[BriOnH]

I think where we are differing here is what is avaiable now and what the future holds. Like i said since the beggining, right now it is FAR from being perfected, and I am looking towards the future on facts that have been established that can be built apon. Carwy has experienced what is available now, this imo is analagous to the first insulins used where you have to give over 5cc's of insulin at a time with a needle you sharpen over a wetstone and boil and have no idea what your blood sugar is, but you live! Over the years it got better and better (hence free market), just like i believe it will with stem cells. With what Carwy has been through it is the latest and greatest of what we have availaible(light years ahead of 5 cc insulin doses and wetstones), but I know it will improve even more. And I am sorry you had to go through what you had to go through, and can't even imagine the awfullness of it, but your first person experience and expertise(and i greatly consider you a subject matter expert on this, and respect you carwy) is with cancer related stem cell technologies. If you believe cells won't be perfected to the point where they can be differentiated into any cell, be truely recognized as self and not rejected is a belief I just have to disagree with. It's ok to agree to disagree.

[Dewey]

Originally Posted by BriOnH

I think where we are differing here is what is avaiable now and what the future holds. Like i said since the beggining, right now it is FAR from being perfected, and I am looking towards the future on facts that have been established that can be built apon. Carwy has experienced what is available now, this imo is analagous to the first insulins used where you have to give over 5cc's of insulin at a time with a needle you sharpen over a wetstone and boil and have no idea what your blood sugar is, but you live! Over the years it got better and better (hence free market), just like i believe it will with stem cells. With what Carwy has been through it is the latest and greatest of what we have availaible(light years ahead of 5 cc insulin doses and wetstones), but I know it will improve even more. And I am sorry you had to go through what you had to go through, and can't even imagine the awfullness of it, but your first person experience and expertise(and i greatly consider you a subject matter expert on this, and respect you carwy) is with cancer related stem cell technologies. If you believe cells won't be perfected to the point where they can be differentiated into any cell, be truely recognized as self and not rejected is a belief I just have to disagree with. It's ok to agree to disagree.

You're very right about this Brion (about the advancements made in stem cell treaments over the years), and about how things have changed even since we've started on insulin (or other meds) for our Diabetes. I hope that things will continue to be perfected as time goes on, so that in the future, everyone may reap benefits with little or no side effects.

[Carwy]

Your right Brion. I would say do not do it right now if you do not have too. Also I can only give you what I know. I no expert but I do know what I have been through. Right now in this time and age if you do not have something that is life threating I would say do not do it. They are now telling me that if they do it twice they have better results. I say the cancer is in remission and there is no way I will do it again until I have to. That will be if the cancer comes back and not before then. I'm just saying way the risk against the advantages of it.