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TxTechKimmy
06-26-2006, 07:04 AM
Maybe I just have the 'old school' mentality, but I found an air bubble in my Humalog pen this weekend. I suppose I still kinda freak out if I see a bubble and want it gone. However, I can't get the darn thing out. Have any of y'all ever experienced bubbles in your pen? I thought one of the advantages to the pen was no bubbles. :eek:

poodlebone
06-26-2006, 07:10 AM
Maybe I just have the 'old school' mentality, but I found an air bubble in my Humalog pen this weekend. I suppose I still kinda freak out if I see a bubble and want it gone. However, I can't get the darn thing out. Have any of y'all ever experienced bubbles in your pen? I thought one of the advantages to the pen was no bubbles. :eek:

I don't remember getting any bubbles in my Humalog pens, and I used to leave the needle attached all the time. I think the literature tells you not to do that because air bubbles can form but I ignored that. I'd use 2 or 3 needles for the entire pen (300 units). I guess if you can't get it out, then you don't have to worry about it getting into you and messing up your dose! Have you tried tapping the pen against the edge of a desk/table/counter?

jeggeman31
06-26-2006, 07:15 AM
Is the bubble at the top near the part that the insulin comes out? I always had bubbles with my pen but I would dial it up to 2 or 3 and get it out. Strange, however like Liz said, if it won't come out then you should not have to worry about it getting into your and messing up your dose.

corwin
06-26-2006, 07:20 AM
I have bubbles in both my lantus pen and my novo pen very often. I gave up on trying to get it out. I just make sure that when I inject it's not close to the needle so it stays in the pen and not go in my body. I seems pretty safe to me. I also keep the needle attached to the pen for a while, usually for about 3 days.

TxTechKimmy
06-26-2006, 07:28 AM
You can leave the needles attached and reuse them?? (Yes I am a newby pen user). :) I had no idea. I did try tapping it out, much the way I used to with my syringes, but the booger is stubborn.

corwin
06-26-2006, 07:46 AM
Well to be fair, you shouldn't leave it attached and every endo I met recommended detaching the needle and geting a new one for each injection. Otherwise you are risking insulin leaking and of course infection. However I find it a hassle and reuse needles all the time. It seems like a low calculated risk to me but it's your call and the level of safty that you want, that should dictate what you do.

DeusXM
06-26-2006, 07:47 AM
What you have to do is shake the pen around a bit until the bubble dislodges and floats up to the top of the pen. Then do an airshot of about 4u and that should do the trick.

TxTechKimmy
06-26-2006, 07:58 AM
Cool! Thanks for the advice on both accounts! Changing those needles is a pain. Ok..I mean it isn't THAT bad, but I'm lazy. :) I'll try that to get the bubble out.

Gangrel
06-26-2006, 10:53 AM
I'll reuse the needles, but detach them and keep them in the case.

I find if the needle is on, and you tip the pen over, insulin tends to leak out!

beveykin
06-26-2006, 03:19 PM
I try to rememver to change needles after every shot, but i din't always remeber.

If the air bubble is at the top try pushing it out 4-6 units should do it, if it's at the bottom of the pen I have always left it and never had a problem.

Simons
06-26-2006, 07:40 PM
It is nice to hear that I am not the ony person who leaves the needle on their insulin pens. I usually use one needle per cartridge and have no problem with it.
I have been type 1, insulin dependent for 64 years and have been through all the different insulins and methods.
Simons

UpNorth
06-28-2006, 07:38 AM
There is a trick i've learned from fellow pump users that also work to remove bubbles from pen. hold your pen with the needle end up, no needle attached. do a violent throw move from up to down until the bubble is at the rubber thing, put a needle on, just so it is IN the airbubble and do a 1-2 unit airshot. Should do the trick :)

rzrbks
06-28-2006, 08:08 AM
I don't worry about the bubble, it always moves to the back end of the pen and and never gets pushed out. I'm not about to waste any more insulin than I have to.

I use one needle per 3ml (300 units) on both my Lantus pen and my Novolog/NovoRapid injector.

I'm still working my way through a box of 100 that I got three years ago.:thumbsup:



All that being said, you have to do what makes you comfortable when it comes to needles and bubbles.

Gangrel
06-28-2006, 09:22 AM
how can you guys do that? I find after 3 or 4 injections, a needle gets so dull it's like pushing a nail into me!

Or maybe I'm just a wuss now that i'm 30!

Penny
06-28-2006, 09:30 AM
how can you guys do that? I find after 3 or 4 injections, a needle gets so dull it's like pushing a nail into me!

Or maybe I'm just a wuss now that i'm 30!

My insurance "team guy" just got on me for not changing my needle every time, also for not changing my lancet when I test. I was using my pen needle for all the injections in one day, changing every morning.....3 to 5 times a day. I will make an effort to change the needle more, but it doesn't seem to get dull, I think I could probably use it for several days.

rzrbks
06-28-2006, 10:40 AM
Gangrel

how can you guys do that? I find after 3 or 4 injections, a needle gets so dull it's like pushing a nail into me!


Here's your answer

Macho, macho man (macho man)
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I've got to be a macho! Ow....

Macho, macho man
I've got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man (yeah, yeah)
I've got to be a macho!

Penny
06-28-2006, 10:47 AM
Here's your answer


Honestly, I am not post padding, but.....:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

rzrbks
06-28-2006, 10:51 AM
Penny
Originally Posted by rzrbks
Here's your answer


Oi, if someone makes a statement or asks a question that needs an obvious response.................well, I can hardly not respond and still be a good member of DF, can I now?

Penny
06-28-2006, 10:54 AM
Oi, if someone makes a statement or asks a question that needs an obvious response.................well, I can hardly not respond and still be a good member of DF, can I now?

I just keep picturing you singing with the Village People.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

rzrbks
06-28-2006, 11:03 AM
I just keep picturing you singing with the Village People. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

1. You would not wish your worst enemy to be in the neighborhood when I was singing.

2. That is a side of the street I Do Not walk. As Biff Henderson, tech on the David Letterman Show, once put it.

I am a Permanently Pre-operational Transexual Lesbian


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biff_Henderson

Penny
06-28-2006, 11:12 AM
1. You would not wish your worst enemy to be in the neighborhood when I was singing.
And you still sing better than I do!
2. That is a side of the street I Do Not walk. As Biff Henderson, tech on the David Letterman Show, once put it.

I am a Permanently Pre-operational Transexual Lesbian


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biff_Henderson

You have to stop this, my husband is accusiing me of losing it...I am still :rofl: :rofl: !

Gangrel
06-28-2006, 11:54 AM
Yes, it was pretty funny. ;) I will work on my toughness, and only use ACTUAL NAILS to give my insulin. I will start with roofing nails, and work my way up to spikes!

TxTechKimmy
06-28-2006, 01:32 PM
I was having a crappy day until I read y'alls responses! I'm about to pee in my pants laughing!

rzrbks
06-28-2006, 02:11 PM
TxTechKimmy

I was having a crappy day until I read y'alls responses! I'm about to pee in my pants laughing!

Excellent!!

while an important reason for coming here is for helpful information, I find much happiness here and that always helps in dealing with any problem, much less a wonderful experience like Diabetes.

TxTechKimmy
06-28-2006, 02:21 PM
I'll drink to that!

Gangrel
06-29-2006, 07:14 AM
I'll drink to that!



*hick*.... got any extra? I ran out of red wine and beer.........