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Old 07-11-2008, 05:43 AM
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We don't need carbs. That is fact. We will have a tough time consuming no carbs. The no carb diet like Atkins was to flush the surplus you already have. That's why it was an initial period only. Then you go low carb, and low carb is different for different people. Most people are not active for more than an hour a day. So if you have your carbs just prior to your burst of energy, they will burn quickly and give you more energy. The reality is that for many, that intense period of activity would not even be a warmup for a truly active person. I see people doing carb loading for 5k fun runs, it's so funny. It's like you do a little sweating and you're sucking down gatorade. Especially kids who are already consuming many times the sodium they need even without the gatorade.
We all should have a lower than average carb intake. We should not mega meal.
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:51 AM
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Kristyn28,

Welcome. It actually is a good thing that you were diagnosed early, it gives you a real opportunity to take care of yourself. You will learn a lot over the coming months, and this forum can really be helpful. There are lots of knowledgable people here who can understand what you are going through. You will get a hang of the diet thing. Do your best to significantly reduce your carbs, just start with the most basic things. Cut sugar, breads, pasta, potato and mostly things that are white. You will still have lots things to eat, but it will very likely make a big difference. It will take some time to learn about this, just give it some time.

Again, welcome to the forum
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:02 PM
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Hello! my name is Kristy, I found this forum when i did a yahoo search. I hope this site helps me. Yesterday i was pretty much dianosed as a Pre-diabetic.
The doctor was really confusing me, and it seemed that he wasnt sure what he was talking about.
He told me to cut out ALL CARBS. No sugar or starch, it seemed to me that he didnt want me to eat anything under the carb umbrella, but dairy and meat were okay.
I get a sudden spike in BS, then a sudden crash. I am tired all the time, i take a nap and i still dont want to get up, and there are mornings that i sleep 7-9 hours and i still have no energy to get out of bed.
He also said that i am not at the point of having to test at all, but i dont belive him, when i get the money i plan on doing it anyway.
Kristy
First thing you need to do is get a doctor that has a clue. There are two things that maybe making you sleepy really high bg reading above 200 or not enough carbs. A lot of misinformed people believe you eat what ever
carbs you want then there are the ones who say eat no carbs. To treat diabetes you need to find a happy medium. your brain needs glucose to function if you dont consume it your liver will produce glucose its called gluconeogenesis. Here are a few tips they work for me and it will give you a starting point.

I exercise at least a half hour every day. .
• ½ hour on the stationary bike
• ½ little Gazelle
• Long walk
• Hide and seek with the boys does the trick.



I Test: Mornings and before driving, 2 hours after meals and before bed.


My bg goals
Morning below 130 -----------------------ideal around 95 - 110
2 hours after meals below 140 ---------ideal below 120
Before bed below 140--------------------ideal 120 to 130
I Never go to bed with bg below a 100 when I wake up my bg will be =>130.
As I gain more control the numbers should get tighter.

To determine carbs I subtract fiber from the total carbs. I also subtract artificial sweeteners.
sugar alcohol count half the listed carbs If the label says 9 mgs sugar alcohol then you Subtract 4.5 mgs from total carbs.

Some Fats are good we need them for healthy cholesterol. Mono and poly are good.
Trans fat and saturated fat are bad.

I do not eat Low fat foods they are not good for type 2 diabetes because they replace fat with sugars which makes them high carb.

I eat as little sugar as I can not because they effect bg worse then other carbs but because sugar has no nutritional value so why eat it.

I don’t eat candy

Foods I can eat;

Meat = Beef, chicken, fish broiled or baked, eggs, hotdogs(all beef), Hamburgers, and Lamb,

Nuts - most nuts are low in carbs, peanuts, walnuts, and almonds any that have total carbs of less then 10g. I eat cashews at bed time. If I eat a meal that I would have in the past had fries or chips with I substitute peanuts.

Spreads I buy no sugar added jelly or I buy one of several reduced sugar brands, no sugar added Peanut butter – good for cholesterol

vegetables = Small kernel corn on the cob 1 ear per meal. I eat lots of Green beans it raises good cholesterol. I can eat squash, zucchini, celery, Tomatoes Green peppers, pickles (half sours),
cucumbers

I eat Sugar free ice cream or no sugar added if I go to Brusters(icecream place)., Sugar free jell-o
Carb smart ice cream has 12 carbs per serving once you subtract the fiber and splenda it only has 4 carbs.

I eat Chocolate that has a cocoa % >= 60% or low carb chocolate

Breads = I eat whole grain or low carb whole grain breads. I try to find bread that has less then 7 grams of carbs per slice. Pepperidge farms have several brands in the 5g per slice range.

Pasta = I eat whole grain: “Dreamfields”, Another brand that I like more is “Barilla Plus” whole grain pasta the penne pasta is pretty good. A lot of restaurants offer whole grain pasta.

Reward for sticking to life style:
I eat pizza at least twice a month
I eat at five guys burgers at least twice a month.
I eat popcorn at the theatre and since I have twin three year old boys I don’t get there much.


Rice = I eat brown rice, or wild rice

sodas = I drink diet only

I Drink lots of Water dehydration and diabetes don’t go well together.

* Avoid high carb food any anything with a lot of refined sugar or white flour

* Fruit = I Limit the amount of fruit I eat because they all have a lot of sugar and I have acid reflux brought on by the high sugar content in the stomach due to 9 months of bgs over 500
I eat apples (granny smiths), and tomatoes (well I did until the recent warnings)

Read this book it has helped a lot:

Sugar-buster’s
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Old 07-12-2008, 07:16 PM
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Kristy, you do need carbs, it's a matter of finding a balance. If you go carb free, I would think that when you eat some later that you won't tolerate them very well. Aside from diabetes, did your Doctor have any other reason for saying to eat zero carbs?[/quote]


The doctor said no sugar, no starch and anything i eat needs to be less than 5g carbs, but then i have a habit of seeing something for 1g, and eating a ton (sunflower seeds, peanuts, cheese) I found that in my salad, the thing that had the most Carbs was the lettuce (crazy)
I bought a *sidekick* tonight so tomarrow i hope to start testing.
The Doc may have said NO CARB because my numbers were so crazy on the test.
Kristy
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:06 AM
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"ZERO CARBS" is almost impossible. I am losing weight on 45gms a day. I am actually allowed more but am keeping my BS level on 45 so why add something I do not need? As above try to find a diabetes educator or class to attend to better understand about best selection of carbs.
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