Designing a room for diabetes management.

[mids1999]

After having hopefully the last of many blowout with my fiance about who gets to use our bathroom at what time \
I have just been given the ok to dedicate our spare room to managing my diabetes. :)

What would you do if the only limits to what you could do were space, financial, and no changes outside the room?

Lets put a flexible $500 limit on any one item in the room.

The rooms specs
Carpeted but otherwise completely empty.
10'x12' 8' tall
1 door on the right corner facing into the room.
1 window on the left wall in the center of the wall when facing in.

Plumbing is allowed and planned.

[Belinda]

You are kidding I hope? Designing a room for diabetes...I am not sure what you would need a whole room for? Is it the fact that your fiance doesn't like to see you taking care of yourself? If so, ummmm ditch him! Is it that you leave stuff lying around and he doesn't want to see it or that there are small childen involved? Seems to me a cabinet in the bathroom would suffice. If it is pump supplies and there are many...I just had my brother in law put another wire rack in the laundry room closet (about the standard one) and stack everything up there...it made such great use of space he did all my closets that way. You don't need a whole room for diabetes care unless you plan on lying in the bed and letting the diabetes control your life:frown:

[SueM]

Well I just checked the date and it's not April the 1st :confused:
But you are joking arn't you? Please say you are.
All my day to day needs fit into a 2ltr ice cream tub.

[JasonJayhawk]

*gulp*

If you "isolate" your diabetes management in its own room, there may be some undiscussed issues here that need to be considered. How much of your "management" do you want to be a part of your life? Just entering a room like that (which would have the smell of a hospital, probably) would raise my blood glucose, just like going into a doctor's office. You don't need a room for it. Diabetes is part of you...don't try to "hide it" in a different room.

If you are messy with throwing away strips or used sharps, you should modify your behavior. This room may very well be used for some other future purpose, such as a library, office, or even a future baby's room.

[mg_2204]

Sharps and used strips I will put in an empty jar. I do try to put my meter always at the same place so I or any of my family member can get access to it quickly. Aside from that I do not need a room for diabetes management. I'd rather have a nice cosy reading space... :marchmell

[Penny]

I keep all my supplies in a plastic box, along with another plastic box containing my 3 month supplies of medicines. I need to keep my insulin in a shelf in the refrigerator, but other that that, everything is in just this one room. But it contains my computer, a TV, and my bird in his cage. If I had the means, I might keep a small refrigerator in here for insulin, and water for my pills. I only did this after a child visiting my granddaughter, opened and ruined a box of strips and destoyed a needle, before I caught her. No child is allowed in this room without adult supervision. So it is a room designated for diabetes care, but also used for other things. Maybe this is something you could do with the room, maybe a computer/diabetes or computer/tv room.

[mids1999]

I think you are taking this the wrong way.

My fiance wants me to take care of myself and I think using the room would be a good thing.
Think of a personal media center with a sink.
Computer, tv, comfortable seating, personal fridge, sink.

I will be able keep diabetes supplies organized and easily accessible and not have to worry about other people getting into things. Like a cabinet but much much larger.
Not like they are now in a box on the kitchen counter.

It also frees the bathroom up so she can use it as needed. She spends hours and hours in there.

It is in no way confining myself to a room.
It is more like designing the dream room with a purpose.

Penny has the right idea of what I want to do.

[mids1999]

I think relaxation should be covered under treatment and therefore also falls under my definition of management.

I dont want some sterile hospital like room.

I am looking for ideas for making the room into more of a personal relaxation or management place like a second living room or a library or a media center with the things I find are needed for diabetes management like a sink.

[spike]

After having hopefully the last of many blowout with my fiance about who gets to use our bathroom at what time \
I have just been given the ok to dedicate our spare room to managing my diabetes. :)

What would you do if the only limits to what you could do were space, financial, and no changes outside the room?

Lets put a flexible $500 limit on any one item in the room.

The rooms specs
Carpeted but otherwise completely empty.
10'x12' 8' tall
1 door on the right corner facing into the room.
1 window on the left wall in the center of the wall when facing in.

Plumbing is allowed and planned.

I SO don't get what you mean by a room for DM management!!

[spike]

I think relaxation should be covered under treatment and therefore also falls under my definition of management.

I dont want some sterile hospital like room.

