fruit?

[The Lorax]

Can someone please advise me how friut fits into a healthy mealplan?

My bg levels have been good, as I feel like I've done well in my first month of being a type 2. I've got the bg levels in the mid 80's, elevated a little when the right food isn't present. I was 146 1.5 hours after a meal of rice and fish on a canoe camping trip and back down in the low 90's by morning.

Ok...the tuna fish on oat bran bread is getting kind of old. I'm concerned about fruit intake but I'm afraid of the natural sugars in it. What can I do?

[Cyborg]

Take a look at a Glycemic Index chart. Some fruits don't raise bg that much, such as cherries, apples, etc. I like blueberries...

[Brouts]

If you are wondering how many carbs are in fruit, this what I do calculate the carbs. in fruit.

I weigh the piece or fruit on a scale, then caluclate the weight of the fruit multiplyed by the carb. factor. I know it sounds complicated but its not.

Example: if an apple weighed 130g. multiply by the carb factor wich for an apple is 0.13
130*0.13 = 16.9 so that apple is 16g of carb. here is list "carb. factors" for different fruits.
Apple-0.13 Banana-0.20 Pears-0.12 Green graps-0.14 Rasberries-0.07 Strawberries-0.04 Oranges-0.10

I hope that helps you

[poodlebone]

If you are wondering how many carbs are in fruit, this what I do calculate the carbs. in fruit.

I weigh the piece or fruit on a scale, then caluclate the weight of the fruit multiplyed by the carb. factor. I know it sounds complicated but its not.

Example: if an apple weighed 130g. multiply by the carb factor wich for an apple is 0.13
130*0.13 = 16.9 so that apple is 16g of carb. here is list "carb. factors" for different fruits.
Apple-0.13 Banana-0.20 Pears-0.12 Green graps-0.14 Rasberries-0.07 Strawberries-0.04 Oranges-0.10

I hope that helps you

Is there a list of these carb factors anywhere, for fruit & other food? I vaguely remember hearing about them at a Minimed class, where the people running it had a scale and a list of different foods they were weighing.

I'm surprised apples & green grapes are so close. Grapes tend to shoot me much higher than apples. I know most berries are pretty low. You can eat a ton of strawberries for not a lot of carbs.

[Cyborg]

I've never heard of these carb factors for fruit. I'm interested in learning more. Are they based on Glycemic Index?

[sugarfree76]

Take a look at a Glycemic Index chart. Some fruits don't raise bg that much, such as cherries, apples, etc. I like blueberries...
I hear you.
I'm not a big fan of fruit, partially because most fruits DO raise the sugar.
All I know is that we should have about 2-3 servings a day.

[Brouts]

I have a whole list of them on paper but the list is way to big to type it all out...I can't find the list anywhere on the net. So if anyone wants to know any spacific carb. factor for whatever type of food, just sak and I will post it for you

[Cyborg]

I have a whole list of them on paper but the list is way to big to type it all out...I can't find the list anywhere on the net. So if anyone wants to know any spacific carb. factor for whatever type of food, just sak and I will post it for you

Got a scanner?

[Brouts]

Got a scanner?

no I don't have a scanner either

[gettingby]

If you are wondering how many carbs are in fruit, this what I do calculate the carbs. in fruit.

I weigh the piece or fruit on a scale, then caluclate the weight of the fruit multiplyed by the carb. factor. I know it sounds complicated but its not.

Example: if an apple weighed 130g. multiply by the carb factor wich for an apple is 0.13
130*0.13 = 16.9 so that apple is 16g of carb. here is list "carb. factors" for different fruits.
Apple-0.13 Banana-0.20 Pears-0.12 Green graps-0.14 Rasberries-0.07 Strawberries-0.04 Oranges-0.10

I hope that helps you
So, what you are saying is that it comes out to less carbs for strawberries and raspberries than it does for bananas or green grapes or am I interpreting this wrong?

