New report, 1 in 523 kids diagnosed

[TenderVittleS]

www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-10-01-diabetes-young_x.htm

I thought this might interest some people. I believe this is from too many carbohydrates and processed foods our children eat. We really need to watch and advise our children about healthier eating or this country will be in bad shape when they grow up. I also believe the reason hispanics have a higher rate of diabetes is the amount of rice they eat, rice is one of the worst foods as well as chinese food for me.

[JediSkipdogg]

I saw that too and wasn't that surprised. Alot has to do with parents forcing kids to also clean up their plate. Don't you remember as a kid when you didn't want to eat anymore it was because you were full. Yes, I understand eating all the basic food groups, but stuffing one full is not the option. Also alot has to do with what do kids do these days? I grew up in the start of the video game age. I remember the Commodore 64, the Atari, the Intellivision, however, I played each of them within reason. The rest of the time I actually went outside and played. These days, kids spend 90% inside, 10% outside unless they are into sports, which that means they are already fit then.

[DeusXM]

I also believe the reason hispanics have a higher rate of diabetes is the amount of rice they eat

Could also be genetic predisposition. Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are particularly prone to diabetes (with a high rice intake), but rates for diabetes in Chinese, Japanese and Thais are (I think) a lot lower.

[kidvid]

These days, kids spend 90% inside, 10% outside unless they are into sports, which that means they are already fit then.

Whew - what a generalization! This is definately NOT my kids - they're outside stealing cars and tagging buildings, and running from cops - talk about exercise!


Joe

[JediSkipdogg]

Whew - what a generalization! This is definately NOT my kids - they're outside stealing cars and tagging buildings, and running from cops - talk about exercise!


Joe

LOL....that is true, so I'll add criminals to the list of athletes that don't fit int he main category. It's not really a generalization, but something research studies have shown. And it definitely does not apply to all kids.

So should we teach kids to steal and run from police more? I will admit, from a law enforcement perspective, chases are fun, dangerous, but usually fun. They give you something to talk about for the next day or two.

[Zapatka]

yeah--- type 2?

[Ailsa]

The juvenile crims around here are too fat to run fast!
Didn't you know they sell off your hard earned property so they can squander the proceeds on junk food?
Trouble iswe don't have enough cops & he courts are too lenient here.

[Stuboy]

i find it very h ard to beleive that carbohydrates can cause diabetes... good job really cuz i love my carby food, so at least i can't get it again!

[JediSkipdogg]

i find it very h ard to beleive that carbohydrates can cause diabetes... good job really cuz i love my carby food, so at least i can't get it again!

Think about it this way. For a non diabetic the more carbs they eat the harder their pancreas has to work to produce insulin to balance the carbs out. In doing this you are causing one of the causes of type 2 diabetes. One is basically burning out their pancreas.

[Stuboy]

so why some people and not others?

[JediSkipdogg]

so why some people and not others?

Why do some have heart attacks and others not? Why are some allergic to penacilin (sp?) and some not? Why did Carwy have cancer? It's all up to what the person's body and organs can tollerate as a max and what happens in the body. If we knew all those levels, we could prevent things years before they happen.

My grandfather passed away last summer at 85 from a heart attack basically. He was always an active person, just some reason had numerous heart bypass surgeries and passed away with his heart working at about 23% of what it should be. Yet my other grandfather lived to be in his mid 90s and never took any medications before he passed away. He volunteered in a hospital so he always had regular checkups, yet his sudden illness before passing was a huge surprise.

We jsut can't answer all the questions with the body.

[kidvid]

These days, kids spend 90% inside, 10% outside unless they are into sports, which that means they are already fit then.

Hey Jedi - kids in my part of the world kick a**. And they're not all sports fanatics either. Heck - just walk to school at mile high elevation and you'll get your cardio!

From the Center for Disease Control:

The prevalence of overweight among children aged 6-11 has more than doubled in the past 20 years, increasing from 7% in 1980 to 18.8% in 2004.

Regards,

Joe

[DeusXM]

Think about it this way. For a non diabetic the more carbs they eat the harder their pancreas has to work to produce insulin to balance the carbs out. In doing this you are causing one of the causes of type 2 diabetes. One is basically burning out their pancreas.

Come on, you know you don't believe this. You can't 'burn out' your pancreas. You're basically rehashing the old myth that diabetes is caused by eating too many sweets.

Eating loads of carbs can cause diabetes but only inasmuch as eating loads of carbs will probably make you fat, causing T2.

[Stuboy]

isn't it kind of like that... if you run all the time your heart beats faster so you're gonna wear it out?

[BriOnH]

I might have missed it but the article didn't say which diabetes the kids get in this 1 in 523 kids. As usual they lump the 2 types together which statistically has huge 2 very different meanings depending on type and cause of type.

[kidvid]

Quote from TV's South Park:

Cartman: You can just hang around outside all day tossing a ball around, or you can sit at your computer and do something that matters.

heh, heh....

Joe

[BlueSky]

Think about it this way. For a non diabetic the more carbs they eat the harder their pancreas has to work to produce insulin to balance the carbs out. In doing this you are causing one of the causes of type 2 diabetes. One is basically burning out their pancreas.
Thats kinda how it works. But the real issue is that the more carbs you eat, the more insulin receptors shut down to protect your organ an muscle cells from the toxic effects of glucose. In other words, excessive exposure to carbs causes insulin resistance. And it is the insulin resistance that forces your beta cells to produce ever increasing amounts of insulin, eventually wearing them out. :vollkomme

[TenderVittleS]

The reason I say too many carbs is that I know how the body works, I've grown up mostly around hispanic people and let me tell you their diets are filled with loads of carbs and sugar and fatty foods. I think this disease is more than just genetics and I make my presumptions from what I've seen and lived through, until I'm proven wrong I'll continue to believe what I see. Also too much sugar without brushing your teeth causes cavities too, just think about that.

[BriOnH]

The reason I say too many carbs is that I know how the body works, I've grown up mostly around hispanic people and let me tell you their diets are filled with loads of carbs and sugar and fatty foods. I think this disease is more than just genetics and I make my presumptions from what I've seen and lived through, until I'm proven wrong I'll continue to believe what I see. Also too much sugar without brushing your teeth causes cavities too, just think about that.

To say it's soley based on carbs is wrong. Especially, and I will presume, you are only talking about type 2 diabetes. If you are talking about type 1 you are 100% wrong instead of 2/3's. Genetics, foods, and exercise are the three keys to aquiring type 2 diabetes.

[BlueSky]

..... Genetics, foods, and exercise are the three keys to aquiring type 2 diabetes.
The genetics card is overplayed. The incidence of T2 is increasing far too rapidly for genetics to be be a driving force. Which leaves food and exercise ..... :dong:

[Harold]

From the above linked article:Type 1, or juvenile, diabetes is the form of the disease most often associated with children, but in recent years, type 2 cases have been found in children. Type 2 is usually diagnosed in older adults and is associated with a combination of genetic predisposition and obesity.

Until now, estimates of type 2 in children have been based on anecdotal reports from doctors' offices and diabetes clinics. "We didn't have uniform national information on rates of diabetes and children and youth," Lawrence says. This study "describes the scope of the problem," she says.

The researchers found that diabetes is more common in non-Hispanic whites than in other ethnic groups, and that type 1 diabetes is the most common form in young people of all racial and ethnic groups, except for American Indians, in whom more than three-quarters of cases are type 2. As usual the possibility that other enviromental factors, as in pesticides, indutrial wastes, plastics, and food additives, may be coming into play.

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