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vegan4health
08-27-2006, 11:16 AM
Here are some websites. I'm copying the full links for those interested.

http://www.govegan.net

This is a website by the author of several vegan cookbooks. It includes a "chatroom" aka forum that I've found to be very helpful. Many of her fans are amazing cooks and I've gotten great advice! I own her book
"La Dolce Vegan" which focuses on 'fast and easy' recipes. I find her intros to the recipes hilarious!

http://www.veg.ca

This is the website of the Toronto Vegetarian Association. For those of us who didn't become vegetarian first, it's very helpful. Before I went through this website, I didn't think becoming vegan was do-able. It gives ideas for vegetarian meals, about nutrition and how to get enough calcium, iron and protein. It's also been very helpful, particularly the tab "Living" and this link:

http://www.veg.ca/living/shortcuts.html

This page talks about how to grocery shop among other things. Note that this site is NOT geared to someone diabetic, so some of their advice - for example of getting fast-cooking noodles - aren't for us. As diabetics we need the heavy grains.

This info I gleaned from that article about diabetics on a low sugar low fat vegan diet losing more weight than those on the standard American Diabetes Assn diet. I'm not a professional!!! Find a dietician and confirm this. My success has been based on these ideas.

If our version of vegan needs to be low sugar then we need to avoid simple carbohydrates. Low fat means limiting oils mostly - plants aren't very high in fat, with the exception of avacados I've heard. Nuts and seeds have a lot of protein but also a lot of fat, but I'm told that because they're mostly unsaturated fats that these are more healthy choices vs a steak.

Good luck!

Mister Q
08-27-2006, 11:18 AM
A comprehensive guide to vegan/vegetarian beers, this also contains some useful links to other resources.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geraint.bevan/Vegetarian_beers.html

vegan4health
08-27-2006, 11:32 AM
Bear in mind that beer is alcohol - which converts to sugar. Many alcoholics find that when they sober up they're diabetic.

Mister Q
08-28-2006, 07:17 AM
My Grandfather always used to say the key to life is moderation in all things, the health benefits of moderate ammounts of alcohol are well documented, excessive consumption af anything can be bad for you.

vegan4health
08-28-2006, 11:10 AM
excessive consumption af anything can be bad for you.

It all depends on who you 'come to' beside, where your clothes are, where your wallet is, and whether you remember who this person is. :cheers:

Sometimes zero is better than numerous attempts at moderation...:albertein But that's for another kind of forum.

Mister Q
08-29-2006, 02:06 AM
It all depends on who you 'come to' beside, where your clothes are, where your wallet is, and whether you remember who this person is. :cheers:

Sometimes zero is better than numerous attempts at moderation...:albertein But that's for another kind of forum.

What you have described above is excess, and yes if you cant exercise moderation then you shouldn't indulge in the first place.

Not every alcholic indulgence of mine has ended has you descibe, I used to 'come to' on the floor, guess I was never that lucky to think about who....:cheers:

vegan4health
08-29-2006, 01:15 PM
What you have described above is excess, and yes if you cant exercise moderation then you shouldn't indulge in the first place.

Not every alcholic indulgence of mine has ended has you descibe, I used to 'come to' on the floor, guess I was never that lucky to think about who....:cheers:

Mister Q, I'm afraid that if you keep drinking like that, you'll never get to be an alcoholic. Keep practicing, though. :proud:

vegan4health
09-27-2006, 07:01 AM
I thought I'd bump this post up for anyone who's struggling with "what's supposed to work" but it isn't working.

lgvincent
09-27-2006, 07:07 AM
I would like to try to become a vegetarian but I've grown up eating meat and so it's hard trying to find substitutes although I'm hoping things like cheese and peanut butter and perhaps soy products will get the job done. I'll also have to give up things like leather since I feel that would be for the best, too.

rzrbks
09-27-2006, 09:05 AM
:topic:


Resources I've used becoming Vegan


No mention of the source of propulsion you've used to get there.

vegan4health
09-27-2006, 11:21 AM
:topic:





No mention of the source of propulsion you've used to get there.


