[cynthiazinn]

End stage renal is after the kidneys have completely shut down and no longer have any ability to filter toxins from the blood, like alcohol, to form urine. This person must be on daily or continuous hemodialysis, a method that uses a machine to filter the blood. If the person is not eligible for a transplant they will likely die within 6 months. About 40% of patients with end stage renal are diabetic, making it a major complication of diabetes. The others are due to hypertension and rarely, other causes. As diabetics we should not be putting extra strain on our kidneys with drugs and alcohol. Remember that anything you put in your body will ultimatley be filtered by your kidneys, which are already strained with filtering your increased glucose.

[susieq214]

Hi all
I have been drinking 2-3 glasses of wine every night for years. Went to doc a couple of weeks ago, A1C was 9, up from a 7 last time. Dropped the wine completely, joined Calorie King, started counting carbs and walking. Doc wanted to put me on insulin, and I asked him for 3 months to get my act together. AM fasting reading already went from 188 to 120. I am done with wine for now. I may have a glass on a special occasion but am no longer stocking it in the house as it is too much of a temptation for me. I thought I needed it to make me sleep but I sleep much better now without it. My sister also laid off the wine and has lost most of her belly fat in 4 months (also she's on Weight Watcher's) and went from prediabetic to normal. I would rather stay away from stuff that makes me gain weight than take more meds. Just my opinion but it's working for me.

[matingara]

Originally Posted by cynthiazinn

As diabetics we should not be putting extra strain on our kidneys with drugs and alcohol. Remember that anything you put in your body will ultimatley be filtered by your kidneys, which are already strained with filtering your increased glucose.

Cynthia, Hi, These statements seem a tad on the "FUD"dy side to me.

but i may be completely wrong.

It is not diabetes that puts strain on the kidneys, rather it is constantly high blood sugars. If a diabetic has well controlled BGLs then there is no reason why the kidneys should be "strained with filtering your increased glucose".

BTW, i do not drink alcohol and my BP (which i measure several times a week) is normally around 100/70. that does not mean, however, that i do not get my kidney function checked regularly.



-- Joel.

[Abra]

SusieQ, I just want to point out that you changed a number of variables at once, the antithesis of good science. You stopped drinking wine, started counting carbs, and started walking, all at the same time. Since the latter two are almost guaranteed to drop your BG, you have no way of knowing the effect of the wine.

[matingara]

Originally Posted by Abra

SusieQ, I just want to point out that you changed a number of variables at once, the antithesis of good science. You stopped drinking wine, started counting carbs, and started walking, all at the same time. Since the latter two are almost guaranteed to drop your BG, you have no way of knowing the effect of the wine.

i was going to say the same thing!!!

[matingara]

Originally Posted by susieq214

Doc wanted to put me on insulin, and I asked him for 3 months to get my act together. AM fasting reading already went from 188 to 120.

i think that avoiding insulin so you can "get your act together" are not related goals.

insulin is a great tool to help manage BGLs. it isn't an end-game death sentence.

this is not an "either/or" situation. i.e. "Either you get your act together OR you WILL have to start taking insulin".

why not adopt insulin as a tool to help you get your act together? it could make things a lot easier for you!

just my opinion.



-- Joel.

[lark 27]

Originally Posted by Amanda84

Cynthiazinn, what is end stage renal? I mean, what happens and how soon before you notice anything wrong? Although diabetes an insidious disease and complications slowly creep up.
Ak3000 good for you, never any booze.
My mother was very anti- alcohol which made me want to drink as well but am getting better in the last few days - a whole lot better. Genie, keep thinking what you said about maybe that one glass one glass too many. Am using it as a mantra!

Good for you Amanda to take Genie's comment and turn it into a mantra if that's what is best for you. Keep up the good work!

[Pote05]

I enjoy Miller Lite and a good Crown & water on the weekends...