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camjen1
07-13-2006, 09:35 AM
It's all about money folks! Yeah we might be getting fancy glucometers and new drugs but really they are doing it to make them money. :mad:

http://www.topix.net/content/ap/3301324369192518250306319982732391584354

Drug companies are racing to capture the ballooning market in diabetes care. Pfizer Inc. plans to debut Exubera, its new inhaled insulin treatment, in July, and Merck & Co., Novartis AG and Eli Lilly and Co. are awaiting FDA approval for new diabetes products that could generate hundreds of millions of dollars in sales.

'I think it's intensely competitive,' said John C. Lechleiter, president and chief operating officer of Indianapolis-based Lilly, which began offering Byetta, an injectable diabetes treatment last year. 'Many companies that would not have said they were engaged in diabetes research 10 years ago are squarely there now,' he said.

Albert Rauch, a health care analyst with A.G. Edwards & Sons, said he expects the $10 billion diabetes market to eventually rival the $20 billion cholesterol market.

'We think they could be the next blockbuster class of drugs for the pharmaceutical industry,' he said.

But the companies could have trouble getting their newest medications into patients' hands.

Gun-shy physicians _ many of whom are still reeling over fallout from Vioxx, a blockbuster arthritis drug that was pulled from the market after it was linked to increased risk of heart problems _ want more research about potential long-term health problems. And insurers could be slow to add some of the latest diabetes drugs to their preferred drug lists.

'It's safe to assume that unless Exubera is priced comparatively to insulin, it would not be added,' said David Beshara, chief pharmacy officer for Tennessee's Medicaid program.

Robert Seidman, vice president and chief pharmacy officer for the Indianapolis-based WellPoint Inc., the nation's largest insurer, said a medication usually is on the market six months before a panel of company experts reviews it to decide whether to add it to its preferred drug list.

'The science needs to drive the decision-making process,' he said.

Health advocates say the need for new treatments is clear.

A study released this month by the American Diabetes Association said one in three Americans has diabetes or a precursor to the disease, which causes elevated blood sugar levels. Untreated, diabetes can be fatal or cause blindness and circulation problems.

More than 90 percent of patients are diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes, a condition linked to obesity that occurs when the body cannot effectively use the insulin it produces. Fewer than 10 percent of patients are diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes, a disorder in which the immune system attacks insulin-producing cells in the pancreas.

The disease could yield billions of dollars for pharmaceutical companies.

'Whenever there's a great commercial opportunity, companies devote more resources,' said Barbara Ryan, an analyst at Deutsche Bank.'

In December, Whitehouse, N.J.-based Merck announced it was retooling its business to focus on nine key growth areas _ including diabetes and obesity.

The company is awaiting FDA approval for Januvia, a new class of oral diabetes drug that enhances the body's ability to lower elevated blood sugar levels. Later this year, Merck also expects to file an application for MK-431A, an unnamed drug that combines Januvia with the common diabetes medication metformin. The combination would allow patients to take fewer pills each day.

'We believe there's a tremendous unmet medical need for patients with Type 2 diabetes,' said John Amatruda, vice president of clinical research of metabolic disorders at Merck.

Analysts predict Januvia sales could reach $1 billion in 2009.

Prospects could be even bigger for Galvus, a similar medication being developed by Swiss drug maker Novartis.

New York-based Pfizer is in the midst of a campaign for Exubera targeted at more than 200,000 health professionals _ including doctors, pharmacists and diabetes educators _ before its mid-July launch. Company officials have not announced a date for the drug's U.S. release but have already begun sales in Germany and Ireland.

'The fact that we have put the incredible effort and resources behind Exubera is a key demonstration of the importance of diabetes to Pfizer,' said David Simmons, the company's U.S. medical director for the drug.

Analysts said they expect Exubera sales to climb to $1.5 billion by 2010.

Lilly, which introduced the first commercially available insulin in 1923, also is honing its focus on the disease. Lilly's diabetes portfolio already accounts for one-fifth of the company's revenue, a figure analysts predicted could more than double in the next four years. Lilly expects to complete late-stage clinical trials of its own version of inhaled insulin later this decade.

'I think it's safe to say that diabetes, along with cardiovascular disease and obesity, is positioned to be one of Lilly's key growth areas going forward,' Lechleiter said

rzrbks
07-14-2006, 12:57 PM
camjen1

It's all about money folks!

This is news because.........................?

duck
07-14-2006, 01:18 PM
I promise you all I will make it a point to post this article for a third straight friday next friday:

http://www.diabetesforums.com/diabetes/10918-drug-cos-set-sights-diabetes-care.html?


:)

notme
07-14-2006, 01:22 PM
Call me skeptical, but they will never find a cure as long as there is big bucks in "finding new treatments". How about spending all this money on a cure!!!

Cinnabon
07-14-2006, 07:32 PM
Call me skeptical, but they will never find a cure as long as there is big bucks in "finding new treatments". How about spending all this money on a cure!!!
This is sooo true, Unfortunately. So many people would be left w/ out a job if we are all cured! Not convenient for them at all!! :secruity:

JediSkipdogg
07-14-2006, 07:39 PM
This is sooo true, Unfortunately. So many people would left w/ out a job if we are all cured! Not convenient for them at all!! :secruity:

And so many new people would be in jobs (nurses, doctors, hospital staff, etc.) Not to mention insurance companies would love it since they would then have the #2 most expensive item no longer on their list.

