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04-07-2008, 01:26 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tennessee
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| |  Diabetic care in prison.
Hi, I know of a person that has diabetes type 1 on insulin shots four times a day that might be going to prison. Can this person get the same health care inside as outside of prison when comes to treatment for Diabetes?
Thanks, Rob |
04-07-2008, 01:28 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kent, WA USA
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| | | He'll get better health care in prison than out of prison. They may switch him to an insulin mix rather than MDI, but I doubt it. They tend to be really careful with inmates' health...keep them healthy so they can do their time. |
04-07-2008, 01:29 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
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| | | We see prisoners in both the urology and dermatology practice where I work. The guards bring them in for treatment in shackles if something goes on that the prison docs can't handle. I'm sure someone would have to be available to give him his insulin shots as well.
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04-07-2008, 01:31 PM
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| | | Rob43,
I currently teach at a Correctional Facility and I promise you that he'll get better care here than on the outside, unless this person is an Astor, Bush, Walker, Coor, duPont or one of them other super rich.
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04-08-2008, 05:33 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rhode Island
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| | | My husband has worked in our State's Corrections Facility for 21 years. The inmates here get the best medical treatment at tax payer's expense!
I am very sure your friend won't have to worry about his diabetes care. He most likely will not be able to administer his own injections..........he will be sent to the Nurse and she will give it to him.
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04-08-2008, 11:16 AM
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| | | It depends on the prison.
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04-08-2008, 03:20 PM
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My friend will be put in a Michigan prison. So I hope his care is good.
Thanks, Rob |
04-08-2008, 06:21 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan
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| | Do you know which prison he's going to? Lakeland has a unit that specializes in diabetes managment and special needs and Jackson has a hospital. I'd say he'll get good care since the state likes to avoid litigation in addition to its health care costs.  |
04-10-2008, 07:45 AM
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| | | Even though he will be in prison, the state still has a duty of care, like others have said your friend will get better care and be closely monitored. |
04-10-2008, 12:22 PM
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| | Careful, guys. You're starting to tempt us uninsured. 
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c-peptide = 0.0% @ 2008/07
current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24
basal = 2U human N @ 0630, 4U detemir @ 0630, 8U detemir @ 1130, 19U detemir @ 2030
bolus = 1:15 I:C ratio; varying mix of aspart, human R, human N
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04-12-2008, 03:17 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sacramento California
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| | In california one of my diabetic friends went to jail for one too man DUI's and he is on a pump. In prison they only let him use injections of R and NPH  . |
04-12-2008, 10:21 AM
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| | | Um, actually getting to the prison could bring on a period of trouble. Sometimes the prisoner goes into custody originally in a city or county jail before being transported to the prison. Especially if he is considered temporary, he might have trouble in the holding jail. I could see that he could easily go for 24 hours with no insulin. He actually should call the jail ahead of time and tell them of his insulin needs. He should talk to the social worker (if there even is one) before he goes into the jail so that the social worker can help get insulin administration set up for him in the jail, before he heads out for the prison. |
04-12-2008, 10:58 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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| | | There's a HUGE difference between jail and prison and I think alot on here think the two are the same. A prison is a state run facility where care is generally at the highest. A jail is either a city or county run facility and care is at the lowest.
People awaiting trial will go to a jail and those convicted of minor offenses may have a short sentence in a jail. Those convicted of major crimes will be sentenced to a prison.
In a jail you operate on their schedule and generally it's run by morons that don't care 2 cents about you. I know a diabetic that spent less than 36 hours in a jail. When dinner time came around he was given his food. He told the person he needed his insulin before he could eat and the person said they would be around with meds in an hour. He said he couldn't wait for that and so the person took his food away and said that's fine, don't eat then. He wanted to sue, but to stay off the front page of the newspaper for his crime he decided not to.
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04-12-2008, 11:15 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas, US
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Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg  There's a HUGE difference between jail and prison and I think alot on here think the two are the same. | Wow. I never stopped to notice that. D'oh. Thanks for pointing that out!
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Eddy
DXed 2007/04 = advanced-stage DKA, A1c of 12.9%, and BMI of 21.3
post-DX A1c = 5.4% @ 2008/07; 5.2% @ 2008/04; 5.3% @ 2007/12; 5.3% @ 2007/08
c-peptide = 0.0% @ 2008/07
current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24
basal = 2U human N @ 0630, 4U detemir @ 0630, 8U detemir @ 1130, 19U detemir @ 2030
bolus = 1:15 I:C ratio; varying mix of aspart, human R, human N
not a low-CHO eater... not even close!
last updated 2008/07/22
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04-12-2008, 12:14 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 8,164
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Originally Posted by Eddy Wow. I never stopped to notice that. D'oh. Thanks for pointing that out! | There's alot more terms too.... Holding Facility, Justice Center, Penitentiary. They all mean about the same however in the law enforcement community they have huge differences. Alot of the care levels also matter on who runs it, the best care will be given by the state since they can blow money all they want and few go after them. The worst care will be at the county level since they are the ones hurting for money the most (or they act like it.)
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●Blue Ash, Ohio Police Dispatcher
●Type 1 diabetic for 25 years (11 months old)
●Animas pumper since December of 2002
~IR 1000 (Dec. 2002-Jan. 2005)
~IR 1200 (Jan. 2005 - ?)
●LifeScan OneTouch UltraSmart Diabetes is an Art, NOT a Science. You must master the control by skills and not by knowledge alone. |
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