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spring
07-11-2006, 01:25 AM
The doctors used to check my injection sites when I was young, but after four years or so it seems they stopped. Mostly they just asked to see if there was any hardening from scar tissue, and I could always confirm that there was not. When I was first diagnosed (9 years ago), they mentioned fat pockets and depressions in the skin but not why they're bad and certainly didn't emphasize them the way they did scar tissue.

Probably for the last two if not three years, I've developed hypertrophy on my stomach (either side of my navel) and on both sides of my hips. Since I had sensitive arms and blood-vessely legs :rolleyes: I only "rotated" between the four spots. I figured the fat deposits developed from injecting insulin, but they're the most discreet places and especially less painful, what with fat blobs having no real nerve endings, so I just continued to inject there... :hypocrite:

NPH being old-school like it is, I've been trying to get an appointment with my endocrinologist to see about switching over to something like lantus or levemir, and with the release of my latest not-so-great A1C, I decided it was time to refresh my education. Nine years ago was a long time! (Not to mention I was only 11) and it seems that hypertrophy has quite the impact on one's ability to control glucose levels. I found this interesting study:

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/327/7411/383

The most notable bit being:
A 37 year old woman had been given a diagnosis of type 1 diabetes when she was 7 years old. She was treated with soluble insulin twice daily. She was transferred to our diabetes unit in 2000. She had experienced problems with fluctuating blood glucose concentrations, recurrent hyperglycaemia, and frequent unpredictable hypoglycaemia, despite compliance with diet and regular self monitoring of blood glucose. At her most recent annual review she was noted to have mild background retinopathy but no other microvascular or macrovascular complications of diabetes. Results of lipid, urea and electrolytes, and thyroid function tests were normal, but her glycated haemoglobin was 9.1% (normal range 3.6% to 5.1%). She was treated with Human Actrapid (Novo Nordisk) at a total daily dose of 30 units a day and Human Insulatard (Novo Nordisk) 26 units at night, both administered through a pen device. After her latest annual review she was referred to the diabetes specialist nurse for further follow up in an attempt to improve her glycaemic control.

The diabetes specialist nurse noted that she had fluctuating blood sugar concentrations, ranging from 2.0 mmol/l to 18.9 mmol/l, and unpredictable hypoglycaemic episodes occurring three or four times a week, with good awareness. The nurse reviewed her injection technique and noted significant lipohypertrophy at the sites of her abdominal injections. She was advised to avoid these sites for future injections and to reduce her insulin dose by 10%. Over the next six months her glycaemic control improved, with home tests showing blood sugar concentrations ranging from 3.4 mmol/l to 9.8 mmol/l before meals and 6.7 mmol/l to 12.3 mmol/l after meals. The frequency of occurrences of hypoglycaemia reduced to less than once a month. Her glycated haemoglobin fell to 6.8% within three months, despite the reduction in insulin dose.

I've now sucked it up and am avoiding these places completely. Legs, butt, arms are it now. They bruise and bleed and hurt but hopefully they'll give better control, and additionally, I hope those fat pockets will dissapear if only for vanity's sake. My question is (gosh this is long :flute: ) , what experience have you had with hypertrophy going away? I read a study that suggested it takes up to a year or more, but one seemed to say (though inconclusively) that in almost half the cases it never goes away!

KickStart101
07-13-2006, 02:49 AM
Hi Spring. it's Good to meet you and Welcome.

I'm surprised that you have hypertrophy after only 9 yrs. of
injecting. But I guess it is possible, if you only inject in those
areas, as you've shown.

I've been on Humulin L for many yrs. and Humalog for about 9 yrs.
I noticed the hypertrophy about 6 yrs. ago(I remember thinking how
odd it looked on my lean abdomen)and on both my upper arms. I
did continue injecting(since those were my fave areas)and ended
up with lipotrophy on my lower abdomen and upper arms.

I started injecting on my thighs, butt and lower arms more often. I
also have been injecting on my shoulder pads and the back of my thighs
for about 8 months now occasionally(just to make life more interesting :D).

Oddly, you are wondering how long it will take for the fatty tissue to disappear
and I'm wondering how long it will take for some thicker tissue
to appear. Actually, I've noticed the dents on my upper arm and left side
of my abdomen have filled in a bit. YIPPIE.

Sorry, I didn't answer your question but maybe someone else can. Anyways,
I do hope that you enjoy Tony's :hello: Forums and all the Cool Folks here.:lollypop:

spring
07-13-2006, 01:30 PM
Thanks for the welcome quickstart! :hello:

Hah, in my mind 9 years seems like a decent chunk of time but I guess you've got me beat. ;)

Upon further reading, apparently some diabetics have gotten liposuction to get rid of the fat pockets so that they could go back to injecting in those areas. Of course, now I'm afraid they'll develop in my legs and arms. :banghead: I've long been toying with the idea of the pump, but I don't know if it's more likely one would develop hypertrophy at pump sites if one is already susceptible to such things, seeing as they stay in the same spot for three days at a time. (Of course, that's not the only reason I haven't tried it but I digress...)

Glad to get a response anyway. I hope people don't feel that they need to have the answer to my question to reply. lol. Looking forward to posting more 'round these parts. :D

Keezheekoni
07-13-2006, 02:01 PM
My dad is starting to get those bumps where he injects (he's on NPH) and his doctor is switching him to Lantus because of it. The bumps on him, supposedly, indicate that he's become allergic to NPH... I just read a similar entry in the 4th ed. of the ADA Complete Guide to Diabetes, so maybe there's an allergy issue with you too?

Rikki

lgvincent
07-13-2006, 02:42 PM
I will sometimes bleed and bruise in those areas but it doesn't seem to be too bad. For me, the stomach is the worst area for those things to happen.