I am looking for ideas for making the room into more of a personal relaxation or management place like a second living room or a library or a media center with the things I find are needed for diabetes management like a sink.


You can't relax in the other rooms of your home??

[poodlebone]

My question is, exactly what part of your diabetes management is being done in the bathroom?! I know that it's not recommended that you store any testing supplies in there, because the humidity can damage meters & strips. I certainly wouldn't store my insulin in the bathroom, or my pump supplies. I actually do NONE of my diabetes care in the bathroom, except once in awhile I'll bring an infusion set there to insert, if I need the mirror to see (putting it off to the side/back). Otherwise I test at the kitchen table, or bring my meter in the bedroom at night in case I wake up and need to test.

[am1977]

I don't really understand why people are getting so agitated b/c she wants a room for this... :confused:. If she thinks it's going to help her better manage her Diabetes, then I am all for it :top:.

As for designing the room, wish I could help you... but I'm not real UP on interior design. My suggestion would be to keep it simple and comfortable. Maybe a comfy chair, a cabinet with drawers for your supplies, a bookshelf for your books & magazines, & some good lighting to keep it nice and bright in there :)...

Good luck :ciao:

[spike]

I don't really understand why people are getting so agitated b/c she wants a room for this... :confused:. If she thinks it's going to help her better manage her Diabetes, then I am all for it :top:.

As for designing the room, wish I could help you... but I'm not real UP on interior design. My suggestion would be to keep it simple and comfortable. Maybe a comfy chair, a cabinet with drawers for your supplies, a bookshelf for your books & magazines, & some good lighting to keep it nice and bright in there :)...

Good luck :ciao:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not so sure that anyone on this thread is "agitated". I think there is a lot of confusion over what the OP wants in the way of advice. Maybe the OP will weigh in here, with their opinion of the responses so far. I for one, just don't "get it". I'm hardly "agitated" over it though. :) I'm hoping for more dialog explaining more about their needs.

[4519]

I don't think agitated is the correct word, more judgmental. And again, maybe not. Quick responces like we do in verbal conversation come across a lot defferent in print. The reader does not have the normal inflections and the visual contact with the writer creating a more 'judgemental' look to it - even if this was not at all what the writer intended. As example when Spike said, "...I SO don't get what you mean by a room for DM management!!...." that on its face comes across judgemental - had spike it face to face I doubt that would have come across the same way. The double "!!" do make it jump out. It is a writing vs speaking thing. You have to downplay the first blush response and give some time for the next statemtents to explain it a little more. Just my take on it..

Looking back judgemental is probably not the correct word when I quote spikes response.

[spike]

I don't think agitated is the correct word, more judgmental. And again, maybe not. Quick responces like we do in verbal conversation come across a lot defferent in print. The reader does not have the normal inflections and the visual contact with the writer creating a more 'judgemental' look to it - even if this was not at all what the writer intended. As example when Spike said, "...I SO don't get what you mean by a room for DM management!!...." that on its face comes across judgemental - had spike it face to face I doubt that would have come across the same way. The double "!!" do make it jump out. It is a writing vs speaking thing. You have to downplay the first blush response and give some time for the next statemtents to explain it a little more. Just my take on it..

Looking back judgemental is probably not the correct word when I quote spikes response.

I wasn't being judgemental at all. I was confused by the OP's post. I still don't "get it". I don't feel as that's a judgement call; it's my expression of confusion over the notion of a room designed for DM managment. Perhaps you can explain your thoughts on what the OP meant? Do YOU understand what would make a room special for DM management? Maybe I'm just denser than the average bear!! :) (Don't read too much into any of my double or triple "!" or "?" either. I use them liberally without them meaning a whole **** of a lot!! :) It's more of a typing pattern than anything. Same as when I bolded my posts. Some one who shall remain nameless thought I was seeking to draw attention to my posts by bolding them. The real reason was so I could easily proofread them. Now that the font sizes on the website have been increased, the std font is easy for me to see. I was trying to explain all that before, but some folks are SO suspicious ("eye of the beholder" effect)...

I guess I expected that my expression of confusion would elicit some further explanation of why a room would be devoted to DM. It never dawned on me that someone(s) would misinterpret that comment. When I say I don't get something, or I SO don't get something, it means I don't understand. Nothing more, nothing less.