???????? I don't get it. ???????

vegan4health
09-27-2006, 11:28 AM
I would like to try to become a vegetarian but I've grown up eating meat and so it's hard trying to find substitutes although I'm hoping things like cheese and peanut butter and perhaps soy products will get the job done. I'll also have to give up things like leather since I feel that would be for the best, too.

I grew up eating meat too. I only became vegan at the end of July. The sites above helped me find alternate sources of protein, iron, calcium, B12 etc.

I found a great brand of instant soups. The container was a 52g serving (before the water) that had 9g of protein and 11g of fibre. You may be interested to find out how much protein you need in a day. I need max
50g. There's protein in grains, in legumes (like lentils, chickpeas, beans etc), nuts & seeds, in soy products....It adds up quickly.

rzrbks
09-27-2006, 11:52 AM
From Wickipedia, about Vega (or Vegans)-----was j/k


Literature
*In Robert A. Heinlein's novel Have Space Suit-Will Travel, Vega hosts the planet of an advanced civilization which is the local representative and overseer of the Three Galaxies federation, and the curator of humanity after its discovery by the Three Galaxies.

*In Isaac Asimov's Foundation trilogy, Vega, or the Vegan planetary system, is understood to be an important business world, above all exporting Vegan tobacco. When Terminus, the home planet of Foundation, is isolated from the culture and sophistication of the innermost parts of the Galaxy, there is no more "mild Vegan tobacco" available, a fact repeatedly referred to by the characters of the first novel.

*In Carl Sagan's science fiction novel Contact (and the film adaptation), Earth receives a message from an extraterrestrial transmitter array orbiting Vega.

*In James Blish's Cities in Flight series, the Vega system is home to a civilization called the Vegan Tyranny, which the Earthmen must defeat before expanding out into the galaxy.

*In Jack Vance's series, the Demon Princes, Vega is the parent star of the planets Aloysius, Boniface and Cuthbert. Aloysius, in particular, features prominently in the five books.

*In Roger Zelazny's book This Immortal, the Vegans are a species of humanoid aliens who use the Earth as a vacation resort.

*In Ivan Efremov's book Andromeda Nebula, expedition from Earth has visited Vegan system and found it to be lifeless.

*In the Perry Rhodan series, book 5 The Vega Sector, book 6 The Secrets of the Time Vault, and book 6 Fortress of the Six Moons, Perry Rhodan and his crew fly to Vega and help the inhabitants of the 8th planet defeat the invaders from "Topsid". In the process they discover artifacts left by a very advanced race from whom they get the secret of immortality.


lg

I'll also have to give up things like leather since I feel that would be for the best, too.

But think how strong your jaw muscles have become chewing the leather, you'll lose all that muscle strength and tone.

vegan4health
09-27-2006, 12:28 PM
From Wickipedia, about Vega (or Vegans)-----was j/k ...

Oh, sci fi . That explains. I'm more into fantasy myself. :)


But think how strong your jaw muscles have become chewing the leather, you'll lose all that muscle strength and tone.

LOL.

I was surprised at this:
When some people say they're vegan that means they don't eat any animal products of any kind of course but that also includes, for example, prescriptions in a gelatin capsule (because gelatin is an animal product) or Vitamin D3 which is a dairy product; they don't wear anything from animals so no leather, no wool, no skins, of course no fur; they don't use anything tested on animals or products from any companies whose suppliers test them on animals (so that eliminates most commercial "health and beauty" products) (There ARE alternatives - don't worry they're not all running around with dirty hair and no deoderant!); they don't use products that are "sweatshop" products - so those cheap shoes at the bargain stores, even if they're all man-made materials, are still not ok because of the working conditions of the people making them.

There's a whole industry that caters to these needs. I was amazed.

rzrbks
09-27-2006, 01:39 PM
There ARE alternatives - don't worry they're not all running around with dirty hair and no deoderant!);


So what do you have against the way we were made by God?

vegan4health
09-27-2006, 04:13 PM
So what do you have against the way we were made by God?

<deep sigh>

It's called hygiene.

vegan4health
09-27-2006, 04:26 PM
Good luck and good bye.