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Cyborg
11-25-2006, 07:03 PM
Anyone else, besides me, a raw fish fan? If so, how do you bolus for sashimi?
Dewey
11-25-2006, 10:50 PM
Heck Yeah! I love Sushi & sashimi, but since I usually eat sushi (with the rice), I have to bolus more (for the rice). :eating:
Fish, both cooked and raw, seem to have ZERO effect on my sugars.
Dewey
11-25-2006, 10:57 PM
Ah yes, fish doesn't, but if I eat something like Unagi (freshwater eel with a teriyaki-like sauce), I may need a little bit to cover the sauce. Fish doesn't have an effect on my bgs, it's what's on some of the fish that does (be it breading or sauces).
Ah yes, fish doesn't, but if I eat something like Unagi (freshwater eel with a teriyaki-like sauce), I may need a little bit to cover the sauce. Fish doesn't have an effect on my bgs, it's what's on some of the fish that does (be it breading or sauces).
My Korean mother interprets "sushi" as "sashimi", so whenever she used to take us out for "sushi" we'd get a pile of raw fish with no rice...Anyway, we never got the eel or any of the other marinated fish, we got the real, raw stuff. And lots of it. And I never noticed a change in blood sugar. Too bad I can't afford to eat like that now!
panda1076
03-10-2007, 06:54 AM
I never bolus for fish--raw or cooked.
Dewey--do you have any tips for bolusing for the sushi rice? Difficulty bolusing for sushi was my hardest adjustment to being diabetic! It's my favorite food...
At this point, I think I use 10 carbs per sushi piece (not nigiri). And I do bolus a little extra for the sauces or ginger.
I never bolus for fish--raw or cooked.
Dewey--do you have any tips for bolusing for the sushi rice? Difficulty bolusing for sushi was my hardest adjustment to being diabetic! It's my favorite food...
At this point, I think I use 10 carbs per sushi piece (not nigiri). And I do bolus a little extra for the sauces or ginger.
We have numerous local places that allow for carry-out sushi...Literally what I did was I seperated the rice out of a couple pieces and weighed it on my digital scale. I know how to bolus for rice (I have to, my mother is Korean), so that made my calculations easier.
orsaugen
03-10-2007, 09:35 AM
I havew given up on Sushi, and in my two favorite Japanese restaurants I head straight for the sashimi.
Cyborg
03-10-2007, 12:29 PM
I found that I can have one small roll with my sashimi. I estimate 22g of carb per roll. If I eat more than 1 roll, all bets are off and I usually end up with high bg. For a sashimi plate (appromimately 15 peices), I bolus for 60g of "equivalent carbs" using a 30/70 combo bolus over 3 hours.
Eri's mom
03-20-2007, 10:22 AM
Eri does fine w/ both the sushi and sashimi. Her bg's stay nice and boy, that kid LOVES that food!
(I brought home a philly roll yesterday and her dad got the sashimi, I only got TWO pieces...the kid beat me to the other 7...but I made sure the one had a LOT of wasabi...)...she also got to her dad's, but he was a lot quicker than her, she only got a few pieces.)
confuzed
03-20-2007, 01:00 PM
Don't want to go off topic, but rice. I went to the store the other day to look at the bags of rice with the nutritional facts on them. Much to my surprise, some were 0 carbs. If they are zero carbs, why then are they bad for you? I understood carbs to be the one that turned into sugar?
I'd like to have me some of that rice..tee hee... either a misprint or you accidentally read the wrong line.....
I think white rice is about 50 g carb per cup when cooked...
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someone
03-20-2007, 08:51 PM
I count 11 carbs for each piece of Nigiri sushi (the rice with fish on top). As for sashimi, I can't stand it without the rice, but would assume it to have no carbs.
Dewey
03-20-2007, 10:35 PM
Dewey--do you have any tips for bolusing for the sushi rice? Difficulty bolusing for sushi was my hardest adjustment to being diabetic! It's my favorite food...