[4519]

Spike, I did not pick you out for any reason. As far as the "!!", well, we do speak english here and we read what we see. Every thing has meaning to the reader. Write how you want but people will read it like they have been educated - that will lead to misunderstandings.

Do you see the difference in what you said to me and what you said to the original post? You explained yourself, wrote an entire paregraph - added an example to make it easier to understand. Short quick responses come across a lot different than what is really in your mind, perhaps not. With just quick responses who knows what the writer really is saying. I know what your are saying, I like to add a lot of periods..... It does't mean much other than my finger gets going and doesn't stop.

All this and mids1999 still does not have any more of an idea what we think then she did when she ask the question. Frankly I don't know what to say. I do understand what she wants, I am just not good at planning such things.

[spike]

Spike, I did not pick you out for any reason. As far as the "!!", well, we do speak english here and we read what we see. Every thing has meaning to the reader. Write how you want but people will read it like they have been educated - that will lead to misunderstandings.

Do you see the difference in what you said to me and what you said to the original post? You explained yourself, wrote an entire paregraph - added an example to make it easier to understand. Short quick responses come across a lot different than what is really in your mind, perhaps not. With just quick responses who knows what the writer really is saying. I know what your are saying, I like to add a lot of periods..... It does't mean much other than my finger gets going and doesn't stop.

All this and mids1999 still does not have any more of an idea what we think then she did when she ask the question. Frankly I don't know what to say. I do understand what she wants, I am just not good at planning such things.

Actually I didn't feel "picked" on! :) I was just taking the opportunity to explain further, since it became obvious that at least one person didn't get my intended meaning. I always prefer that my posts aren't misinterpreted.

:) Planning is my worst talent. Right up there with communicating! :)

[mids1999]

To clear up some confusion let me start off by saying that I am male with no idea on how to decorate a room to make it feel comfortable.
My fiance who takes up the bathroom most of the time is the female.

I guess I chose the wrong title for the room but what I am trying to achieve is the following.
The reason I call it a diabetic room is because I plan to manage my diabetes (test and inject) in there.

I want to create a library/office/theatre room with a sink, mirror, fridge and whatever else is needed for proper storage/usage of my diabetic supplies
I am on MDI Levemir and Novolog.

The comfort and entertainment values of the room are the top priority with the diabetic stuff being a very close second.

The reasons that I dont want to use the other room is because
I like to be able to wash my hands right before I test or inject.
and
We have people who stop by unexpected.
Not that I have a problem with them knowing I am diabetic I am just uncomfortable with doing things infront of them or being interupted when I test or inject.

Also just to clear up any possible misconception of me being wealthy I would like to state that we live in a 2 bedroom single wide mobile home with 1 bathroom and 2 bedrooms the 2nd bedroom being the unused room.

[spike]

To clear up some confusion let me start off by saying that I am male with no idea on how to decorate a room to make it feel comfortable.
My fiance who takes up the bathroom most of the time is the female.

I guess I chose the wrong title for the room but what I am trying to achieve is the following.
The reason I call it a diabetic room is because I plan to manage my diabetes (test and inject) in there.

I want to create a library/office/theatre room with a sink, mirror, fridge and whatever else is needed for proper storage/usage of my diabetic supplies
I am on MDI Levemir and Novolog.

The comfort and entertainment values of the room are the top priority with the diabetic stuff being a very close second.

The reasons that I dont want to use the other room is because
I like to be able to wash my hands right before I test or inject.
and
We have people who stop by unexpected.
Not that I have a problem with them knowing I am diabetic I am just uncomfortable with doing things infront of them or being interupted when I test or inject.

Also just to clear up any possible misconception of me being wealthy I would like to state that we live in a 2 bedroom single wide mobile home with 1 bathroom and 2 bedrooms the 2nd bedroom being the unused room.


What part of the room do you need help with? Furnishings? Layout? You need to ADD a sink to that room? You need remodeling advice? I can point you to some newsgroups, if THAT'S mostly what you need.

[mids1999]

A little addon.

I took the !! as a typo and just looked over it.

[mids1999]

Spike
Furnishings? Layout? You need to ADD a sink to that room? You need remodeling advice?

Yes all of the above. Exactly what I am looking for.

