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10-26-2009, 02:13 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tennessee
Posts: 2,001
| | | HOPE in treating my Diabetes. I'm going to go back and eating anything I want. | 
10-26-2009, 02:23 AM
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Posts: 54
| | | Hopefully you are joking. What made you decide to do this if you are being serious? | 
10-26-2009, 02:49 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 1,285
| | | I'm sorry your having issues Rob & hope you decide against this
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Lee
Dx Dec 07 Control...nutrition & exercise
Latest A1c 6.1
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10-26-2009, 03:49 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Landenberg, PA
Posts: 1,763
| | | Fun short term, bad long term unless you like carrots and celery Rob. Sound like moderation rather than abandonment might be a better course.
Mike
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Pumping since 2002 | 
10-26-2009, 06:29 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northern VA
Posts: 424
| | | Hope you enjoyed you hands, feet, eyes, and organs while they lasted!
__________________ *Jill* Diagnosed Type 2 May 21, 2008, A1C 9.5, Fasting Glucose 214 Had DS surgery to resolve diabetes on March 27, 2009.
3/27/09: 308.5 pounds
9/29/09: 221 pounds A1C on July 10, 2009: 5.4
A1C on September 29, 2009: 5.1 | 
10-26-2009, 07:45 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tennessee
Posts: 2,001
| | | Why should I treat diabetes when I cann't get answers from two diabetic doctors and the people on here? Why should even try? Been the ER four times this year without any help. Been on blood thinner for seven years to find out it was a waste of money and time one doctor has told me. In the eyes of doctors we are lifetime patients that make them money.
Rob | 
10-26-2009, 07:53 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 506
| | | rob...no one here WANTS to be doing this.
and, most people here have issues with doctors.
asking for advice on the forum is a good resource, but everyone's diabetes and treatment/management is individual.
if you've truly resolved to "quit" then so be it. that's your choice, although a truly unfortunate one.
to your question of "why should i even try?"...that's not something anyone here can answer. YOU have to want to live a long, healthy life. no one here can make you want that. the only other answer i can come up with is "because you CAN."
think about people who have diseases that can't be managed...they would swap with you in a heartbeat, i would guess.
otherwise, you know the risks of uncontrolled diabetes. they are your risks to take.
i hope you change your mind.
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A1C on dx (Feb 11 2009): 8.9
A1C (May 6 2009): 6.6 — getting there!
A1C (July 7 2009): 6.2 — getting closer...!
AIC (Sept. 8 2009): 5.9 — yeah!!
AIC (Nov. 5 2009): 5.7
MDI with Humalog and Humulin-N
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10-26-2009, 08:13 AM
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Posts: 54
| | | If your doctors aren't helping you, then get a new doc! Doctors don't make anymore money if you are sick rather than healthy, you just need to find the right doc. I am currently in medical school, and I can assure you that doctors would rather have healthy diabetic patients. I went to four different doctors until I found the right one, and yes it pissed me off.
You say that you have been to the ER 4 times w/o help, and thus should ignore your disease? That is BS! What do you think will happen if you forget about it? You will die a slow and painful death, period.
I'm sorry that I'm being a bit aggressive, but I spent a few years ignoring my illness. Will there be any side effects due to my inattention? Who knows. My life got so much better when I started taking care of myself, and I hate seeing people going down the same path as I was a few years ago. You need to start by finding the right doctor for you, and then things will start falling into place. Please don't stop treating your disease!!! | 
10-26-2009, 08:16 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northern VA
Posts: 424
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Originally Posted by Rob43 Why should I treat diabetes when I cann't get answers from two diabetic doctors and the people on here? Why should even try? Been the ER four times this year without any help. Been on blood thinner for seven years to find out it was a waste of money and time one doctor has told me. In the eyes of doctors we are lifetime patients that make them money.
Rob | #1 - Find a doctor who will listen.
#2 - If #1 does not work, do your own research for answers.
#3 - What questions have gone unanswered here? I recommend posting on the Type 2 section, not here - this general area tends to get fewer responses, likely due to less traffic.
__________________ *Jill* Diagnosed Type 2 May 21, 2008, A1C 9.5, Fasting Glucose 214 Had DS surgery to resolve diabetes on March 27, 2009.
3/27/09: 308.5 pounds
9/29/09: 221 pounds A1C on July 10, 2009: 5.4
A1C on September 29, 2009: 5.1 | 
10-26-2009, 08:28 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
Posts: 5,429
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Originally Posted by Rddoms If your doctors aren't helping you, then get a new doc! Doctors don't make anymore money if you are sick rather than healthy, you just need to find the right doc. I am currently in medical school, and I can assure you that doctors would rather have healthy diabetic patients. I went to four different doctors until I found the right one, and yes it pissed me off.
