[morrisma]

Originally Posted by Eddy

Some people combine ice skating with combat sports. It's called "hockey".

Yes, did you see that poor Panthers forward Zednik who got his carotid slashed? Yikes, combat indeed and friendly fire at that!

Watching the exercise portion of this thread with interest. I did a lot of spinning classes last winter where the sadistic instructor tried to kill us for an hour after which we we would all thank her and sign up for the next class. Turns out the edge of anaerobic exercise was very good for my bgs even a day later. Wasn't experimenting as carefully as Penguin here so I will be checking back on his results.
Mike

[Ronin]

Hi FearThePenguin!

I have to echo the thought that you may not be a Type-2 but a Type-1.5. There is one way to know for certain. That is to have your C-Peptide level checked. This can be an independent test (Fasting C-Peptide) or combined with an Oral Glucose Tolerance Test (OGTT). In either case it will determine just how much insulin your pancreas is secreting into your blood stream.

While Blue Sky's assertions about Insulin Resistance are true for most adult onset cases of Diabetes, we are seeing more very active people being diagnosed by MD's who don't check C-Peptide levels.

Now, to your initial question: As a very avid and active tandem bicyclist I know that most of my rides result in a temporary elevation of my BG levels. This is largely due to the intensity of the rides which pretty much exhaust the supply of glucose in my body causing a liver dump of additional glucose which, given my low insulin production, stays up a bit longer than a person with a higher output pancreas would have elevated levels.

Since you like combative sports it is very likely that you train very hard when you train and probably trigger that glucose dump from your liver. Also the adrenilin you secrete causes liver dumps.

I have, on occasion, tested myself following a moderate walk -- much to my pleasure my BG is almost always down into the 70's after a moderate walk. However, I get little-to-no pleasure from a moderate walk, but I get a kick out of a hard tandem ride. I have the feeiling you have the same response to your training regimine.

[FearThePenguin]

Hehe, yeah walking is a real pleasure if I'm with my wife or my son, but I end up feeling like I wasted an hour if it's for my exercise. To echo what some folks have been suggesting, I'm setting up an appointment with an endo in the area to see about getting a bit more testing done while I wait to get back with my other Doctor. My Mom is a Dr (also a diabetic) and has suggested the same tests. Side note, today was the first day of aerobic exercise and I think I have a blip in the system. My expectation was that my numbers would be lower or the same as when I started, but they were in fact 40 points higher! My suspicion is that I was a bit dehydrated (I sweat like a pig), so we'll see how it turns out.

[matingara]

Originally Posted by Handybear

I know I am stirring up the pot with this, but I never exercise more than 30 minutes at a time and not strenuously.
I read an article and it said that you shouldn't stress the body if you are type 2.
I have found that 30 minutes of walking, or light weight lifting will drop my number up to 15 points. Which is why I do my exercise 1/2 hour after my evening meal. It works every time.
I am currently maintaing a 14 day bg average of 85.

WOW!!! that is a great bg average! i assume you do post prandials as well? or is this a fasting average?

my 14 day fasting bgl hovers in the 95-106 (5.3-5.9) range.

my 14 day "all readings" bgl is in the 104-112 range.

-- joel.

[FearThePenguin]

holy beans, what a day! Today is day two of the aerobic exercise and, sure enough, my BGs dropped significantly after working out.
Today's workout was pretty sterile, interval jogging for 30 minutes and then some jump rope followed by some kick boxing with targets. Tried to keep the heart rate in the right range and did a fairly good job, but I did have to boost it up a little at the end because it was a nice cold day and I LOVE to stand outside after working out and just watch the steam roll off of me. It's ridiculously narcissistic, but fun. I went into the gym at 135 (6 hours from my last meal, 3 from my last snack) and walked out at 95! I haven't been at 95 for months! Now, shortly after eating a reasonable meal, I was at 270, but that 95 sure was neat to see I feel like I'm on the precipice of finding a really good balance for myself and I may just be able to stay off the meds after all! We'll see.

[Eddy]

Originally Posted by morrisma

Yes, did you see that poor Panthers forward Zednik who got his carotid slashed? Yikes, combat indeed and friendly fire at that!

Ouch. I think that goes under the "having a bad day" column.

Originally Posted by morrisma

Watching the exercise portion of this thread with interest. I did a lot of spinning classes last winter where the sadistic instructor tried to kill us for an hour after which we we would all thank her and sign up for the next class. Turns out the edge of anaerobic exercise was very good for my bgs even a day later. Wasn't experimenting as carefully as Penguin here so I will be checking back on his results.

I've also been taking a keen interest in various exercise threads. Walking (aerobic) definitely drops me. After a couple wicked scares, I've sort of put exercise on "hold"... but I would like to start working out.

Scare #1, Dec 3: 113 mg/dL + 12 oz Sprite = 24 mg/dL after only 15 minutes walking. No bolus IOB.

Scare #2, Dec 24: 150 mg/dL after minor exercise + normal correction + go to sleep = awaken below meter's 20 mg/dL detection level.

(FWIW, both involved being out in the cold... which I have since found drops me significantly. Shoveling snow in the cold? Up to 10 mg/dL drop per minute.)

Maybe I need to "bite the bullet", cut my Lantus by 15% or 20%, and start working out. And, no, I don't want to switch from MDI to pumping.

[FearThePenguin]

Interesting development. I took great pains today to keep myself in my aerobic heartrate zone, but I was able to spend an extra long time at the gym. So my usual 45 minute routine became an hour and 40 minute routine. When I left the gym, my numbers looked just like I had done my full anaerobic routine. Pushed it too hard I guess.