[camjen1]

I think you should paint the walls pink and add a couple flowers and butterflies. :)

BTW, I don't see nothing wrong! But really, is your girlfriend only using the diabetes as an excuse to give you your own space or does she really want you to have your own room where you can do all the scratching and farting you please while watching TV? :laugh:

[JasonSmithMT]

A his and a hers bathroom has saved many marriages. Another thought would be a place to put some exercise equipment.

If you decide to go the entertainment room route you could sell the idea to your finance by saying if you make it fun enough you could convince your physician to make house calls on game day. OK, that would be a tough sell but worth a shot. :)

Jason

[spike]

A little addon.

I took the !! as a typo and just looked over it.

Yes, think of them as typos, as I never know how many !!! I'm typing. :)

[4519]

Sorry, you did say that you were male. Screen names mean nothing so you draw your own conclusions - and forget what the poster said in the first place.

[spike]

Spike
Furnishings? Layout? You need to ADD a sink to that room? You need remodeling advice?

Yes all of the above. Exactly what I am looking for.


I've been reminded gently on more than one occasion by my wife to be more careful ("We've got a bleeder!") around her quilts when I'm checking my bg's in bed. She finally bought a multicolored one that if it had a little stain here or there, would not look as bad as her nearly all-white one. Keep that in mind when choosing fabrics. Leather cleans up better than fabric, too. :)

The newsgroup that you can ask questions galore on remodeling is, "alt.home.repair". Historically there have been some real kooks hanging out there, but don't let that stop you from getting so great assistance. I've done my share of remodeling, but that's hardly a topic to go into depth on this forum. Hence, I suggest you check out that usenet resource and let me know how you fare.

Instead of a bathroom sink, if you want to make the room look cool, consider a bar sink.

[mids1999]

I think you should paint the walls pink and add a couple flowers and butterflies.
My fiance would probably like that but me???

BTW, I don't see nothing wrong! But really, is your girlfriend only using the diabetes as an excuse to give you your own space or does she really want you to have your own room where you can do all the scratching and farting you please while watching TV?

She spends most of the day in there and gets mad when I have to push her out of the bathroom so I can use it.
She is obsessive about cleaning her face and brushing her hair. (she has a skin condition)
The bathroom is too small for both of us at the same time.

We have become so used to living with each other that we can do all the scratching and farting we want in front of each other with no problems.

I dont know how she would be using the diabetes as an excuse cause I am the diabetic.

spike:
bar sink
Thanks for the suggestion.
I will definitely consider a bar sink. Maybe even a small bar.

alt.home.repair

How should I suggest this idea to them to get suggestions?
Obviously asking about a diabetic room doesnt fly.

[spike]

Thanks for the suggestion.
I will definitely consider a bar sink. Maybe even a small bar.

How should I suggest this idea to them to get suggestions?
Obviously asking about a diabetic room doesnt fly.


Yeah, a bar with a mirror and glass shelves is cool.

I agree, the mention of diabetes isn't pertinent to asking on the newsgroup about making yourself a den. I'd characterize it as a den unless you find that's not really what you are after, either. Other ideas for a description? You'll have to tell them what the room will be. It's not a bedroom or a living room, but maybe "den" is close enough to what you had in mind? A wet bar certainly fits with a den or study...

[JediSkipdogg]

Here's a few questions....what size is the room? Is it square or does it have something jut off to one side? If so, which side, can you explain the best so I can make a sketch of the layout? Does it have any closets in it? What rooms are around it? Do you have a basement below it?

My dad and I do home remodeling on the side and I'd be glad to help you some. I just need some help with figuring out plumbing and such for you. I'd hate to put a wet bar on the opposite side of a room when you have a bathtub against one wall with the plumbing for it on the same exact wall. Tell me more about the room you have and what's on the other sides of the walls and I'll see what I can do for you.

I think in the room a nice idea would be a wet bar in one corner with some exercise equipment in the other corner. Whether that's a weight machine or just a treadmill, something that brings you into the room. Then on the opposite wall put a nice entertainment center. If the room is large enough, through a big screen and a couch in there.

[Cyborg]

Don't forget the big screen tv...

[mids1999]

Here's a few questions....what size is the room?
10'x12' 8' tall 10'x14' if you measure with the closet.

Is it square or does it have something jut off to one side? If so, which side, can you explain the best so I can make a sketch of the layout? Does it have any closets in it? What rooms are around it? Do you have a basement below it?

