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11-19-2009, 07:51 AM
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| | | Josselyn -- exactomundo!
My house is like a ZOO. 3 kids, 4 cats. If I do not have "autopilot" routine for breakfast and morning stuff, we run late and the mood of the day is ... less than satisfactory!
Sometimes no matter how natural-food oriented we are, we need conveniences.
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Linda Feb 18 A1c 6.1 Nov 30 A1c (MD office) 5.6%
Jul 09 ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
Mar 10 C-pep 2.8 (20 g carb); GAD 3.2 metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.2
coming soon ... : Levemir We DID NOT eat our way here. | 
11-19-2009, 08:13 AM
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| | | Josselyn gets my vote too . . . for the Endulge bars. I've never tried anything else and I don't buy these very often, but am thinking about getting some to keep in my pocket during Thanksgiving holidays, to help me dodge the pecan pies, etc., which will surely be calling to me.
There again, I have nothing to compare with, since I've never eaten power bars/granola bars/etc., but these Endulge bars are so close to Mounds & Reese's that I can't tell the difference - having not HAD a real Mounds or Reese's any time lately.
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11-19-2009, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by foxl Josselyn -- exactomundo!
My house is like a ZOO. 3 kids, 4 cats. If I do not have "autopilot" routine for breakfast and morning stuff, we run late and the mood of the day is ... less than satisfactory!
Sometimes no matter how natural-food oriented we are, we need conveniences. | I hate to say it, but that need for a convenience food is what got our country's waistline to bulge so much in the first place.
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11-19-2009, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeprep4820 I hate to say it, but that need for a convenience food is what got our country's waistline to bulge so much in the first place. | You seem to hate a lot of what you are saying this morning, Joe.
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Linda Feb 18 A1c 6.1 Nov 30 A1c (MD office) 5.6%
Jul 09 ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
Mar 10 C-pep 2.8 (20 g carb); GAD 3.2 metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.2
coming soon ... : Levemir We DID NOT eat our way here. | 
11-19-2009, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by foxl You seem to hate a lot of what you are saying this morning, Joe. | Almost got flattened by a rather large person on a scooter who was talking on his cell phone and not paying attention to the sidewalk, and, amongst other things, has led me to believe that this morning has not been one of my better ones in a while.
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11-19-2009, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeprep4820 I hate to say it, but that need for a convenience food is what got our country's waistline to bulge so much in the first place. | While that may be true, I think it's more specific than that. I still tend to eat a lot of "convenience food" but pay much more attention now to what kinds of them I eat. ... not to get off topic. 
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11-19-2009, 09:02 AM
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| | I'd think that in the case of being flattened by a scooter, the size of the rider would be irrelevant....though in restrospect, a "rather large person" might put someone out of their misery/suffering quicker than a "rather small person" might. 
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Metformin 500 mg twice daily
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Lower carb dieter (approx. 75 total carbs/day, more on weekends), taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (after dealing with shingles & bronchiti)
2/09: 5.5 | 
11-19-2009, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeprep4820 I hate to say it, but that need for a convenience food is what got our country's waistline to bulge so much in the first place. | Not begging to differ, but I know the difference between convenience food & natural. I'm the one who has grown her own vegetables/fruits, always canned/froze a year's supply of those vegetables/fruits, butchered her own beef for years, baked all her own bread, and I d'amn well will have an occasional Atkins Endulge bar if I wish. No, I don't eat McDonald's either, but please stop being so condescending about it. We all know what's good for us and what is not, and we all are not single young men with disposable income. Quote:
Originally Posted by Joeprep4820 Almost got flattened by a rather large person on a scooter who was talking on his cell phone and not paying attention to the sidewalk, and, amongst other things, has led me to believe that this morning has not been one of my better ones in a while. | Just please don't take it out on us, okay?
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11-19-2009, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeprep4820
My question is twofold - Why are these "foods" never in food aisles, and since there is nothing in these "foods" that would be edible on its own, why do we consider it to be a food? | LOL good question. I ended up in the hospital after eating a protein bar! Allergic reaction, face blew up LOL. Same think happened 2-years earlier with a protein drink
Stay away from processed foods is my motto!!!!!
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11-19-2009, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Granny Shanny Not begging to differ, but I know the difference between convenience food & natural. I'm the one who has grown her own vegetables/fruits, always canned/froze a year's supply of those vegetables/fruits, butchered her own beef for years, baked all her own bread, and I d'amn well will have an occasional Atkins Endulge bar if I wish. No, I don't eat McDonald's either, but please stop being so condescending about it. We all know what's good for us and what is not, and we all are not single young men with disposable income.
Just please don't take it out on us, okay? | Actually the fresh produce and meat I buy is less expensive if I buy it from the farmer's market, which I prefer doing. I'm still limping from moving out of the way from that scooter so happy I am not. Also, you may know the difference between what is good for you and what is not, as many people on this site do as well. I'm also very jealous that you were able to produce so much of your own food and I'm sure it was always delicious.
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11-19-2009, 09:31 AM
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| | | They're small, they fit into a tiny space in a briefcase, and make a decent snack when you're on an airplane or are some other place where looking for less-processed fare is not realistic. I ate one on my last flight to NY, I think. Beats the cookies/potato chips they offer as snacks.
I just checked my "emergency" Atkins Advantage Caramel Chocolate Peanut Nougat Bar. It expires in two days--I'd better eat it fast, and buy a replacement or two.
