Type -2 cause(s)

[6 foot 3]

I've always believed that my cell receptors down regulated do to yrs of high calories and carbs which gave me type-2. But on another board forum i had a disagreement with a type-1 person who goes by the ADA (american diabete's association) info that high carbs do not cause type-2 .I mean high carbs leads to insulin resistance which then leads to type-2...Am i correct on this.....

[DesertDiabetic]

I really hate to agree with the ADA on anything, I have heard nothing saying that high carbs cause diabetes. They have identified a 'trigger' in obese people for type 2 diabetes. And there is genetics to consider.

I don't see where high carbs themselves leads to diabetes. Maybe high carbs leads to becoming over-weight - that is not a direct link to type 2. All type 2's are not over-weight. True, not being over-weight does not mean that you have not consumed excessive carbs in your life.

I don't believe you will find much of a following on your carbs lead to diabetes theory...... Not a direct link anyway.\

I just re-read your post - insulin resistance is related to excessive weight - not carb intake. Reducing carbs does reduce insulin resistance by you loosing weight.

[DeusXM]

A high carb diet won't make you diabetic - after all, it's nonsense that 'eating lots of sweets' makes you diabetic, and that's just another form of high carbs. However, if you have a diet that is high in carbs, it is going to be high in calories, and if you're not exercising them off, you're going to get fat very quickly. And being overweight can cause T2 diabetes.

[JediSkipdogg]

And being overweight can cause T2 diabetes.

Which still leads me to my question that never truely gets answered. If a person gets their weight to say 350 lbs and becomes heavily insulin resistant to the point of needing meds (the same ones type 2 take), when they lose the weight and go off the meds, do they then become non-diabetic? Or would it be misdiagnosis if they were diagnosed diabetic when put on the meds?

[DesertDiabetic]

No, there is no cure. Once you get insulin resistant you stay there. What they mean by reversing it is when you get where you can control it with diet and exercise without meds. If you eat a potato your blood gluscose goes sky high even if you lost all the extra weight.

[DesertDiabetic]

I should add that you do not get insulin resistant because of weight just because of the weight. You get damaged because of the weight - that damage is insulin resistence.

[Mister Q]

If it was that simple to prove a link they would be all over it I am sure.

[6 foot 3]

No, there is no cure. Once you get insulin resistant you stay there. What they mean by reversing it is when you get where you can control it with diet and exercise without meds.How true you are about that statement Desert...Hey thats fine i was in the wrong about the question i posed as its all a learning experience so i owe him an apology ..cool...Also one more thing is that i have been thin most of my life so weight has never been an issue ...In fact i was into bodybuilding and ate tons of calories and carbs to get bigger and now im paying the price. Glad i found you guys on this forum so i know theres others thats been there on what i've been thru with type-2 and neuropathy and all although again strict carb control has helped me big time ... Thanks !!

[John Earle]

I'm fairly new to diabetes so anything I say is quite suspect. However, I have done an enormous amount of reading since being diagnosed T2 in April of this year. "As I Understand It";
1. No one knows what causes diabetes although some believe that it is genetic.
2. Insulin resistance is caused by having large amounts of insulin in your system and some speculate that visceral fat also plays a role.
3. Huge spikes of insulin are caused by having large amounts of carbs as protien is digested much more slowly and fats supposedly do not trigger insulin.
4. One role of insulin is to store excess glucose as fat.
I was captain of the United States Marine Corps power lifting team at Headquarters U.S. Marine Corps in Alexandria Virginia in the late 70's and early 80's. We ate huge amounts of carbs, lifted huge amounts of weights, and I ran between 5 and 15 miles each day, 7 days a week. When I got out of the Corps, I cut back drastically on the carbs but did not cut all of the volume. I never did understand why I kept gaining weight but it makes a lot more sense now. Now I am on Atkins and have lost 38# so far. Just 110 to go.

[Roy Gardiner]

I was captain of the United States Marine Corps power lifting team at .... Now I am on Atkins and have lost 38# so far. Just 110 to go. Much as I hate to disagree with anyone with such qualifications, I'm about 6,000 miles away so I'll risk it :).

I'd have a care with the Atkins, I reckon it isn't safe because it's so extreme. Of course, please check it out, don't take my word for it