At this point, I think I use 10 carbs per sushi piece (not nigiri). And I do bolus a little extra for the sauces or ginger.
For me, it depends on the amount of rice I'll be eating. Usually when I go for a sushi type of meal, I tend to eat a bit of the rice, too...I calculate for the rice & bolus with a combo bolus. It usually seems to work, unless I under or over-estimate the amount of rice carbs I'll be eating.
I absolutely Love tuna, salmon & yellowtail! Makes me want to go out & grab some now....I especially love the rolls wrapped in seaweed! YUM! :eating:
ant hill
03-21-2007, 01:19 AM
For me, it depends on the amount of rice I'll be eating. Usually when I go for a sushi type of meal, I tend to eat a bit of the rice, too...I calculate for the rice & bolus with a combo bolus. It usually seems to work, unless I under or over-estimate the amount of rice carbs I'll be eating.
I absolutely Love tuna, salmon & yellowtail! Makes me want to go out & grab some now....I especially love the rolls wrapped in seaweed! YUM! :eating:
I'm having fried rice now and i'm doing a bridged bolus meaning i'll take half of short acting have your meal and the other half two hours after the first shot then test 2 hours after that.
As for the raw fish i do like the smoked samon, Macrel, Pilchards, And tuna. So they are packed with protien and there is a lot of carbs in these fish. Hey dewey where is a good fish market??:eating:
confuzed
03-21-2007, 11:32 AM
I'd like to have me some of that rice..tee hee... either a misprint or you accidentally read the wrong line.....
I think white rice is about 50 g carb per cup when cooked...
ss
No, really. Next time you go to the store, take a look at the bags of Mahatma rice (I think) and Calrose rice, among others. It says 0 carbs. Boggles my mind. :confused:
ahh...just went to mahatma rice site...for quarter cup it says 32-35 gram carb per serving....but 0g SUGARS....
so still pretty carby I'm afraid....
ss
confuzed
03-21-2007, 01:27 PM
ahh...just went to mahatma rice site...for quarter cup it says 32-35 gram carb per serving....but 0g SUGARS....
so still pretty carby I'm afraid....
ss
My bad, I think it was sugar that I was looking at. :hmmmm2: I'll learn this soon enough, but how come then brown rice has sugar and better for you?:hmmmm:
jvetter18
03-21-2007, 01:43 PM
Confuzed,
Forget about even looking at that sugar line. It means nothing!
Only look at total Carbs.
Then take Total Carbs and minus the Fiber. That's what your only concern should be.
So if you cooked some Uncle Bens Brown Rice:
1 cup cooked has
36g total carbs
minus
2g Fiber
= 34 net carbs
this is why eating things with more fiber can buy you some flexiblity carb wise. Ex. whole grain bread, fiberous stuff
confuzed
03-21-2007, 02:43 PM
mK........
ClaireZk
04-09-2007, 06:25 PM
Sushi is so tricky for me! I love it, but I still haven't gotten it right...
I bolus for just the rice, but I can't seem to figure out how many carbs are in each roll. I always WAY overestimate.
I don't know proper names, but the little tuna rolls with the seaweed have to only be about 3g carbs each, because I counted them as 5g and I crashed pretty bad.
Ronin
05-02-2007, 05:14 PM
Hi Everyone!
I'm going to get a bit technical here. Sushi, in Japanese refers to vinegared rice (with a bit of sugar -- yikes!). In addition, the type of rice used to make Sushi is a high starch variety that is very sticky (due to the higher than normal starch content). Sushi, therefore, refers to any food served with this kind of prepared rice.
The most common form of this is "Nigiri Sushi" which are the artful rolls, and decorated rice balls served in most Japanese (style) restaurants. Chirashi sushi is the home-style version with raw fish and vegetables served in a bowl on top of a bunch of the sushi rice.