This bar has no sugar alcohols--19 grams of carbs, of which 11 are fiber (polydextrose) and 1 is sugar.
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A1c 11/08: 5.5; A1c 03/09: 5.3
A1c 09/09: 5.4
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11-19-2009, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ShottleBop This bar has no sugar alcohols--19 grams of carbs, of which 11 are fiber (polydextrose) and 1 is sugar. | Oh, so I need to check by FLAVOR, not by bar type ... Interesting. checked website and the amount and presence of sugr alcohols varies a LOT, within product families.
I do agree, they are practical!
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Linda Feb 18 A1c 6.1 Nov 30 A1c (MD office) 5.6%
Jul 09 ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
Mar 10 C-pep 2.8 (20 g carb); GAD 3.2 metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.2
coming soon ... : Levemir We DID NOT eat our way here. | 
11-19-2009, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ShottleBop They're small, they fit into a tiny space in a briefcase, and make a decent snack when you're on an airplane or are some other place where looking for less-processed fare is not realistic. I ate one on my last flight to NY, I think. Beats the cookies/potato chips they offer as snacks.
I just checked my "emergency" Atkins Advantage Caramel Chocolate Peanut Nougat Bar. It expires in two days--I'd better eat it fast, and buy a replacement or two.
This bar has no sugar alcohols--19 grams of carbs, of which 11 are fiber (polydextrose) and 1 is sugar. | I usually carry around the Quaker Oats Chewy bars myself - 90 calories each with about 15 grams of carbohydrates. They are small, virtually indestructible, and delicious. I also enjoy rye flats which are not as indestructible but are still tasty.
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11-19-2009, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeprep4820 Actually the fresh produce and meat I buy is less expensive if I buy it from the farmer's market, which I prefer doing. I'm still limping from moving out of the way from that scooter so happy I am not. Also, you may know the difference between what is good for you and what is not, as many people on this site do as well. I'm also very jealous that you were able to produce so much of your own food and I'm sure it was always delicious. | And it's good that you prefer to pay the farmers directly for their products; vegetables fresh from the garden undeniably have more flavor than fresh produce shipped in to the nearest chain store.
Part of our "thing" is simply the self-sufficient streak that seems to permeate our beings. . . my DH still cuts all our own firewood (we're on 20 acres here & most of it is timber, and he, btw, is 75 years old). He derives great satisfaction from having the autonomy/independence to provide heat for our home as well as a good physical workout for himself. I realize that we are rural folk (altho' he was born/raised in St. Louis) and have opportunities not available in more urban milieus. But it feels good even to ME that we don't have to pay the gas or electric companies hundreds of dollars and we don't have to turn down the thermostat!
I hope you feel better as the day progresses.
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11-19-2009, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeprep4820 I usually carry around the Quaker Oats Chewy bars myself - 90 calories each with about 15 grams of carbohydrates. They are small, virtually indestructible, and delicious. I also enjoy rye flats which are not as indestructible but are still tasty. | The Quaker bars all contain about 7 grams of sugar (see ingredients below), and only 1 of fiber, and, according to Quaker's website, between 18 and 22 or 23 grams of carbs, depending on the flavor. They're grain-based, low-fat, and low-protein. (I pretty much avoid all grains, these days--haven't really found anything that doesn't increase my BGs more than I want--and I look to balance my carbs with fat. The Atkins bars have that combination, and--at least, the ones I generally eat--no trans-fats. Plus, they provide vitamins, and 10 grams of protein.)** My choice is made no less mindfully than is yours. (ETA: of course, having now read The Vegetarian Myth, I'm a lot more suspicious of soy protein than before, and I generally look to minimize that as something I eat very often, as well.)
Of course, nuts do nicely as travelling food, as well--I like to pack Trader Joe's single-serving packets of almonds (and walnuts, when available) to take along on trips, along with a can or two of sardines packed in olive oil.
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* Ingredients of the Quaker Oats peanut butter flavor: Quote: |
GRANOLA (WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS, SUGAR, CRISP RICE [RICE FLOUR, SUGAR, SALT, MALTED BARLEY EXTRACT], WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED WHEAT, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN AND COTTONSEED OILS* WITH TBHQ AND CITRIC ACID ADDED TO PRESERVE FRESHNESS AND/OR SUNFLOWER OIL WITH NATURAL TOCOPHEROL ADDED TO PRESERVE FRESHNESS, WHOLE WHEAT FLOUR, MOLASSES, SODIUM BICARBONATE, SOY LECITHIN, CARAMEL COLOR, NONFAT DRY MILK), CRISP RICE (RICE FLOUR, SUGAR,BARLEY MALT, SALT), CORN SYRUP, INVERT SUGAR, PEANUTBUTTER (PEANUTS, SUGAR, HYDROGENATED COTTONSEED AND/OR RAPESEED OIL, SALT), SUGAR, GLYCERIN, CORN SYRUP SOLIDS. CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF SORBITOL, CALCIUM CARBONATE, SALT, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL
| **OK, it's an unfair comparison--the Atkins bar in question is much more of a meal replacement than a snack bar. But it has much less of an effect on my BGs than would a Quaker Oats Chewy Granola Bar.
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Last edited by ShottleBop : 11-19-2009 at 10:28 AM.
Reason: To add the bit about soy protein
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