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03-12-2008, 10:47 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tennessee
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| | What is a reasonable expectation? I'm sorry that I am obsessing over my next appointment and finding out how much weight I have lost but I can't help it!!!
As I have stated previously, I have not weighed myself at all ... as I want to be "surprised" at my appointment AND be sure I have an accurate scale comparison. It will have been 6 weeks this Friday and I still have 2.5 to go. What do you all think a reasonable weight loss expectation for 8.5 weeks should be? I am so afraid that I will be disappointed as I KNOW I will burst out in tears and be a total wreck!
In my own mind, I am shooting for 10 lbs ... is that good or not?
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
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03-12-2008, 10:58 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kent, WA USA
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| | According to most sources 2 pounds per week is reasonable. I'm on Weight Watchers and they like you to lose no more than 2 pounds per week, sometimes it happens to be less than a pound per week. It just really depends on what your metabolism is and what you've been eating and doing for exercise in order to lose the weight. Your 10 pound goal is definitely within reasonable limits.  | 
03-12-2008, 11:08 AM
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| | | Kim, I know how that trip to the scales can cause stress...but ANY amount you have lost is a blessing....as even a small amount means you're being proactive for your health.
I think those of us who are quite overweight see a bit more progress early on than those of us who are closer to normal weight.
The main thing is YOU know how hard you've worked, you've done the best you can. If you get 10-12 lbs..great, but if you get a 5 lb weight loss that STILL better than where you started out. Its a journey, and you'll get there! No tears, celebrate the small victories as well as the big ones!
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03-12-2008, 11:16 AM
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| | | Thank you, Rikki!
Linda, I know you are right as that is exactly why I haven't weighed all of this time. I told myself that feeling better was what was MOST important and I have definitely accomplished that. Also seeing some changes in the mirror and in the way my clothes fit is a reward in itself. I "almost" wish I could go something like 6 months without weighing but I know THAT would never happen! LOL!
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03-12-2008, 11:28 AM
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| | | Kim,
If I were you I would weigh! However, if I'd been going 6 weeks without weighing, it might be hard to finally give in. Can you explain why you won't just give in and weigh? You are more important than that number. You already said you have gotten comments from those close to you. I know you are fretting over every little 1/2 pound or so! Simple water retention or loss can change your weight on a daily basis. I'm not advising . . . just curious! I remember being obsessive over the weight thing . . . getting on the scales several times each day! Now, I weigh probably once or twice every couple weeks -- judging more on how I feel and fit in my clothes, instead of letting the number tell me how I feel about myself! I'd think you would lose at least 10 pounds in 8 weeks.
Hugs to you
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03-12-2008, 11:51 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tennessee
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Originally Posted by Jan B Kim,
If I were you I would weigh! However, if I'd been going 6 weeks without weighing, it might be hard to finally give in. Can you explain why you won't just give in and weigh? You are more important than that number. You already said you have gotten comments from those close to you. I know you are fretting over every little 1/2 pound or so! Simple water retention or loss can change your weight on a daily basis. I'm not advising . . . just curious! I remember being obsessive over the weight thing . . . getting on the scales several times each day! Now, I weigh probably once or twice every couple weeks -- judging more on how I feel and fit in my clothes, instead of letting the number tell me how I feel about myself! I'd think you would lose at least 10 pounds in 8 weeks.
Hugs to you | It's just that I know how self-defeating I can be and AM for the most part. I have struggled for years with and will always have depressive illnesses, so I can be my own worst enemy.
I tend to be an all or nothing kind of personality. I have a very difficult time with the "norm" range. When my husband and I met 17 years ago which was just after my divorce, I weighed only 98 lbs. I had been "dieting" for several months and obsessing over every ounce on the scales. I was devastated that I had gotten up to a "horrid" 112 or 114 pounds after my babies. Looking back now I could kick myself!  Anyway, I would tend to say that I was borderline anorexic back then as I was also over-exercising and taking ex-lax. I even saw 96 on the scales at one point and was still afraid of gaining!
I can almost bet my life on it that those days completely shut down my metabolism because once I started onto anti-depressants and quit seeking "skinny-dom", I started gaining and didn't stop. I now have no doubt that Celexa increased my appetite but at the time, my mental / emotional health far out valued my figure.
I haved rambled here but basically I am afraid that I will self-defeat and give up my new healthier lifestyle just based on numbers on the scale. Too bad I can't go back to over exercising! 
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7/25/08 - A1c 5.9
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03-12-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Kim_in_TN It's just that I know how self-defeating I can be and AM for the most part. I have struggled for years with and will always have depressive illnesses, so I can be my own worst enemy.
I tend to be an all or nothing kind of personality. I have a very difficult time with the "norm" range. When my husband and I met 17 years ago which was just after my divorce, I weighed only 98 lbs. I had been "dieting" for several months and obsessing over every ounce on the scales. I was devastated that I had gotten up to a "horrid" 112 or 114 pounds after my babies. Looking back now I could kick myself!  Anyway, I would tend to say that I was borderline anorexic back then as I was also over-exercising and taking ex-lax. I even saw 96 on the scales at one point and was still afraid of gaining!
I can almost bet my life on it that those days completely shut down my metabolism because once I started onto anti-depressants and quit seeking "skinny-dom", I started gaining and didn't stop. I now have no doubt that Celexa increased my appetite but at the time, my mental / emotional health far out valued my figure.
