Type 1 diagnosis experient

[Nussbrand1937]

I highly suspect I have Type 1 because of many symptoms I experienced.

I just tested my blood sugar and it was in ok levels (82). Regardless, I feel this result may be caused by the fact that I didn't eat much carbohydrates lately. 18h before the test I had a chili soup and a tuna-toast-that's it.

Now I want to test it again, but this time I'm going to eat a pizza before I check my blood sugar.
How long should I wait after I finished my pizza to get the most valid result? How long does it take to decompose the carbohydrates to glucose?

[liz32]

you should peak in 2 hours, if I'm not mistaken you should be pretty much normal sugar wise if no diabetes
liz

[LantusFiend]

Pizza can peak funny in a lot of people. Why not check after 90 minutes, 120 minutes, and 150 minutes?

[DeusXM]

Don't do the experiment with pizza - that's the equivilent of drinking a bottle of regular Coke, doing a blood test and then going 'oh look, high blood sugar. I must be diabetic'.

The best blood test you can do in terms of measuring blood glucose is a fasting BG. Don't eat for 12 hours, and then test.

[Nussbrand1937]

But can't you say the same thing with not eating for 12h? Of course it's going to be low after that time period...(?)
I already did the experiment with not eating anything for 18h - as illustrated in the first post.

Thanks for the general feedback

[Scratch]

But can't you say the same thing with not eating for 12h? Of course it's going to be low after that time period...(?)
I already did the experiment with not eating anything for 18h - as illustrated in the first post.

Thanks for the general feedback
If you're a type 1 diabetic and incapable of producing insulin, your blood sugar will not come down while fasting.

If you're a type 2 diabetic, and capable of producing insulin, perhaps in diminished capacity, or into a body with an elevated level of insulin resistance, or a combination of those two factors, then after 12 hours of fasting your blood sugar levels may well be normal to near normal.

The fact that your BGL was 82 mg/dl after prolonged fasting almost certainly rules out you being type 1.

It is still possible that you may be a type 2 diabetic. Best way to determine that is to see a doctor, tell him your symptoms, and based upon that he may have blood drawn to see what your HbA1c is, and/or have a glucose tolerance test administered.

[camjen1]

But can't you say the same thing with not eating for 12h? Of course it's going to be low after that time period...(?)
I already did the experiment with not eating anything for 18h - as illustrated in the first post.

Thanks for the general feedback

Nuss, I'm a T1 and after fasting for 12+ hours with no insulin I would be more likely then not above 200 maybe even 300. Now if I fasted for 12+ hours with a basal insulin I will be within the normal range. That being of course if my basal was set just right.

[xMenace]

If you were a type 1, you wouldn't be normal after 18hrs. There's more going on in your bod than just food intake. Most of us D's recognize the fact that we require guite a bit of basal insulin just to keep us stable without food intake.

You should consult a doctor and explore all possible causes of your symptoms.

[notme]

Sandi and X are absolutely correct. I have eaten dinner, taken my insulin and tested normal before bed. Then after a bath, I have forgotten to put my pump back on and slept all night with no basal insulin. I will wake up in the 300's or higher.

However, if you suspect you might have type 2 diabetes, I would contact your doctor. Doing a random testing on your own will give you inaccurate results.

Call your doctor Nussbrand. Trying to do these medical tests on your own could be dangerous to your health.

[Nussbrand1937]

Type 2 is unlikely, since I'm not obese; quite the contrary is the case...

[Scratch]

Type 2 is unlikely, since I'm not obese; quite the contrary is the case...
Type 2 diabetics don't have to be obese. Obesity is considered one factor that increases chances of a person developing typ2 diabetes. But there are thin type 2 diabetics.

Really, the most glaring piece of evidence we have here is your fasting blood glucose, over 18 hours, at 82 mg/dl. That so strongly contradicts the possibility of type 1 that type 1 can be considered so highly improbable that if you are having symptoms such as exessive thirst and urination, then type 2 is the only really likely possibility.

[Funnygrl]

With a bs of 82, I highly doubt you have any diabetes, and can gurantee you don't have type 1. My set has been bad since this morning, and I'm just changing it now, and my bs is 320, cause I went a few hours without insulin.

