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04-03-2008, 05:35 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cape Coral, Florida
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| | Chocolate Ice Cream Myth or Fact? I read somewhere not too long ago that chocolate ice cream, more so dark chocolate ice cream isn't bad for diabetics? I've found one article on it but unfortunately they didn't reference their source. I know that dark chocolate isn't as bad but I've read ice cream labels and I know that ice cream is something I should avoid.
Has anyone else heard about this before? Is there any truth to this?
Here's the article I found. Lick Diabetes with Ice cream and Dark Chocolate. | 
04-03-2008, 05:39 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rothesay, New Brunswick Canada, eh
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| | It's just as bad for diabetics as it is for everyone else, so ya, it's bad for us.
That article is pure ****. For all you ice cream lovers this is great news you can prevent developing diabetes just by eating ice cream. In particular, eating chocolate ice cream can do the trick to prevent diabetes. One way to prevent getting diabetes is to eat more dairy foods and ice cream is a dairy product. For every increase in dairy servings per day decreases your chance of developing diabetes. So, does ice cream count as a serving? Yes, indeed. But you better your chances and maintain your weight if you eat low fat ice cream. Any ice cream will work against diabetes but chocolate seems to work even better | 
04-03-2008, 05:39 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Livonia, MI
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| | | Never heard something like this about ice cream... The article mentions that low-fat ice cream is even a better choice. Typically low-fat = more sugar in products like ice cream... I would take it with a grain of salt, unless someone else knows something...
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04-03-2008, 05:45 PM
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| | | I would forget this silliness Tashia. I wish it were true, but ice cream is ice cream despite the flavor. Dark Chocolate has less sugar than most chocolate, but ice cream will have carbs from milk, added sugar and chocolate.
If it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true. Why is that always true??? | 
04-03-2008, 05:46 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cape Coral, Florida
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by solox316 Never heard something like this about ice cream... The article mentions that low-fat ice cream is even a better choice. Typically low-fat = more sugar in products like ice cream... I would take it with a grain of salt, unless someone else knows something... | That's what I was thinking myself. Anything "fat free" seems to have a ridiculous amount of added sugar in it. | 
04-03-2008, 05:57 PM
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| | | tashia,
if you need a good chocolate fix try hood calorie count chocolate milk....really yummy i have a cup of it hot most mornings...i know not a cold treat but a treat...for ice cream make home made 2 cups half and half, 1-2 tsp vanilla and 1/2 cup splenda....a dovier ice cream maker works great....you can 1/2 it easy...using splenda putting in the freezer it freezes harder...but fresh it is like regular...i do have a chocolate recipe some where if you want it....
but when chocolate ice cream is proven healthy..sign me up!!!
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04-03-2008, 06:06 PM
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| | | Anyone want my homemade double Dove bar dark chocolate ice cream recipe?
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04-03-2008, 06:51 PM
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| | | evermont...of course!! and if its dark chocolate it has to be healthy!!!
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04-03-2008, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by notme I would forget this silliness Tashia. I wish it were true, but ice cream is ice cream despite the flavor. Dark Chocolate has less sugar than most chocolate, but ice cream will have carbs from milk, added sugar and chocolate. | Right, basically, dark chocolate just has less added sugar than milk chocolate which is why it doesn't affect your blood glucose as much. You can go to the store and buy 85% dark chocolate that only has like 13 carbs for a 2 oz bar. Ice cream has carbs from milk and added sugar no matter what flavor it is.
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04-03-2008, 07:58 PM
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| | | half and half which i use to make ice cream (only made it twice since diagnosed in may) i used splenda...the half and half has 8 carbs per 1/2 cup...the unsweetened cocoa which i have used for chocolate ice cream in the past has 3 carb per 1 TBS and 1 fiber...not too bad for an special treat....i was pleased it turned out so good....homemade has a nice fresh taste in my opinion! i am going to try a peppermint ice cream which was a favorite i used to make....
susan
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04-03-2008, 08:06 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kapiti, New Zealand
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| | Ice cream to prevent diabetes? I don't think so!
That wasn't printed on April Fools Day was it?
Sounds to me like someone took a study, read it sideways, twisted the good bits around, and made stuff up just so they could write an interesting article. In the mean time anyone reading that could be damaging their health if they believe it!
Anything in small amounts is ok when your blood sugar isn't already high... but we're all better off avoiding stuff like that most of the time.
Dark chocolate is good if you can get a good one (A real one as opposed to one that just tastes dark). A couple of squares after a meal can help to ward off the need for sweet stuff, and dark choc has a much lower GI so isn't as bad for our BGs
Ice cream also has a lower GI than a lot of 'treat' foods - anything high fat is slower to digest so a little easier on the BGs.
So they digest slower, they cause less damage - that does NOT mean they're actually good for us!
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04-03-2008, 10:38 PM
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| | | Oh susan, it sound so good, but the fat in half and half is too much for me to eat! It is bad enough I use a couple of teaspoons in my coffee. I can't imagine eating a bowl of this. There are 40 calories in 2 teaspoons of half and half. | 
04-03-2008, 10:57 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA, NJ
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| | | I'm So Disillusioned My Lantus has been raised several times; now it's 25 units in the morning and 25 at night. Plus Metformin 1000mg 2/day. Is my dosage of Lantus high? Anyway, my sugar will NOT come down! It's usually hovering around 180 or so, and in the mid-200's a couple of hours after I eat. I AM being careful -- what am I doing wrong? Is there ANYTHING that's safe for me to eat? I tried the Glucerna cereal and it raised my sugar, so even that's out. I'm just about living on frozen veggies (broccoli, carrots and cauliflower) and I'm SO TIRED of them. Only meat I really like is chicken or a good old-fashioned hamburger WITHOUT the bread/roll. Oh, I also eat fish often. Is anyone on a higher dosage of Lantus than I am? I have no idea what the average dose of that is. ****, I feel down.
Oh, Jan B. -- where have you been? I haven't heard from you; I hope everything's okay. | 
04-03-2008, 10:59 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA, NJ
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| | | Oh, One More Question Since my sugar is often in the 200's, does that mean I'll die soon? I'm scared! | 
04-04-2008, 09:33 AM
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| | | Sheralyn, you're not going to die soon. However, it does sound like you need to make an appointment with your doctor to talk about your medication and insulin and see what he/she can suggest as far as changes go. Are you exercising? Even a 15-minute walk can really help. I'm not on insulin, but from what I've read here, when things start to go haywire with your control, it's time to make some changes somewhere, and hopefully, your doctor can help you do this.
You're doing healthy things for yourself and that's great. Makes it a lot easier on you and your doc. I know it's tough, but do try to stay positive. You're going to be OK.
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