Total shock

sparrow1 · #1 (**permalink**) 12-15-2007, 09:44 AM

I can't believe it. My husband plays bridge with this guy who has diabetes. He always brags to me about how he eats what he wants because he wants to enjoy life. He said that he hopes to die with a french fry in each hand. I told him last week that he is at risk for a heart attack or stroke and that one day he will get a warning.

Well his wife just phoned to say he is dead. A heart attack. I can't believe it, but I am so sad that he did not get just a warning so that he could change his ways. And he looked so healthy - slim, athletic, and full of bravado.

I am in shock.

buddy7 · #2 (**permalink**) 12-15-2007, 10:40 AM

Hi -- sparrow 1

He said that he hopes to die with a french fry in each hand

It's always sad to here when a fellow T2 have passed away, It goes to show, this horrid disease can't be taken for granted, an unmonitored poor diet contributes to major poor health, in this diabetes business, you're what you eat, it saddens me when people takes this, negativity, of so precious a life, I'm truly sorry of his passing.

B/7 ESSEX. UK

shockme · #3 (**permalink**) 12-15-2007, 10:58 AM

(((((HUGS))))) trish

HiImDan · #4 (**permalink**) 12-15-2007, 11:58 AM

slipperyelm · #5 (**permalink**) 12-16-2007, 09:18 AM

Condolences.

May I ask how old he was? What type diabetes he had? How long he'd had it?

Also, why did you think he was headed for a heart attack or stroke?--High A1C, poor lipid numbers, and such?

sparrow1 · #6 (**permalink**) 12-16-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by slipperyelm

Condolences.

May I ask how old he was? What type diabetes he had? How long he'd had it?

Also, why did you think he was headed for a heart attack or stroke?--High A1C, poor lipid numbers, and such?

slipperyelm -He had had type 2 for 8 years. His A1Cs were high - I don't know about his lipids. Blood pressure was good. His doctor had told him that if he continued to eat without regard to his BG levels, it would be best if he went on insulin (bolus). He was resisting this.

Everyone else - thanks so much for your replies.

mg_2204 · #7 (**permalink**) 12-16-2007, 07:31 PM

And what a shock indeed!

My mother had Type 2 diabetes for about 20 years. She had an appalling lifestyle like you wouldn't believe it. She didn't care about diabetes nor her health as a matter of fact. Never suffered complications, never ended up in hospital because of diabetes. She died of lung cancer.

But I'm not willing to chance it. I am taking good care of myself. 'Warnings' like you say scare me more than death itself, and I'm not kidding. I've seen people ending up in a nursing home after such warnings.

Dewey · #8 (**permalink**) 12-16-2007, 07:47 PM

Sparrow, I'm deeply sorry & saddened to hear of the loss of your friend. It's a real shame & sad that he didn't get at least a warning. Trouble is, there's no guarantee he would have change had he been given a warning, either. It's just a no-win situation.

Again, I'm very sorry for your loss.

ant hill · #9 (**permalink**) 12-16-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sparrow1

Well his wife just phoned to say he is dead. A heart attack. I can't believe it, but I am so sad that he did not get just a warning so that he could change his ways. And he looked so healthy - slim, athletic, and full of bravado.

I am in shock.

Yes I would be too as my closeset uncle has passed away and a type 2 and had the life as he should he did it anyway. He died in hospital. He did not like the idea to be in a nursing home.

shockme · #10 (**permalink**) 12-17-2007, 06:00 AM

oh peter....i am so sorry about your uncle....(((((HUGS))))) trish

georgepds · #11 (**permalink**) 12-17-2007, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mg_2204

And what a shock indeed!

My mother had Type 2 diabetes for about 20 years. She had an appalling lifestyle like you wouldn't believe it....

My father was an athlete all his life. He looked like a short boxer, and was good with his fists in the hard scrabble neighborhood of his youth. Growing up I learned to swim from his buddy, a pro wrestler named Tony Altimari, aka the Italian stallion. When he retired, my father went back to his old passion, speed skating, and would blow past the now middle age friends of my youth, and their even slower teen agers, at the local rink.

He still died way too early, of a cancer, 2 years ago. This was a man who took care to stay fit. Even the athletes among us are subject to the whims of nature , it's not all nurture.

But I'm with you. i try to take are and slant the odds in my favor.

--G

princesslinda · #12 (**permalink**) 12-17-2007, 08:39 AM

I'm sorry to hear about your friend. We can all learn from situations like this. It's hard to "tow the line" sometimes with diabetes, but it's our best chance to hopefully do well longterm.

My mother had the same "quality of life over quantity of life" mindset and pretty much ate and did as she pleased...unfortunately she got neither quality or quantity, dying at 54.

We all have hard decisions to make every day with diabetes, and the choice is a personal one, yet it effects so many people who love us.