[Nussbrand1937]

Unquenchable Thirst
Frequent Urination
Dry skin
Knee itch
Chest itch
Foot itch
Hand itch
Continuous myopia in the last 7 yrs with irregular curvature of the cornea
12h of sleep being usual on the holidays
Feeling cold

These are the symptoms I've observed. I've scheduled an appointment for Jan 2nd.

[Funnygrl]

Itches, and myopia aren't related to diabetes. I have never heard of "feeling cold" as being related either.

I'm not trying to discount your symptoms, I'm just saying it doesn't sound like diabetes and exploring other routes may be worth while. Of course your doctor will help you with this.

[mark-TN]

Unquenchable Thirst
Frequent Urination
Dry skin
Knee itch
Chest itch
Foot itch
Hand itch
Continuous myopia in the last 7 yrs with irregular curvature of the cornea
12h of sleep being usual on the holidays
Feeling cold

These are the symptoms I've observed. I've scheduled an appointment for Jan 2nd.

Have them check your thyroid.

Mark

[Nussbrand1937]

Itches, and myopia aren't related to diabetes. I have never heard of "feeling cold" as being related either.

The last two maybe not, but - according to Multiple Symptoms (http://symptoms.wrongdiagnosis.com/) - the itches might be related.


Have them check your thyroid.

Mark

With ultrasound?
What do you suspect?

[Funnygrl]

With ultrasound?
What do you suspect?

Usually a blood test is done to check T3, T4, and TSH levels.

[sweetcheeks]

Itches, and myopia aren't related to diabetes. I have never heard of "feeling cold" as being related either.

I'm not trying to discount your symptoms, I'm just saying it doesn't sound like diabetes and exploring other routes may be worth while. Of course your doctor will help you with this.


i never felt cold until after my blood sugar went to normal after months, i also feel like its got to do with me losing 46 lbs and have lost all that insulation lol but being cold before hand nah dont think so

[PeptideBong]

Before I knew I was type 1 I was lsoing weight like crazy add pissing like a race horse. I remember eating 2 slices of pizza, each having 100 g of carbs, and having headaches and pissing like a race horse all night and not being able to sleep. A couple of weeks later I tested my blood sugar on my brother's meter and it read "HI". Needless to say I went to the Doc a couple of days later and told him I was type 1. He looked at me funny, took some urine a BG reading. The urine had ketones in ti and the bg reading was 29. He arranged an amittance at the hospital to get me on insulin immediately. Now that is what you can expect if you are type 1 my friend.

[camjen1]

With ultrasound?
What do you suspect?

some of the symptoms you listed are also symptoms of hypothyroidism

Fatigue
Weakness
Weight gain or increased difficulty losing weight
Coarse, dry hair
Dry, rough pale skin
Hair loss
Cold intolerance (can't tolerate the cold like those around you)
Muscle cramps and frequent muscle aches
Constipation
Depression
Irritability
Memory loss
Abnormal menstrual cycles
Decreased libido

[lilituc]

I've always heard that by the time you have an abnormal fasting test, many of the beta cells have already been destroyed. That's why the Glucose Tolerance Test is a better indicator of early diabetes. So you can be a Type 1 diabetic with a normal fasting, especially if you have LADA.

[Funnygrl]

I've always heard that by the time you have an abnormal fasting test, many of the beta cells have already been destroyed. That's why the Glucose Tolerance Test is a better indicator of early diabetes. So you can be a Type 1 diabetic with a normal fasting, especially if you have LADA.
I agree, but 82 isn't only normal, it's low normal. And LADA is type 1, but certainly not classic type 1. I know some medical professionals hate the gtt for false positives though, and feel it has no place in the diagnosis of diabetes.

[LantusFiend]

Most type 1 diabetics are diagnosed while they are still producting some insulin. Myself included. That's called the honeymoon period.:king:

[lilituc]

I agree, but 82 isn't only normal, it's low normal. And LADA is type 1, but certainly not classic type 1. I know some medical professionals hate the gtt for false positives though, and feel it has no place in the diagnosis of diabetes.

And yet my fasting was 75-89 for at least a year. I'm just saying that's it doesn't mean for sure that it's not Type 1.