The room is at the end of the home. Bathroom and laundry are right next to it. You have to go past both to get into the room. The plumbing for the bathtub and the laundry area are in the wall that is shared with the room.

It is a square room with 1 full lengh closet on the right wall and a window in the center of the left wall. Its a mobile home so no basement but the underside is fully accessible.

My dad and I do home remodeling on the side and I'd be glad to help you some. I just need some help with figuring out plumbing and such for you. I'd hate to put a wet bar on the opposite side of a room when you have a bathtub against one wall with the plumbing for it on the same exact wall. Tell me more about the room you have and what's on the other sides of the walls and I'll see what I can do for you.

I think in the room a nice idea would be a wet bar in one corner with some exercise equipment in the other corner. Whether that's a weight machine or just a treadmill, something that brings you into the room. Then on the opposite wall put a nice entertainment center. If the room is large enough, through a big screen and a couch in there.

I would greatly appriciate the assist.
Here are some quick layout images.
Notes
1 wall has bathtub next to it
2 Closet,laundry water and drain in this wall.
Water heater is in wall also.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a86/mids1999/room.jpg

[JediSkipdogg]

First question...do you want to get rid of the closet or not?

[mids1999]

I dont really care about the closet.
The room is completely unused.
Only issue with ko'ing the closet is that area is uncarpeted.
The rest of the room has new carpet. (medium grey)
If it helps the room was recently painted. (off white)

[JediSkipdogg]

Ok, editing your image...
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/8799/tempsg8.jpg

The red item is a wet bar. Have about 3 feet between it and the wall behind it. Make the bar about 2 feet deep and 5 feet wide. Add a sink in the bar and then underneath it put a mini-fridge. That gives you a place to wash your hands and store your insulin supplies and other supplies. The plumbing for the bathroom should make it easy to get the needed water supply and drain lines to that sink. That will be the only major addition you have to do and therefore it shouldn't cost too much. For something like that depending if you do it yourself or not, you could spent around $1000 (cabinets, sink, refridgerator, countertop, plumbing)

The brownish item is a couch. That will give you a place to sit and relax and watch TV.

The green thing is your entertainment center. You could slant it somewhat towards the TV to make it nicer to watch or you could stick it in the closet and put some fancy door on the closet that when you open it you have it right there.

If you are included to, you can add an exercise bike or treadmill (the blue thing.) That will make sure that you get the plenty of exercise that we need. You can then exercise and watch TV or listen to some music on your entertainment center.

[mids1999]

Thank you

I like where you are leading me with this design.

A fairly open design considering the size of the room.
I like open

Almost all the necesities are there..

Within budget.

[JediSkipdogg]

If you really got creative and wanted more space, you could do like I briefly mentioned. Instead of buying one of those entertainment center kits, you could just build one right into the closet. Maybe change the doors to something else like bi-folds on both sides. Then you open the doors and have a cabinet on one side for additional supply storage, maybe books, then your TV on the other side. That's the best idea I can come up wiht since the floor isn't carpeted and you don't really need carpeting if you just have a built-in entertainment center.

[notme]

I guess I would do this all different. But if I had a whole room for myself for diabetes and money wasn't a huge object. I would.....get a treadmill and recumbant bike and stair master as well as a big screen tv. I would have a rubber flooring for sound (my sister did that and it is nice). I would also have a nice shower area or soaking tub area and of course a fridge for juice and cold water. Of course there would be a really nice couch/love seat set up for relaxing later.

[Simon]

I think I'd want my own loo. If you girlfriend spends hours in the one you've got how will you cope if you're ill and need to "go" often?

[spike]

I guess I would do this all different. But if I had a whole room for myself for diabetes and money wasn't a huge object. I would.....get a treadmill and recumbant bike and stair master as well as a big screen tv. I would have a rubber flooring for sound (my sister did that and it is nice). I would also have a nice shower area or soaking tub area and of course a fridge for juice and cold water. Of course there would be a really nice couch/love seat set up for relaxing later.


I saw a guy on a recumbent and my wife and I thought it looked uncomfortable to pedal in that position. Do you have one? How is, compared to a regular bike?