You say that you have been to the ER 4 times w/o help, and thus should ignore your disease? That is BS! What do you think will happen if you forget about it? You will die a slow and painful death, period.
I'm sorry that I'm being a bit aggressive, but I spent a few years ignoring my illness. Will there be any side effects due to my inattention? Who knows. My life got so much better when I started taking care of myself, and I hate seeing people going down the same path as I was a few years ago. You need to start by finding the right doctor for you, and then things will start falling into place. Please don't stop treating your disease!!! | I agree to both -- get a new physician whom you TRUST, and yet ... it is STILL up to you. Ignore them all at only your own peril. I understand the frustration and attitude -- already went thru it with lipids. You truly have only yourself to handle this. We will help, the support here is tremendous. No matter what any MD tells you, it must come from YOU.
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12% Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30 metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. | 
10-26-2009, 08:29 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan
Posts: 535
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Originally Posted by Rob43 I'm going to go back and eating anything I want. | Everybody feels this way from time to time. Don't do that to yourself.......this feeling will pass and if it doesn't talk to your doc and have him help you.
I get frustrated all the time. I don't have super great numbers like some people in this forum. I am not going to eat myself to death though, I am going to adjust and keep on adjusting until I get it right. I have a doc appt in December and if I don't get to where I want to be by then I will make him adjust my meds.
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Current Meds
Lantus 26 units Split dose
Novolog as needed
Metformin 1500mg
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10-26-2009, 08:52 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 378
| | Hello, Rob.
You are free to do as you wish, obviously. But if you truly do as you've stated, then over time you are feeding into that mentality by making yourself a lifetime patient who will eventually become very physically dependent on these same doctors. We determine the extent of our health care involvements, personally and professionally. Please don't let your frustrations with the medical community you're involved with negatively affect the way you treat yourself. I mean, really, who are you hurting with that choice?
Which questions were you asking on the Forums that you didn't receive assistance with?
I'm somewhat surprised by that.
I've had my frustrations, too...and recently.
I hope you're just venting right now, and you soon realize that the only person in charge of your care is you...and if you abdicate that responsibility, then it doesn't matter who your doctor is.
I hope you get back to taking care of yourself, and that you're feeling better soon.
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* Failed the OGTT at dx w/ a 288 at 2 hrs. Diagnosed 5/27/09 * A1c: 5/27/09: 6.6; FBG 99
* A1c: 10/23/09: 6.1; FBG 96
* Home FBGs now 96 -114 * My BG reached 200+ ONLY after drinking the test glucose or when I ate the ADA suggested oatmeal for breakfast
* Metformin XR (500 @ AM & PM).
* NatureMade Pack/Diabetes Support
* 81 mg. aspirin
* Low(er) Carb & More Motion (44 lbs so far!) | 
10-26-2009, 11:27 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: TX
Posts: 488
| | | I've been through NINE endocrinologists in just as many years.... sometimes it takes a while to find one you really get along with well. I've left practices for reasons that had very little to do with the doctors as well.
What are the problems you are having? Honestly I looked through all of the threads you've posted recently, and apart from ONE thread on insulin from a few months ago I don't really see where you've actually asked for help from anyone.. I suggested at the time that I suspect you're not taking enough insulin for your needs. I still stand by that statement. From reading some of your posts it sounded like you were still eating "whatever you wanted".
If what you are currently doing is "not working" then you need to figure out why - maybe you need different dosages, maybe you need different meds, maybe you need to seriously reevaluate your diet, but there is NO reason to give up.
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10-26-2009, 01:55 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tennessee
Posts: 2,001
| | My two doctor's are endocrinologists. One has over 10,000 patients I've been told. This town has only one endocrinologist for over 100,000 people. My other one is in Nashville. My BG today is 450 with me taking shots which is 40 units. All I drink all day is water with Lemon and don't eat much and still my BG is high. I've never been over 500 in all the years of having diabetes.
Rob | 
10-26-2009, 02:49 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 1,285
| | | Rob I'm not in tune with your 'shots' but it's obviously not doing the job so time to change type. It's time to change doctors as well. There are some really good GP's so you dont necessarily need an endo. I cant recall your questions here so I either missed them or didn't have an answer.
Are you getting exercise? Even the wheelchair bound must exercise.
We have a better health care system here but even with that I still dont want to make such claims.It's easier to fight the battle with D then to eat up & take the consequences.
You are a valued member of our community so please let us try to keep you with us.
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Dx Dec 07 Control...nutrition & exercise
Latest A1c 6.1
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