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06-22-2008, 03:28 PM
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| | Ohio really has some nuts, and some diabetics!!!! Newly diagnosed, last week. Interested in finding out more about Dawn Syndrome.. can you help me some!!?!!! | 
06-22-2008, 04:01 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas, US
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| | Let's see... where to start?! site:diabetesforums.com (dp|"dawn phenomenon") - Google Search
Hope this helps. I've not experienced DP, so I can't really chime in.
__________________ Eddy DXed 2007/04 = advanced-stage DKA, A1c of 12.9%, and BMI of 21.3 post-DX A1c = 5.4% @ 2008/07; 5.2% @ 2008/04; 5.3% @ 2007/12; 5.3% @ 2007/08 c-peptide = 0.0% @ 2008/07 current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24 basal = 2U human N @ 0630, 5U detemir @ 0630, 11U detemir @ 1200, 17U detemir @ 2030 bolus = 1:15 I:C ratio; varying mix of aspart, human R, human N
not a low-CHO eater... not even close!
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06-22-2008, 04:13 PM
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| | I admit I have been called "a nut" by some people, but I honestly think not all of the members from Ohio are nuts!  From one nut to another, welcome to the forum.
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9/25/07 A1C 6.0 
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06-22-2008, 04:36 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Royal Oak, Michigan
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Originally Posted by Penny I admit I have been called "a nut" by some people, but I honestly think not all of the members from Ohio are nuts!  From one nut to another, welcome to the forum. | I did move out of Ohio because of the nuts. I think they are called Buckeyes... (and their fans)
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Type 1 Est.1984
MM 722 and CGMS
Humalog & Symlin
a1c 6.8 (5.12.08) 7.2 (6.26.08) 6.9 (7.24.08)
Vitrectomies 5/07 & 7/07
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06-22-2008, 05:08 PM
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| | | thank ya!! Preble County nut here!! | 
06-22-2008, 05:27 PM
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| | | thank you. I found some at mayo clinic that was interesteing. I wanted facts, just not comments... still trying to figure this all out. being a medical professional, not heard alot about this, so I wanted to check it out, . being a medical professional is hard, when you find out you really don't know as much as you thgouht you did...lol | 
06-22-2008, 05:46 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas, US
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Originally Posted by julienjoe213 thank you. I found some at mayo clinic that was interesteing. I wanted facts, just not comments... still trying to figure this all out. being a medical professional, not heard alot about this, so I wanted to check it out, . being a medical professional is hard, when you find out you really don't know as much as you thgouht you did...lol | Oh oh. Flogging and cursing medical professionals is a favorite DF pastime. 
__________________ Eddy DXed 2007/04 = advanced-stage DKA, A1c of 12.9%, and BMI of 21.3 post-DX A1c = 5.4% @ 2008/07; 5.2% @ 2008/04; 5.3% @ 2007/12; 5.3% @ 2007/08 c-peptide = 0.0% @ 2008/07 current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24 basal = 2U human N @ 0630, 5U detemir @ 0630, 11U detemir @ 1200, 17U detemir @ 2030 bolus = 1:15 I:C ratio; varying mix of aspart, human R, human N
not a low-CHO eater... not even close!
last updated 2008/08/18 | 
06-22-2008, 06:59 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Columbus, OH
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Originally Posted by RobiJo I did move out of Ohio because of the nuts. I think they are called Buckeyes... (and their fans) | We miss you, but we'll be see you again the last game of the season  | 
06-22-2008, 07:09 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Royal Oak, Michigan
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Originally Posted by moorejames We miss you, but we'll be see you again the last game of the season  | but of course!  It wouldn't be November without it!
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Type 1 Est.1984
MM 722 and CGMS
Humalog & Symlin
a1c 6.8 (5.12.08) 7.2 (6.26.08) 6.9 (7.24.08)
Vitrectomies 5/07 & 7/07
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06-22-2008, 07:38 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 127
| | | Dawn effect is a hard one. But here are two suggestions that I've found that do help the issue.
1. glass of wine at night (theory is to keep liver busy so it won't pump out extra glucose in the AM)
2. snack with mix of carb and protein for same reason. The ratio of carb to protein varies from person to person.
don't feel bad - 9 out of 10 docs don't know much about diabetes.
Have you found these books yet?
Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution
Carlton Frederick's New low blood sugar and you (I know it's not about diabetes but has good and detailed info on blood sugar and what it does to your body - also has good recipes that would be great for the diabetic) the diet proposed treats both low and high blood sugar.
I hope you will post often - your medical knowledge would be very helpful, and also to get perspective from the other side would be good to.
Welcome
__________________ Ellie "It's not what we have in our life, but who we have in our life that counts." J.M. Laurence Jan 08 6.0
April 08 6.2
July 08 6.5
No meds (right now)
No grain
No chemicals
Vitamins, lots of exercise | 
06-23-2008, 09:13 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mind -Langhorne PA Heart - The Shenandoah Valley
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Originally Posted by julienjoe213 thank you. I found some at mayo clinic that was interesteing. I wanted facts, just not comments... still trying to figure this all out. being a medical professional, not heard alot about this, so I wanted to check it out, . being a medical professional is hard, when you find out you really don't know as much as you thgouht you did...lol | Facts
The Dawn effect occurs in everybody its nature way of preparing us for the day about 1 to 2 hours before you wake your dear liver injects you with glucose. In a person without diabetes it just gives you a little energy to start the day, With someone with diabetes it makes our bg levels high and starts out our the day on a sour note. They say Byetta and Januvia help with this as well but I have taken both and neither seems to help much in this regard. Don't get me wrong Byetta is the best diabetes drug that I have taken so far but it has not made my morning bg go down yet. When I had my a1c done they did a fasting bg and it was 86 so I guess it could be the meter not working that early in the morning  . You can try some of the tricks that we diabetics have learned over the years but you may need some meds to see any improvement. Drink Alcohol before bed or eat some nuts. make sure your blood sugar is a little high before bed. While there are several tricks that work they don't work all the time and like the Borg your liver adapts and seems to find ways around the tricks.
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