The OP stated he didn't have $1,000 bills falling out of his pockets, so I'm guessing the mini 24-hr fitness gym may not be in his plans. <g>

[JediSkipdogg]

The OP stated he didn't have $1,000 bills falling out of his pockets, so I'm guessing the mini 24-hr fitness gym may not be in his plans. <g>

When I posted my idea with all the furniture and extras and stated the bar would cost $1000 alone...he stated the idea was "within budget". So not sure where you don't see this being in his plans.

[DeusXM]

I've been reminded gently on more than one occasion by my wife to be more careful ("We've got a bleeder!") around her quilts when I'm checking my bg's in bed. She finally bought a multicolored one that if it had a little stain here or there, would not look as bad as her nearly all-white one. Keep that in mind when choosing fabrics. Leather cleans up better than fabric, too

You have leather quilts?

[spike]

You have leather quilts?


:) No. A multi-colored one that would make it nigh impossible to spot a little blood splatter. I get no more admonishments from the wife, since she replaced the white quilt with the colorful one.

[JasonJayhawk]

Don't forget the big screen tv...

Make that a plasma TV hanging on the wall! And when you enter the room, it displays calming images, selected by the person who enters.

Hmmm, this sounds familiar...

The OP should know that running a personal fridge will cost a bit of money in electricity (and heat generation), and when the power goes out (if in the midwest, you think about these things), the personal fridge will get warm faster.

[spike]

Make that a plasma TV hanging on the wall! And when you enter the room, it displays calming images, selected by the person who enters.

Hmmm, this sounds familiar...

The OP should know that running a personal fridge will cost a bit of money in electricity (and heat generation), and when the power goes out (if in the midwest, you think about these things), the personal fridge will get warm faster.

I saved over $20 in energy costs per month when I got rid of our extra freezer. Also saved money when we got rid of our waterbed (it had a heater).

[Cyborg]

Make that a plasma TV hanging on the wall!

It will have to be a flat screen for the pool table to fit!

[JasonJayhawk]

It will have to be a flat screen for the pool table to fit!

This thread is probably in my top-5 favorite threads! :tee:

Spike, as far as the recumbent bike, I bought one from Costco (because a person can return it easily if it breaks in 3 years and you think it's a defect in the product). I really like it because it because I've been out of the biking world for many years, and didn't want to struggle with "bikers seat." With my normal bike, I'd feel pretty sore and be walking kind of funny (although with a few weeks of training, that would supposedly go away). I also feel like it's less back stress -- a lot less.

And, you can hang more clothes on it than an upright bike! :bebored:

[mids1999]

Sorry I havent been online in a while.
I have been nursing my foot ulcer which my pod decided needed to be reopened becase there was some fluid deep inside after it was pretty much healed.

I would like to thank everyone again for their input.

[Stuboy]

Get a jacuzzi fitted! ultimate relaxation! :D

[spike]

This thread is probably in my top-5 favorite threads! :tee:

Spike, as far as the recumbent bike, I bought one from Costco (because a person can return it easily if it breaks in 3 years and you think it's a defect in the product). I really like it because it because I've been out of the biking world for many years, and didn't want to struggle with "bikers seat." With my normal bike, I'd feel pretty sore and be walking kind of funny (although with a few weeks of training, that would supposedly go away). I also feel like it's less back stress -- a lot less.

And, you can hang more clothes on it than an upright bike! :bebored:


Yeah, you gotta love Costco's return policy. Same thing with Bed Bath & Beyond.

I've got one of the newer seats with a depression down the middle to relieve pressure on...well...you know.

[Tony]

Seeing that I am a plumber and we often need to layout bathrooms or sometimes spare rooms where heat is needed, I have a couple ideas for you.

To gain as much space as possible, here are my two option. A 10x12 room isn't that big.

You can see below I place the bar against the bathroom wall. The bar can simply be kitchen cabinets with a bar sink on one end and TV on the other end. In the photo I have the TV near the door but, I think the sink would go better there and have the TV near the outside wall. You can have the fridge under the counter. Also you see I placed a couch and a treadmill behind that.

While I have the sink against the bathroom wall it really isn't that great unless you have the bathroom sink right behind where the bar sink would go. Don't get me wrong it still will work good, it would be easier this way.

Option two here may be your best bet to gain even more space. Remove your closet doors and put your bar in the closet. Your plumbing would now come from the laundry room. Just pipe it across, every easy. Now in the room you can add a bofelx system or what ever.