[Brouts]

So, what you are saying is that it comes out to less carbs for strawberries and raspberries than it does for bananas or green grapes or am I interpreting this wrong?

yeah...surprisingly bananas and grapes are pretty high in carbs.

[poodlebone]

So, what you are saying is that it comes out to less carbs for strawberries and raspberries than it does for bananas or green grapes or am I interpreting this wrong?

If you took equivalent weights of strawberries and banana, say 3 ounces of each, the 3 oz of strawberries would have far fewer carbs than the same weight of banana. It's always better to weigh portions rather than use a measuring cup.

[gettingby]

yeah...surprisingly bananas and grapes are pretty high in carbs.
If you took equivalent weights of strawberries and banana, say 3 ounces of each, the 3 oz of strawberries would have far fewer carbs than the same weight of banana. It's always better to weigh portions rather than use a measuring cup.
Thanks. This is all good info. I actually prefer strawberries and raspberries to any other fruit.

[poodlebone]

I've never heard of these carb factors for fruit. I'm interested in learning more. Are they based on Glycemic Index?

Doesn't really seem to be based on the glycemic index, just the amount of carbs in 100g of any given food. I don't think it differentiates between types of carbs.

I just found an index of some of the carb factors in my copy of Pumping Insulin by John Walsh. Doesn't list a huge amount of foods, though. The carb factor is based on a 100g sample of each food. Bananas are .2, which means if you have 100g of banana, you've got 20g of carb. You can then apply the .2 factor. to any weight of banana.

I did a search and found this site:
http://www.medexplorer.com/nutrition/nutrition.dbm

It lists the carbs in 100g of various foods. It shows that 100g of baby carrots has 8.2g of carb. If you decide to eat 75g (by weight) of baby carrots, you'd multiply 75 X .082 to get 6.15g of carbs in your serving. You have to take the total carbs shown on that page and turn it into a decimal to get the carb factor.

I wish there was a way to print it out but you have to look up individual items on that site. Should be easy enough to make a personal list of foods you eat often, and carry it around with you. Of course, you'd still need to know the weight of what you're eating to use this so sometimes knowing the carb count by another measure (like 1/2 cup) is easier.

[Peter Lee]

I've had no problems whatsoever with apples, pears, grapes (small quantity), mandarin oranges and kiwi fruit. Bananas send my sugar right up and I use bananas as a high energy food when I am going to exercise heavily and also to get out of a low.

[george]

As everybody reacts differenlty to the various foods the simplest way is to experiment. You can get used eyeballing the quantity, eat it and measure your bs afterwards. You will easily find how you react to various types of fruits and also find out how much of each you can eat.

[The Lorax]

Thank you for all of the info. It's greatly appreciated.

[JasonSmithMT]

I use carb factors a lot to count carbs. I have made a list of my favorite foods. Throw the food on the scale and multiply by the factor, couldn't be easier. That is if you have a scale handy.

You can figure out carb factors by doing a little math from the nutrition label. I also find the USDA database useful.

Check out: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

It is a big download, but you can also download the database for use offline in various database programs. The SR18 database can be downloaded at http://www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=10093. I once taught a web application development class where I made the students use this database and have it calculate carb factors and insulin doses. It's a fun exercise for any novice web application developers out there.

Jason

[Cyborg]

I use carb factors a lot to count carbs. I have made a list of my favorite foods. Throw the food on the scale and multiply by the factor, couldn't be easier. That is if you have a scale handy.

You can figure out carb factors by doing a little math from the nutrition label. I also find the USDA database useful.

Check out: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

It is a big download, but you can also download the database for use offline in various database programs. The SR18 database can be downloaded at http://www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=10093. I once taught a web application development class where I made the students use this database and have it calculate carb factors and insulin doses. It's a fun exercise for any novice web application developers out there.

Jason

Nice links... :top:

[artemisia]

I like sweet cherries and apples because they are low on the Glycemic Index. Banana's are high.