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Old 06-22-2008, 03:48 AM
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Do Sugar Substitutes raise BS levels?

Substitutes like Sweet and LOw, Splenda etc. How about using honey?
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:42 AM
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I am a type 1 and can have natural sweeteners even honey!! but then it must be counted so that can match with the bolus.

As for the type 2's I cannot say what works for them but I can say that you can but to exercise it off and look at this as energy that you can use for physical workout.

overall I think that this can easily good for active people as that they will use it up.
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:48 AM
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My CDE told me that one packet equals a third of a gram of carb, so I should consider that when counting. I have noticed a slight rise when I am drinking my coffee, but it is very slight and I ignore it.
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:54 AM
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"sweetners", per se, have no carbs, but something like Sweet and Low or Equal has a bit of real sugar mixed in the power 9so that it's tastes better). It's not enough to count, unless you use a lot. Honey IS sugar.
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:17 AM
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...Honey IS sugar.
- but I prefer agave and honey to sugar or substitutes. There are small but real reasons.
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:27 AM
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Keith:

What is agave?

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What is agave?
Agave (link) is a plant. The same one they use to make tequila from. Agave nectar (link) is a lot like sugar but has a slightly lower GI.

The kind that I get at my local health food store looks like this:


It looks kinda like corn syrup and just tastes sweet.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:37 PM
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- but I prefer agave and honey to sugar or substitutes. There are small but real reasons.
Honey is food! Sugar is sugar.

WHFoods: Honey

An International Symposium Discusses Likely Benefits of Honey

Speakers at the First International Symposium on Honey and Human Health, held in Sacramento, CA, January 8, 2008, presented a number of research papers. (Fessenden R. Report to the Committee for the Promotion of Honey and Health) Findings include:

Different varietals of honey possess a large amount of friendly bacteria (6 species of lactobacilli and 4 species of bifidobacteria), which may explain many of the "mysterious therapeutic properties of honey."

Lactobacilli, which deliver protective and beneficial benefits to bees as well as humans, were not found in the bees' honey stomach during the winter months when the bees under investigation were fed sucrose, indicating that certain bee-feeding practices may have dangerous and unwanted effects on bees.

Honey may promote better blood sugar control. Proper fueling of the liver is central to optimal glucose metabolism during sleep and exercise. Honey is the ideal liver fuel because it contains a nearly 1:1 ratio of fructose to glucose. Fructose "unlocks" the enzyme from the liver cell's nucleus that is necessary for the incorporation of glucose into glycogen (the form in which sugar is stored in the liver and muscle cells). An adequate glycogen store in the liver is essential to supply the brain with fuel when we are sleeping and during prolonged exercise. When glycogen stores are insufficient, the brain triggers the release of stress hormones - adrenalin and cortisol - in order to convert muscle protein into glucose. Repeated metabolic stress from cortisol produced when less than optimal liver glycogen stores are available during sleep, leads over time, to impaired glucose metabolism, insulin resistance, diabetes, and increased risk for cardiovascular disease and obesity.

Experimental evidence indicates that consumption of honey may improve blood sugar control and insulin sensitivity compared to other sweeteners. The body's tolerance to honey is significantly better than to sucrose or glucose alone. Individuals with greater glucose intolerance (e.g., those with mild diabetes and Type 1 diabetes) showed significantly better tolerance to honey than sucrose. In addition, the antioxidants in honey, which have been shown to reduce oxidative stress, frequently by a larger factor than can be explained by their actual amount, may be beneficial for diabetics and help to improve endothelial function (the function of the cells that make up the lining of our blood vessels) and vascular health.

In a year-long animal study comparing the effects of sucrose, honey and a low glycemic index (GI) sugar-free diet, rats on the honey-based diet showed: reduced weight gain and percentage of body fat, decreased anxiety, better spatial recognition memory, improved HDL cholesterol (15-20% higher than rats fed sugar or sucrose diets), improved blood sugar levels (HA1c), and reduced oxidative damage.

Honey has been shown to be a more effective cough suppressant for children ages 2-18 than dextromethorphan (see "One Study Finds Buckwheat Honey To Be a Successful Cough Medicine" earlier in this Health Benefits section)

Honey boosts immunity. Research conducted in several hospitals in Israel found honey effective in decreasing the incidence of acute febrile neutropenia (when high fever reduces white blood cell count) in 64% of patients. Honey also reduced the need for Colony Stimulating Factor (a compound produced in the cells lining the blood vessels that stimulate bone marrow to produce more white blood cells) in 60% of patients with acute febrile neutropenia; increased neutrophil count (another type of white blood cell), decreased thrombocytopenia (low platelet count), and stabilized hemoglobin levels at >11 gm/dl (a bit low but way better than full blown anemic).

32% of the cancer patients involved in the above immunity research reported improved quality of life.
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These guys are selling honey. I would sooner believe a used car salesman or someone running for president.
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:53 PM
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Honey has been used as a food by humans since before we started walking upright.

I agree you need to count it as fast carbs when using (infrequently and in small amounts). But given a choice I would rather use Honey or Maple Syrup, over refined white sugar... which I believe is mostly made from sugar-beets these days and not cane-sugar. Honey or Maple Syrup taste better and as a result, I find that you can use less but still feel satisfied. They also contain trace elements not found in refined sugar. Honey has long been used for sore throats and in my experience is effective in a green-tea with perhaps some lemon juice added. And No... I don't sell honey although I used to keep some bee-hives and have read widely on the subject.
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I use Splenda everyday and have been lucky that it doesn't make a difference with me.
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:00 AM
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But given a choice I would rather use Honey or Maple Syrup, over refined white sugar... which I believe is mostly made from sugar-beets these days and not cane-sugar.
I'm not sure that this is true ... Ireland used to grow a lot of Sugar Beet, but competition from Sugar Cane grown in th Carribean caused the sugar refining industry to switch to cane sugar ... the last sugar beet farm closed about 4 years ago!

The situation may be different in Canada, but I doubt it!
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:45 AM
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If you are experiencing higher bgs even though you are eating sugar free variants of certain foods, it could be due to another ingredient in the food such as caffeine that for me causes fluctuations in bg. Sugar alcohols such as maltitol or sorbital are converted into sugar inside your body and will raise your bg. Be careful about food labels like no added sugar etc as they can be miss guiding, looking for carbohydrates is your best indicator as to if a food will raise your bg.
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18.10.08-17.11.08 SD: 2.0mmol/L or 36mg/dl
18.09.08-17.10.08 SD: 2.4mmol/L or 43mg/dl
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