I haved rambled here but basically I am afraid that I will self-defeat and give up my new healthier lifestyle just based on numbers on the scale. Too bad I can't go back to over exercising!  | Just wanted to add that all of this behaviour mentioned before nearly certainly caused me to become diabetic! I don't mind saying that I weighed in at 188lbs. at my last appointment. I have nearly doubled my weight since "those days". 
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7/25/08 - A1c 5.9
Current Meds - Janumet 50/1000 2x daily
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03-12-2008, 12:00 PM
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| | You can't say with any certainty that this behaviour caused your diabetes... try not to be so hard on yourself 
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03-12-2008, 01:35 PM
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| | | More hugs to you! I also have a nice touch of that all or nothing personality. I've weighed as much as 185 (pregnant) and as little as 112. I remember when I was at 112, wanting to lose more. Now I'm at 125, which used to be my ideal weight, but since I made it to 125, I want to lose more. When people tell me I look a little thin, it's very hard to believe it. OR, I think, well good, at least I don't look a little fat! I've said for as long as I remember, moderation and balance are key, because they are soooooo hard to achieve! When I look in the mirror, some days I look thin and some days I look heavy. The scales say I haven't changed. I, like you, have depression and I'm not ashamed -- it's me. I am well controlled on 100mg/day of Zoloft.
Kim - 2 of my favorite women are over 200 lbs., and they look beautiful to me. They ARE beautiful. They don't bother me (much) about being a little thinner, and I certainly don't mind them being bigger. So there!!! Oh, my friend down the street is following weight watchers. She has a bunch of sheets printed out on her refrigerator pilled together with a big clip . . . started with 70 lbs to go, 69 . . . 68, etc. She weighs one time each week and tears down the sheets as she loses the weight. Every 5 lbs, she has a little present written down for herself (manicure, pedicure, new "toy" for collection, etc.). I pet sit for her & last time I was there, she was down to only 51 lbs left to go. She's happy and not too hard on herself when she has a setback. I'm impressed.
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03-12-2008, 02:19 PM
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| | Jan, you are a real sweetheart! (((HUGS))) According to the health charts for my age, height, etc., 125 to 130 is where I should be as well. Seems like a looooooong way to go but I'm going to give it my best shot! 
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03-12-2008, 03:29 PM
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| | | My scale is second only to my meter. I check my weight several times a day. I guess I am sort of obsessed. I also am able to check body fat and percentage of water. It has a feature that lets me set a goal and tells me how good I am doing towards it.
As for weight loss, 1.5 to 2 lbs a weeks is good. I was heavy so I lost a bit more initially, but have now am staying at my current weight of 175.
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03-12-2008, 07:47 PM
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| | [quote=Kim_in_TN;313377]It's just that I know how self-defeating I can be and AM for the most part. so I can be my own worst enemy.) ME to I have a self distruction button If its working then I have to break it. I tend to be an all or nothing kind of personality.)
I can relate to this also. years a go i would go to arebics twice a day ride a bike swim my blood sugars were 3-6mmols I lost up to 20 kilos. Then I stopped everything.
(I am afraid that I will self-defeat and give up my new healthier lifestyle just based on numbers on the scale. )
i can understand were you are at. I too get discouraged by the scales.so I try not to weigh to often. as if the loss is only small or non excistant I give up!! I have been trying to loose weight all my life. I manage for a while and then it's what's the use.
I try to go on how my clothes fit and how i feel. I think if you feel good and your blood sugars are OK stick to weighing occasionally.
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03-12-2008, 08:40 PM
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| | Handybear, I know too well about scale obsession! I would weigh after I drank water and get disgusted!!! Now that's bad!
Alicat, thank you for the support! I think one thing that is really helping right now is being able to sort of use my meter as my "scale". For some reason the new low numbers on it sort of make me feel like they are corresponding to my weight. So as long as I keep my BG readings at a low then I have been satisfied not knowing what the scales would say. Hope I can keep that mentality for quite a bit longer! 
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4/01/08 - A1c 5.9 
7/25/08 - A1c 5.9
Current Meds - Janumet 50/1000 2x daily
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03-12-2008, 11:06 PM
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| | | hi kim...good luck at the dr.'s....i am sure your hard work has paid off....and congratulations on the improved numbers...
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03-13-2008, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kim_in_TN Handybear, I know too well about scale obsession! I would weigh after I drank water and get disgusted!!! Now that's bad! | From somebody who attended Weight Watchers (and lost 56 pounds) back in 2001, I know about the temptation to Weigh frequently. The fact that we supply equipment to WW in Ireland means that I'm surrounded by scales. One thing, when you go to get weighed, try wear the same clothes you did when weighed 6 weeks ago, if at all possible try get an appointment at the same time of day as the last appointment (we weigh lighter in the morning) and don't drink lots of water before being weighed. Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim_in_TN Alicat, thank you for the support! I think one thing that is really helping right now is being able to sort of use my meter as my "scale". For some reason the new low numbers on it sort of make me feel like they are corresponding to my weight. So as long as I keep my BG readings at a low then I have been satisfied not knowing what the scales would say. Hope I can keep that mentality for quite a bit longer!  | Try not to stress out too much, the average weight loss for a woman (according to WW) is 1-1.5 pounds/week, sometimes more weight is lost in the first week. Your goal of 10 pounds is possible, in the unlikely event of not reaching that bear in mind that if you had not tried you may have put on weight. One mind trick I have used to keep motivated over the years is that every pound the scales tells you that you have lost, could nearly be considered as 2 pounds, the one you lost plus the one you did not put on  The other way of looking at it is, a knee surgeon once told me that for every pound you weigh your knees are subject to 4 times that weight in stress.
I know you will do great when you get weighed,
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