Sashimi is simply raw fish served with a bit of wasabi on the side and shoyu (soy sauce).
How does one "bolus" for sushi? As a Pre-D I don't know, but will re-state that the rice being used is both high in starch and has had a mixture of vinegar and sugar added to make it more sticky and give it a bit of flavor.
Sashimi, to the best of my knowledge, has zero carbs, mostly protien, and unless it is a fatty fish, almost no fat either.
Imperatrix
05-02-2007, 05:46 PM
Hi Everyone!
I'm going to get a bit technical here. Sushi, in Japanese refers to vinegared rice (with a bit of sugar -- yikes!). In addition, the type of rice used to make Sushi is a high starch variety that is very sticky (due to the higher than normal starch content). Sushi, therefore, refers to any food served with this kind of prepared rice.
The most common form of this is "Nigiri Sushi" which are the artful rolls, and decorated rice balls served in most Japanese (style) restaurants. Chirashi sushi is the home-style version with raw fish and vegetables served in a bowl on top of a bunch of the sushi rice.
Sashimi is simply raw fish served with a bit of wasabi on the side and shoyu (soy sauce).
How does one "bolus" for sushi? As a Pre-D I don't know, but will re-state that the rice being used is both high in starch and has had a mixture of vinegar and sugar added to make it more sticky and give it a bit of flavor.
Sashimi, to the best of my knowledge, has zero carbs, mostly protien, and unless it is a fatty fish, almost no fat either.
Yes! Yes! :D I used to be a big fan of chirashi-zushi, but I lost my taste for the fish a few years back. So I made my own version with just vegetables and rice...but now I don't even have that. (sobbing).
Now when I eat at my favorite Japanese restaurant, I limit myself to edamame and a simple Japanese vegetable salad with a gingered dressing. The dressing has a bit of mirin in it---which, of course, is sweet---but if I am light-handed with the dressing, it does not send my BGs into outer space...!
someone
05-02-2007, 07:19 PM
The most common form of this is "Nigiri Sushi" which are the artful rolls, and decorated rice balls served in most Japanese (style) restaurants.
Right, Nigiri-zushi are the ones that are just fish on top of the rice and Gunkan-maki are the rolls. Anyone interested can have a look at Sushi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sushi).
Here are the nutrition facts:
Nigiri -- CalorieKing - Calorie Counter - Calories in Japanese, Meals: Sushi-Nigiri (Fish on Rice), average all types (http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-meals-sushi-nigiri-fish-on-rice-average-all-types_f-Y2lkPTQwNDkxJmJpZD00OTQmZmlkPTY0NTU2JmVpZD0xNDU1Mz c3ODQmcG9zPTIzJnBhcj0ma2V5PXN1c2hp.html)
Sashimi -- CalorieKing - Calorie Counter - Calories in Japanese, Meals: Sashimi, Fish (Hissho Sushi) (http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-meals-sashimi-fish-hissho-sushi_f-Y2lkPTQwNDkxJmJpZD00OTQmZmlkPTEwMDAwMzk3JmVpZD0xND U1MzgyMTcmcG9zPTIxJnBhcj0ma2V5PXN1c2hp.html)
Maki -- CalorieKing - Calorie Counter - Calories in Japanese, Meals: Sushi, Maki Rolls, small, average all types (Hissho Sushi) (http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-meals-sushi-maki-rolls-small-average-all-types-hissho-sushi_f-Y2lkPTQwNDkxJmJpZD00OTQmZmlkPTY0NTU0JmVpZD0xNDU1Mz g0MDMmcG9zPTIyJnBhcj0ma2V5PXN1c2hp.html)
I have always bolused according to those. I don't see what the big deal in counting carbs for sushi is..
ant hill
05-03-2007, 12:28 AM
Is rice for a start is a glucose trigger?? and as for bolusing rice is a low GI food so i would do a dual 2 hour apart injections. :D
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