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Old 06-22-2005, 08:02 AM
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Fruits

Do any fruits have a too high sugar content that would be of risk to diabetics? And if so, what fruits have are better for diabetics?

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Eating fruit is fine, and indeed to be encouraged. Although indeed fruits do contain sugar, generally it is in the form of fructose which has much lesser effect on bg than either sucrose or glucose. Therefore the net effect on bg of eating a piece of fruit is minimal and certainly nothing to worry about - you definitely won't be able to bolus for a piece of fruit because you'd need about 1/8th of a unit.

There appears to be some sort of belief that bananas are higher in sugar because I think people of a certain age believe that you have to treat hypos with bananas. However I've never noticed any significant rise from bananas or indeed any other fruit, and being someone who habitually grazes on dried fruit all day I'd like to think I have fairly good understanding as to fruit sugar content.

So eat lots of fruit, because it's really good for you. You're supposed to eat at least 5 portions of fruit and veg a day, and it's pretty hard to do that without fruit.
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:16 AM
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Grapes of which I love to, and do, devour send my bgl to the moon. Of course, it could be the amount I eat (big bunch). lol I eat a huge variety of fruit daily without a prob. I know how it affects me, so I know how to treat it... now. Took me a while to figure it out. lol
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I also eat plenty of fruit. Honeydew melon makes my levels go up. Grapes don't seem to affect me much
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:40 AM
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I find that the fiber content in a Granny Smith Apple helps counter the carbs. Likewise, I love grapes, honeydew, watermelon, you name it; except for grapefruit. All of wich will raise your sugar if you eat too much, too often, without countering with an adequate amount of insulin.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:57 AM
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There appears to be some sort of belief that bananas are higher in sugar because I think people of a certain age believe that you have to treat hypos with bananas. However I've never noticed any significant rise from bananas or indeed any other fruit, and being someone who habitually grazes on dried fruit all day I'd like to think I have fairly good understanding as to fruit sugar content.
Deus, I hate to disagree with ya but I'm going to have to :p
Bananas rocket my blood sugar and I certainly could treat a hypo with a banana and have done in the past.

I also eat loads of fruit (maybe too much perhaps), I eat it all day long every day. I have to bolus for apples, peaches, nectarines, melon (sometimes), pineapple, raspberries, and passionfruit. Things I don't bolus for are strawberries and plums and thats it. Grapes make me go high too but I don't eat those anymore. I can't remember what effect grapefruit has coz I don't like them, way to sour for me.

For me strawberries are the best, they dont affect my blood sugar one tiny bit.
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Old 06-22-2005, 12:40 PM
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The extent to which fruit will affect your blood sugar depends on the quantity you eat and the glycemic index. Grapes conain about 1gram of carbs each. So 15 grapes contains a similar amount of carbs as a slice of bread. But bread has a GI of about 70 while the GI of grapes is 46.

Here are the GI values for fruits :

# Apple GI is 38
# Banana GI is 55
# Cantaloupe GI is 65
# Cherries GI is 22
# Grapefruit GI is 25
# Grapes GI is 46
# Kiwi GI is 52
# Mango GI is 55
# Orange GI is 44
# Papaya GI is 58
# Pear GI is 38
# Pineapple GI is 66
# Plum GI is 39
# Watermelon GI is 103

Watermelon has a very high GI. But it contains very little sugar. So It doesn't affect blood sugar much. I eat a lot of apples. But I don't bolus for them. I use more basal insulin that I otherwise would.

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Old 06-22-2005, 02:18 PM
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I stay away from sweet fruit. I do eat fruit although society for the most part calls these vegetables. The fruits I eat most (and these are all technically and biological fruits, and they contain all the nutritional value, if not more, of the sweet fruit, just not all the sugar) are: avocados, summer squash, zucchini, peppers, eggplant and pumpkin and in small quantities tomato, and cucumber. I only eat these at meal times and I eat an amble serving of them and do calculate them into my meal bolus. These “fruits” have about the same GI and carbohydrate content as non-starchy vegetables and I eat them in place of my vegetable serving at meal time. It is true that we should all eat fruit for the nutritional value, but it does not need to be sweet fruit to get the same amount of vital vitamins, minerals, and phytochemicals. Here is an informative site on what is actually a fruit: http://www.thefruitpages.com/tomatoes.shtml

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Old 06-22-2005, 03:42 PM
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I do bolus for most fruits (even berries), b/c they are carbohydrates and I find they do raise my blood sugar (though some more than others). I would keep an eye on how it affects your blood sugar levels-everyone is different, and then make adjustments if need be. I don't think you would need to cut fruits out completely, b/c they are healthy...not to mention tasty
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Old 06-22-2005, 08:19 PM
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I am with Amy...different fruits have different effects on my BS...don't understand why but hey...,..I have figured out what to bolus for them
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:35 AM
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Thanks a lot for the insight, everyone.

My Aunt has diabetes and she went pretty high a couple days ago. Had to call the paramedics. Since she couldn't see a dietition yet, I went online to get info in order to help her with choosing her foods. She doesn't know how to surf the net and this is all pretty confusing to me. Anyway, the paramedic said the rise might have had something to do with the fruit she ate the previous night. She ate a bunch of grapes.
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Old 06-23-2005, 09:10 AM
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I bolus for fruit carbs exactly the way I do for "Regular" carbs----1:15 ratio and I get along fine.

From all my research, like everything else with Diabetes, it depends on the individual as to how you must deal with fruit carbs.

Some folks can't eat any fruti without going "Through the roof" while others can eat up certain amounts withouot having to bolus.
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Old 06-23-2005, 09:39 AM
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How many grapes did your aunt eat? A bg rise that would require paramedical attention would be astronomical (we're talking a raise of at least 25mmol/l here), so I would summarise that either your aunt was already running rather high when she ate the grapes, or she ate a heck of a lot of grapes.
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Old 06-24-2005, 01:15 AM
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i think everyone reacts different to different fruits, like banannas are killer for me but i can eat lots of apples and strawberries will little to no effect
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Old 06-24-2005, 11:13 PM
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bananas? really? I had a hypo few weeks ago and ate some surgary lollies and then a banana and manderine so the low wouldnt re-occur. Funny, half an hour later im low again. Bananas and fruit never stabilise me. They always make me low if i dont eat them along with anything else. Normally bread does it for me when i have a low.
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