1c of 10 is high according to everything I've read and my doc...is Diabetes different in the UK? How come you get to eat regular noodles and lots of carbs? I'm moving to Wales.....

His A1c is 6.3 not 10
What Gobbly is saying is that he has managed to keep his peeks to 10 he is not saying he runs at 10 or his A1c is 10.

Yes the amount of carbs he eats at certain meals is very high but then look at the amount of insulin he is injecting almost 100 units/day
As he is on premix he is feeding the insulin.
But as he has a needle phobia he can only cope with 2 shots a day.
Yes his diet is disgustingly unhealthy but if he is happy leave him be. Just as long as he doesn't try to educate anyone else on his eating habits why worry

[JediSkipdogg]

I see absolutely nothing wrong with what gobbly 2100 is doing. Having a high of 180 (10 mmol) is not that bad. He's not aiming his average there, but his peak. If I and many others on here could easily do that we'd love it. I can peak at 200+ after a basic 50 carb meal but I return to normal within 4 hours. So I see no problem with it.

I see no amount of carbs as too many. Especially not for breakfast which is the first meal of the day so you need the extra energy to wake up and perform well.

The only problem I have is the being on the Mix. However, if one can successfully work on it and is set in how they eat, then go for it. I was on NPH and R on set amounts for about 15 years before they said to start adjusting it. I did have slight problems, but not many. The only problem I have with it now is that you must feed it at the right times and you can't adjust for corrections. However, if it works for your lifestyle, then by all means use it. And if one stays under control enough with it then they don't need to worry about correction doses. And with Mix, an insulin to carb ratio and correction factor is pointless. If it works, keep using it. Why change the working?

Good job Gobbly and keep up the good work.

[xMenace]

Gobbly,

It is truly admirable what you've done. I was on 1 shot a day for quite awhile and then two.

Staying under 10 is my goal too.

There are serious problems with your regimine though:

- you can't skip meals or easily change their timings.

- you can't pig out and celebrate.

- you can't diet (risk).

- you probably have gaps in control which you can't address (hence the 6.3).

- if you get sick or stressed or your sugars get whacked for an other reason, you cannot easily adjust (risk).

You are on a set program and have no flexibility. Those of us on MDI and pumps have separated our basals and boluses. Those of us who understand our rates intimately can easily adapt to almost any condition safely and with confidence. You probably put much more work into your day than we do.

My A1C is down to 6.1 and dropping. I've had what I'll call three serious hypos that impaired my judgement and needed treating this year! I do get highs, I do spend some days testing in detail, but the vast majority of the days I only test 7-10 times. I have very little anxiety about staying in control.

I wish you'd give it a go!

[REDLAN]

well done Gobbly

your eyes clearing up is really good news.

an A1C of 6.3 with 2 shots a day is some going - and is better than a lot of people on MDI.

As far as the diet is concerned, I can't see what is wrong with noodles (noodles are typically made from wheat flour i.e. the same as pasta, and if you can eat spaghetti, then you can eat noodles).

and if you're getting good control with sugar in your tea then bully for you (me I can't stand the taste ) - when I was on mixed insulin I had to have a snack to keep my BG's up around mid-morning.

avoiding the spikes - this is the really hard bit, without a working pancreas stopping yourself ever going above 10 is really really tricky. Once an infection/mismeasured carb/random fluctuation in the Universe fires your liver into action it's like holding a tiger by the tail.

in short a pat on the back - if it works for you, why knock it.

<anyways I don't think you were looking for advice>

[DeusXM]

If it's working then that's great. I would ask though, what's your calorie intake a day? And do you really need sugar in your tea when you could just put artificial sweetener in it?

[LancetChick]

There's nothing wrong with high carb if you can get away with it. High carb works for me in any form. Gobbly, if you mixed the insulin yourself you could still take just the two shots, but have loads more flexibility.

[Gary_W]

Good for you on the A1c. I personally would put on loads of weight if I ate that lot and sat in an office all day but different strokes.