Like I keep saying many times, the problem is the government is looking at it the wrong way. They are trying to pass bills and laws that allow small businesses to get insurance that denies covering some coverage that state laws mandate. They should be looking at the fact that companies are making billions in profits and without insurance you can't easily afford their supplies. The drug companies are the ones they should be going after. But then again, it's just like gas companies. The federal government seens nothing wrong in them making billions in profits and not spending the money on research to make fuel less demanded (just like drug companies not researching better treatment methods that cost less.) Currently, our government is useless, and we have to wait till either Canada or the UK finds the cure.

Just like the recent article said on Stem Cell research, some other country will find it first while we argue over allowing stem cell research funding. The same applies for just a cure in general, by having a poorly run health care system, some other country will find a cure first since their governments have a larger part in the health care industry.

jeggeman31
07-14-2006, 09:21 PM
I promise you all I will make it a point to post this article for a third straight friday next friday:

http://www.diabetesforums.com/diabetes/10918-drug-cos-set-sights-diabetes-care.html?


:)

And as I said in that thread


- The disease could yield billions of dollars for pharmaceutical companies




That is the very reason I say. There will NEVER be a cure for diabetes.

camjen1
07-14-2006, 09:25 PM
Whoopsie! Didn't realize it was already posted.

JediSkipdogg
07-15-2006, 04:03 AM
Whoopsie! Didn't realize it was already posted.

I liked it better posted by you than by duck. HEHE

rzrbks
07-18-2006, 12:44 PM
I know I've got a bad attitude, but:

I do NOT believe Aliens landed in NM;

I do NOT believe Elvis is alive(not sure he/she/it was ever alive)

I do NOT believe the Car Conglomerates are hiding a Carburetor that gets more MPG than any of them do now.

I do NOT believe that the Pharmaceuticals are hiding a cure for Diabetes.


How long were they able to hide the truth about Vioxx?

Even in the days when the Press was slow to find things, how long were they able to hide the Truth about Thalidomide?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide

Something that big would make more money than lose.

P.S. Castro or Aliens didn't kill JFK.

duck
07-18-2006, 01:20 PM
I know I've got a bad attitude, but:

I do NOT believe Aliens landed in NM;

I do NOT believe Elvis is alive(not sure he/she/it was ever alive)

I do NOT believe the Car Conglomerates are hiding a Carburetor that gets more MPG than any of them do now.

I do NOT believe that the Pharmaceuticals are hiding a cure for Diabetes.


How long were they able to hide the truth about Vioxx?

Even in the days when the Press was slow to find things, how long were they able to hide the Truth about Thalidomide?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide

Something that big would make more money than lose.

P.S. Castro or Aliens didn't kill JFK.

:hmmmm: We all know JFK faked his own death to hide from Castro's aliens.

Keezheekoni
07-18-2006, 01:28 PM
:hmmmm: We all know JFK faked his own death to hide from Castro's aliens.
:ahhhhh: You people have me :rofl: over this!!!

Thanks, I needed the laughs!

Rikki

JediSkipdogg
07-18-2006, 01:40 PM
So is Elvis really dead then? Please say no........the King MUST live on.

Just_Plain_John
07-19-2006, 08:59 AM
So is Elvis really dead then? Please say no........the King MUST live on.

Relax - Elvis is fine, he works on my car. I drink with aliens, most of them are Russians, and none of them are from New Mexico, although one lives in California now.

I'm skeptical of the concept that there actually IS a cure for my Type 1 diabetes. For some reason, my body attacked and killed my pancreatic cells, and there's little reason to believe it would not do so to stem cells grown into new islets and implanted in me.

If there is progress to be made it is in regulating of the body's immune system, since that affects other diseases like Crohn's, cancer, AIDS, influenza, etc.

Some of you may want to check this out :
http://www.grid.org/projects/cancer/

It is a link to a project that uses ordinary PCs to run a simple screensaver that processes data for medical research. I have used this for a number of years and found it to be very stable. The research is being conducted by the University Of Oxford and the National Foundation for Cancer Research.

JediSkipdogg
07-19-2006, 09:09 AM
I'm skeptical of the concept that there actually IS a cure for my Type 1 diabetes. For some reason, my body attacked and killed my pancreatic cells, and there's little reason to believe it would not do so to stem cells grown into new islets and implanted in me.


I think the idea with the Stem Cell part has to do with just replenishing the cells. It may be a cure for type 2s more than type 1s. Although, type 1s have no stem cells since they have all been killed off replenishing them with new cells would at least allow our body to produce our own insulin. Even if a cure to stop the immune system is found, we still need to replace the pancreatic cells to produce insulin. So really, Stem Cells are only 50% of the equation for a cure. However, it's the easier 50% to cure since it may just require you to go in every 12 months and have a small incision to replenish the cells and then you let them get killed again and just do it all over again.