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csaved38
08-18-2006, 05:26 PM
What should a diabetic eat. do you have a clue.

JediSkipdogg
08-18-2006, 05:43 PM
Depends, type one or type two? Type 2s have to watch closer what they eat unless they use insulin, whereas a type 1 can kinda eat whatever they want since all type 1s use insulin. Need a little more info on what you are looking at wanting to eat as well. But one should always try to eat as healthy as possible with a good mix including fruits and vegetables.

duck
08-18-2006, 05:53 PM
Sandy, there are some "diets" out there that pretty much spell out exactly what to eat and when. Is that what you're looking for? I don't want to suggest something and suggest the wrong thing for you.

csaved38
08-18-2006, 06:04 PM
Type 2. age 40 want to eat healthy. no junk food. no ****.

duck
08-18-2006, 06:10 PM
No junk no **** is will-power, where there's a will there's a way... LOL

Do you cook for anyone else (kids, spouse) or can you do what you need to do with little consideration for anyone else?

(sorry for the 21 questions)

csaved38
08-18-2006, 06:21 PM
Married with four kids. they wont change their eating habits because I have to. tried and tried. so I do have to cook for them and then fix my own.

I love breakfast. it is my favorite meal of the day. but what in the world could I eat now. one crummy egg. no bread. lol. no orange juice now. why live lol. sometimes I just want to give it all up. cant be happy why live. ever feel that way.

TAutry
08-18-2006, 06:54 PM
Sandy,

I posted this in your other thread, but I will carry it over here. You need to work with your doctor to find a Certified Diabetes Educator and/or nutritionist in your area to assist you in developing an effective eating plan.

It doesn't appear that you have the right kind of support at home. That is unfortunate. It makes getting yourself on track a little more difficult.

It can be done, however. You will have to be a little selfish and put your needs first. If you don't you might not be able to care for your family.

Diabetes is not a death sentence. Uncontrolled diabetes is and the death is the easy part. The amputations, blindness and other potential complications can make the death look appealing.

If you haven't already, go see your doctor ASAP. Get your bloodwork done and ask about a CDE.

darksheep
08-18-2006, 07:05 PM
Like breakfast? Me too. Sometimes I make Flaxseed meal muffins. Great for on the go meal. Spread butter or cream cheese on them. Very yummy, low carb, and flax seed is very good for you. I have more where this came from



12 muffins
85 calories
7g fat
4g protein
4g carbs...3g dietary fiber...1g net carbs ...each


Flaxmeal Cinnamon Muffins

3 Eggs
1/4 cup plus 2 tablespoons oil
1/4 cup sugar free syrup, such as DaVinci--I use Vanilla
2 tablespoons water
1 tablespoon of vanilla
1 cup flax meal
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 teaspoon baking powder
2 tablespoons cinnamon

In a medium bowl, beat the eggs with a fork. With a fork or spoon,
beat in oil, syrup, water and vanilla.

In a small bowl, combine the remaining dry ingredients, then stir into
egg mixture.

Let stand 5 minutes.

Spoon into 12 well-greased muffin cups (without papers),papers stick!

Bake at 350 degrees 12 - 15 minutes or until they are lightly browned.

duck
08-18-2006, 07:16 PM
Sandy, I agree with Tautry, get together with your doc and find a Certified Diabetes Trainer and go see them. And darksheep listed what looks like a good recipe.

Also, you'll laugh one day at what you posted about breakfast, especially when you are happily eating more. "Low Carb" is all the rage today, and it has helped those of us with this disease. There are many books and websites dedicated to low carb and lower carb lifestyles, and you don't feel like a freak anymore questioning how many carbs are in this or that.

I see you've also made other threads, I'll read through those... If you have a blood glucose meter, post your most recent readings. something I am noticing with more and more Type 2's is that your care teams don't emphasize testing your sugars, and I think that's crazy. You need to test and we can show you how and why...let us know.

judyblue
08-19-2006, 05:29 AM
Sandy,

A few weeks ago I bought the cookbook "Low Carb Cooking" by Carlean Johnson. This is in her series of cookbooks "Six Ingredients or Less". Like you, I have a picky family. But I have already made a number of things out of this book and they have loved them all. Very tasty recipes, and very fast and easy to make.

