[laikacomehome]

what are the effects of these drugs on blood glucose levels and other diabetes factors. im curious to know because i havent done these things since i was diagnosed with type 1.

[caswellhb]

We have had a thread like this before.
The first problem is that it would become very difficult to monitor and treat D whilst under the influence.
Because of any unusual activity taken, or usual activity not taken, you may find fluctuations in your blood sugars. These could include hypos which you may not recognise because of the effects of the halucinogen.
If you decide to do this. Do it safely and with a "babysitter" who fully understands Diabetes and it's effects.
I make no judgements on whatever anyone chooses to do with their own bodies but advise that you think long and hard about the possible health effects.
Welcome to the forum. There are some really wonderful people here.
Post often and let us get to know you.
Be well.

Heather.

[ant hill]

Welcome to DF laikacomehome, You will like this place as we can help you in your quest to control Diabetes to our way of life. We also have fun too.

And the effect of other medicines can influence the Blood Glucose in some ways as there is so many ways that puts the liver to produce glucoden so more insulin is then needed.

[xMenace]

What Heather says. Being aware of our bodies plays a huge part in saving the sorry things, especially as you age and lose glycemic awareness.

[Gordonm]

Stay off the drugs. You will have enough problems dealing with diabetes. Why anyone would do this is beyond me. I don't care if you are young and expirementing, one bad drug and you are dead. Its over Johnny. I have seen to many lives ruined by this. Yes you will have problems with diabetes if you do drugs.

[Glucoweb]

I can't imagine taking something that could seriously affect your mental state being good to help you control your diabetes. Imagine if you hallucinate that you are having a really high Blood Sugar and take way to much insulin with levels that are actually good. Or the opposite situation and you go on a sugar binge. If you have not done them since you were diagnosed, why start now. Just stay off the illegal/un-needed recreational drugs. (Got to admit I have to chuckle at the term recreational drugs.. what a stupid, oxymoronic phrase. I am also completely puzzled at even the idea people would take drugs for "recreation".)

[Jan B]

You'd be better off to leave drugs alone. Find some activity that you love and get naturally high on. Why start doing something to make the world go away, when eventually you'll want to quit anyway and "grow up". Escapism never cured anything. It just delays coming to grips with life and reality. Plus you could accidentally hurt or kill yourself and/or others.

I'm glad you asked though.

[notme]

Smart people these Diabetes Forums members.

[jerryn]

It took me a while to write a reply to this. Try to treat the reason why you want to abuse body man. Learn to get a rush from learning something new, traveling somewhere you've never been before. I always get a rush when I design something new or solve a problem. I also get a rush if I make a great play playing football, soccer, or softball. I get a rush when my 16 year old plays something incredible on his guitar.
Then again I may be easily exciteable because I feel great if the sun is shining + a tune that I really like is playing on the stereo + I have a full tank of fuel + there's no traffic on the highway.

You need to solve the bigger problem. Why would you want to
do this to youself in the first place?

[Maddogg]

Originally Posted by laikacomehome

what are the effects of these drugs on blood glucose levels and other diabetes factors. im curious to know because i havent done these things since i was diagnosed with type 1.

Been there done that... I haven't touched those 2 drugs in a while but I never really had any adverse effects with them.
This doesn't mean anything for you though, drugs can affect everyone differently! Some people might get paranoid, others get relaxed and chill, some get the munchies... so its very difficult to determine how these halucinogens will affect you specificaly. How did they affect you before DX? Results and side effects should be almost exactly the same now that your diabetic, just keep track of your blood sugars more often (I would suggest at least doubling the frequency of your testing!)

Personally, I haven't had any bad experiences with them. But please note that I don't do this stuff anymore, I've been through that stage, it was called college!
I enjoyed it, abused it at times (maybe a bit too much even!), I moved on with my life, and now I need to work for a living!


Live and learn... whatever you do just stay safe, be cautious and make sure you have some friends or a buddy around you!

[laikacomehome]

hey first i just want to say thank you to you all. this is a very friendly forum and i plan on returning with questions (and maybe even some of my own advice once i have some to give). my friends that im going to be with are pretty educated on diabetes by now since im really close with them. im going to do it because its something i used to really enjoy and i dont want the diabetes to stop that. i will continue to live my life.

having done some of my own research the past few days i learned that if anything it will only raise bg levels. i can deal with that really. and ill just make sure my friends know one thing - never give me insulin. if i seem to need help just give me sugar. ill have my glucagon pen too.

i hope you all dont judge me because this seems like a nice place to ask questions

[princesslinda]

Its certainly not up to any of us to pass judgment on you, we're all just here to offer advice, support and encouragement as needed. We all must make our own decisions (in life in general, not just with our diabetes) and deal with any consequences that may arise from our choices....and try to help each other along the way.

You're very welcome here, there's lots to be learned from these great people. Hope you'll post often and read some of the older threads...its been a lifesaver to me since diagnosis.

[Gordonm]

All I can say is you will grow up hopefully someday if it does not kill you first. There is absolutly no reason in this world you or anyone should be doing drugs. There is enough things in this world that will give you a natural high. I could go on but it will probably do no good. Someday you will look back on this part of your life and see how foolish this is.

Get new friends these are doing you no good and to hang around with this type of people will just bring you down. I'm not wishing any harm on you but maybe it would wake you up and realize what you are doing to yourself. I don't know anyone (alive) that says drugs are a good part of my life.

Off my soap box here. I wish more would respond to this.

[johgn]

Originally Posted by laikacomehome

having done some of my own research the past few days i learned that if anything it will only raise bg levels. i can deal with that really. and ill just make sure my friends know one thing - never give me insulin. if i seem to need help just give me sugar. ill have my glucagon pen too.

i hope you all dont judge me because this seems like a nice place to ask questions

Personally I think it's fine to want to do this but I will warn
you that you could easily get too high and that can be dangerous as well (if it gets REALLY high), it would be ideal if your friend new how to test your blood sugar.

[princesslinda]

I also would wonder about the long-term effects this would have on your body as a whole, not just on your blood sugar. From what i've read (I have no "personal" experiences to go on), the physiologic responses include increased blood pressure, heart rate and body temperature (which could cause their own problems for you)....not to mention the possibility of flash-backs afterwards, as who knows how long these drugs may stay in your body tissues. Also, I would expect there would be a risk for psychological dependance just as there is to smoking, alcohol, food, etc....but with hallucenogenic drugs, having to take more to achieve the same effects could be life-threatening.

Again, I am not judging you...i've taken risks in my life at different times, fortunately, i'm still here and doing fine.....but I do know of many who aren't so lucky.

Life is short, even if you manage to live to a ripe old age....and some studies say that having diabetes may make it even shorter....why add anything else to the mix?

Lastly, if you had a friend who decided it would be fun to play Russian Roulette, would you encourage him to do so just for the adrenaline rush? I don't see that this is all that different.