[shiftzor]

Hey, I am considering starting to use whey protein again (before i was not diabetic), its natural supplement. I was a bit hesitant because I know a lot of these protein powders aren’t very good for you due to chemicals and things. Has anyone used them and what are people’s opinions on them? I could just eat tuna instead but it’s expensive.

[BlueSky]

I don't think chemicals are a problem. Whey protein is a by-product from cheese manufacture, and the good brands are very pure sources of protein. A criticism I have heard is that the dehydration process results in these protein powders containing oxidized cholesterol, which is inflammatory and increases heart disease risk. Some experts are promoting powdered soy protein because of this. The problem is that the phyto estrogens in soy make building muscle more difficult, which kinda defeats the purpose. . Whey protein has worked well for me. Building muscle had always evaded me, until I started using the stuff after workouts.

[shiftzor]

Out of interest what are the good brands? Last time i just got mine from a supplement shop.

[BlueSky]

Read what it says on the packaging. You get whey protein isolate and whey protein concentrate products. The isolate products are more pure (usually 90% protein) and have had almost all the fat, cholesterol and lactose removed. The concentrate products are cheaper and less pure (about 80% protein). They are also made using cheaper heat intensive processes that denture the protein, making it less bio-available. You should get better results from the isolate products. As usual, you get what you pay for in this game .

[1type2go]

chk this out and get something close to it or chk it on Optimum classic nutrition also look for branched chain amino's.
Only use when you cant eat enough,or with in half an hour of physical activity.I'd say only once a day.You don't want to depend on these.The Most important is carbs for re fueling
and the protein powders are short lived is the body (synthesized).Your best bet for everyone is to sip for a duration. chkhttp://websites.uk-plc.net/247Weight/products/Whey_Cooler.htm
Without getting Tech.on ya

you can do it if you want to try ...
I need a smiley your CHEESE

[kstreeter513]

My advice is to just be careful. Too much protein causes high nitrogen levels in the blood which is hard for the kidneys to filter. We are already at a high risk for kidney problems later in life anyway. Besides, most people get way more protein than they need. Protein should only make up 10% of the diet for sedentary adults (50 g/protein daily on a 2000 kcal diet), or 15% for active individuals/athletes.

[muse]

I would have to disagree about whey protein. The body only uses protein to build and repair, and if it is a significant part of your diet, you will gain muscle mass as you lose weight. Muscle burns calories, fat does not. So, if you increase muscle mass, you are making your metabolism run faster. For a diabetic, that translates into lower blood sugar readings.

It also helps to lower the glycemic index of anything you eat with it.

So, work with your doctor. If your doctor says whey protein is safe for you, then by all means, add it to your diet. It is pure protein, no fat, and very few carbs.

In my own case, I started out weighing 283, with 100 pounds of muscle mass. Now, after being on 100gm protein, 100 gm carbs, and 30-40gm fat (including omega 3's) - now I have 130 pounds of muscle mass and I weigh 170. That extra 30 pounds of muscle mass burns 390 calories per day more than I burned when I weighed 283.

Muscle rules.

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[muse]

I try to avoid the artificial sweeteners and flavors but believe me, the diabetes (if uncontrolled) will kill you a lot faster than the artificial flavors and sweeteners. But there are good brands of whey protein out there that are all natural.

The one I like is MRM Whey Pumped Dutch Chocolate.

I use a Stevia Balance packet with it, as I like things a little sweeter. Stevia Balance is a product from NOW foods.

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by kstreeter513

... most people get way more protein than they need. Protein should only make up 10% of the diet for sedentary adults (50 g/protein daily on a 2000 kcal diet)...

I am not so sure about that. For your body to satisfy its amino acid requirements and to retain lean muscle mass, you need about 1 gram of protein for each Kg of body weight, every day. Someone on a 2,000kcal diet would probably weigh 75+ Kg, and 50 grams of protein a day is not enough. Eating normally, I don't get enough protein. I normally get about 25grams of protein for breakfast and for supper, and about 15 grams of protein for lunch. That leaves me 10 grams short of my daily requirement.

I became increasingly aware of losing muscle over the years, which is why I started using protein shakes. And they definitely helped me turn the situation around. I agree that people with kidney disease need to be careful. But healthy kidneys will happily process as much protein as you care to eat, without taking any strain. Most people lose muscle and gain fat as they age, but this doesn't have to happen.

[1type2go]

Yes
As with all diabetics their going to have blood chemistry done and if you use alot of protein (as I have) my Dr. could tell .......but at no harm to me! I did cut back on the powder when I figured out I was eating enough for my workouts.


Anybody could try a morning diet of two pieces of whole grain toast with ??? anything on it and two or more egg whites and an egg

with the same state of health same dose in the AM then eat two pieces of whole grain toast with ???anything on it = higher BG

Try it I,you'll like it !

[sedita]

Shiftzor, I'll throw out Natures Best Isopure protein as a decent brand. This is what I use. Mainly because it has zero grams of carbs. Although, I do have to bolus to cover such a large amount of protein if I take a full serving. Usually, for large protein intake I will bolus at 75% the rate I would normally bolus if I were bolusing for carbs. I think the cookies and cream, and strawberry flavors taste pretty good.

[1type2go]

There are good, better, best, in each category ,complex,isolate and meal replacement products.
Pls see what you are paying for and or paying for and not necessary to you.
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