As for the low-carb ingredients used in the book, I found them all in my supermarket or on netrition.com. Good luck!

csaved38
08-19-2006, 07:16 AM
low carb cooking lol.. sorry I just have to laugh. see I was on atkins diet but with fruit and baked and grilled my meat. I was on it. loved it. lost 23 pounds on it. my doc says to get off of it. on atkins my blood sugar was normal. after he told me to quit it... i ate what I wanted to gained my weight back and then he said your a diabetic.... and now people tell me to watch the carbs... WHY I AM SO MAD. I was doing right the first time.

duck
08-19-2006, 10:20 AM
low carb cooking lol.. sorry I just have to laugh. see I was on atkins diet but with fruit and baked and grilled my meat. I was on it. loved it. lost 23 pounds on it. my doc says to get off of it. on atkins my blood sugar was normal. after he told me to quit it... i ate what I wanted to gained my weight back and then he said your a diabetic.... and now people tell me to watch the carbs... WHY I AM SO MAD. I was doing right the first time.

I am not going to go on my tirade about the medical profession, because I'll generally speak in sweeping terms and talk like there are no good docs. THERE ARE GOOD DOCs out there, but finding one sometimes is hard.

If low carb was working for you before, I'd say it's time to revisit it. Your doc is quoting the party-line when it comes to diabetes: You'll see that there is a "one size fits all" mentality at times with this disease, and what you will notice personally is that this disease can be very, very unique...What works for one person does not work as well for the next. What you'll probably have to do is take the bull by the horns, tell your doc that you are revisiting the low-carb diet and take LOTS of notes on how it works or does not work for you. Test your blood sugars early and often all day long. Write down the results. Write down what you are eating, check and record your weight, etc. I have yet to hear about a doc who is presented with concrete evidence that a methodology is working for someone, who says "stop it" because his training says it shouldn't work.

notme
08-19-2006, 11:44 AM
Sandy, I am going to go out on a limb here also. I know it seems like the only thing you are allowed to eat right now is boiled water. I felt that way when I heard the first time that I needed to eat low carb, low fat, low calorie foods. I was MAD. I would go to the store, walk down the aisles and reach the end of the store with nothing in my basket except sugar free drinks.

After finding several diabetes boards on the computer I realized that I was obsessing about food. You can eat a good healthy diet and you don't have to walk past all of the food. Walk past boxes and bags of food as much as you can. Eat normally, healthy normally. Portion control is the issue. You can have bread. You just need to cut the portions of bread down. Try sticking with whole grain or wheat. You can eat Atkins type diet but eliminate the fat that he says is ok. Personally, I don't believe that. I think moderation is the answer.

Secondly, don't live to eat. Eat to live and find other things that occupy your time. We, as diabetics, become obsessed with food and forget that their is other things in life. Find things that make you happy. Try something new. Do something that you never thought you would and go out on a limb. Live and try not to obsess about diabetes and all the things you can't have.

There are lots of worse diseases out there than diabetes. We are forced to eat healthy and exercise. Ok....I can do that. What I don't want to do is chemotherapy, dialysis, surgery or be in a wheelchair.

I think we should start a thread on "what I did today to forget about diabetes". I know that this seems like a "children are starving in Africa" type response. Sometimes it helps to realize that things aren't as bad as they seem.

Good luck Sandy. I know it seems a bit overwhelming right now. We have all been where you are and we will go there again on occassion. I hope that you will think about it and go at it with the gusto you did when you started the Atkins diet. It seems you do have the willpower when you are inspired.

Lex4153
08-19-2006, 01:20 PM
I can sympathize with you, Csaved, but you'll come to find you CAN eat lots of things. I was told once by a nutritionist that diabetics eat the way ALL people should eat anyway.

I'm not an avid low-carber but I do cut out as much as I can. If I do consume carbs, I keep them whole wheat.

Big thing that helped me . . . keeping a food log and writing down EVERYTHING! What you ate, your activity level, your blood sugars . . . then you can see how each food affects you. Everyone is affected by foods differently.

I can also understand your anger for having changed your diet and realize it may have attributed to your diabetes. If you look into some of my earliest posts, you can read how I dealt with a lot of anger issues at being misdiagnosed for 10 years with the wrong type and not being able to control my diabetes because of it. But it's important to get past that anger and learn to take care of yourself. Diabetes is not a life curse. It can often be a blessing in disguise to start taking care of yourself. If properly taken care of, you will lead a long, healthy, and normal life.

It will get better! And if you do all the cooking, just say "Hey, if you don't want to eat this, then you can go hungry!" I'm pretty sure they'll eat whatever it is you cook. And, honestly, it'll be more healthy for all of them too.

Stewpot
08-19-2006, 02:32 PM
Csaved, you wouldn't be the first to be wrongly advised by a doctor but wasn't there a reason? Didn't he say get off Atkins because...?

I made the low-carb decision because 30 years of low-fat eating helped me to be fat and diabetic which was good enough reason for me.

Unless the doctor has good reason, get him to support you in changing back to low-carb or find one who will. It is your life and you have to do what works for you to have a chance.

:egg:

Cyborg
08-19-2006, 04:49 PM
Then there's the famous "glop" recipe...

notme
08-19-2006, 05:51 PM
Ok....I'll bite Cyborg. "Glop" receipe????

Cyborg
08-19-2006, 06:04 PM
Ok....I'll bite Cyborg. "Glop" receipe????

Be my guest (http://www.diabetesforums.com/introductions-announcements/11013-noob-little-experience-but-encouraging-story.html?highlight=glop)... :star:

labob
08-19-2006, 10:36 PM
good lord!

notme
08-19-2006, 10:41 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth, labob. I think I may pass on the "glop" diet and try to just eat small portions of regular food....ummm one at a time.

Roy Gardiner
08-20-2006, 07:20 AM
Married with four kids. they wont change their eating habits because I have to. tried and tried. so I do have to cook for them and then fix my own. Fix your own; ignore them. Conversion time: 30 seconds. :)

As the cook, you have the whip hand. And you can now provide better, healthier food.

Ah, I don't really mean start World War III; but as a consumer not a cook I eat what's provided, say thank you and load the dishwasher. Your folks could perhaps be at least that reasonable.I love breakfast. it is my favorite meal of the day. but what in the world could I eat now. one crummy egg. no bread. lol. no orange juice now. why live lol. sometimes I just want to give it all up. cant be happy why live. ever feel that way. Eat as many eggs as you like, see what happens to your BG. Not too bad, I betcha. Bacon, too, if you like rashers. Lactose-free milk with your tea/coffee/cereal.

Cyborg
08-21-2006, 05:23 PM
I agree...

Try to find healthy items to make for all of the family to eat. If you are clever, I bet you could make certain meals they wouldn't even know were diabetic friendly. They do make lo carb substitutes for many foods. Fresh carbs are better than canned or packaged. Perhaps you could covertly substitute in some new meals and see what they like and dislike. It won't be easy to find a common menu for you and the rest of your family, but it would be well worth the time and effort.

lesley
08-22-2006, 03:56 AM
I think the advice to find a good understanding doctor and a good nutritionist is sound. For me, I tried five doctors before my current one for whom I have great respect.

For me, it appears I have to go a low carb diet to control both weight and blood glucose readings. It may be different for you. I have just tried going back to bread/muffins, been having two whole grain muffins in the morning for breakfast and a sandwich and fruit for lunch, have gained four kilos and my readings have doubled.

So I'm back to very low carb to lose the weight then I'll come back to moderate low carb. I'm off any type of cereal, bread, pasta, but having small amounts of protein and salads, etc. I am probably following close to an Atkins diet??? but I do watch the saturated fats and have lots of salad and low carb veggies. Had a great chicken dish tonight, baked in the oven with tomatoes
and splashed with a dressing of wine, garlic, chicken stock (home made), mustard, lemon juice and thyme and accompanied by broccolini. As you have already found with the Atkins diet, not having a lot of cereal etc. can still make for interesting tasty meals
Many of the recipes for low carb could be cooked, some really great ones for fish and chicken, and then you could add more vegetables, pasta, etc for your family. If they won't eat what you eat, plus some stuff that you can't eat, then my answer would be "cook your own"! Bet they come to the party pretty quick.

HTH your decisions, and although this rotten diabetes does seem to be something that you are always having to deal with, life can be good once you get it sorted out.

vegan4health
08-23-2006, 06:49 PM
My riddle's answer was to become vegan. Astounding blood sugar results. LESS HUNGER!!! Weight loss. One less med already! Less micromanagement of what I eat. See the Vegetarian/vegan thread for the full story.

:ciao: CAN I SCREAM ANY LOUDER?!?!?:ciao:

:)