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newlife88

01-28-2007, 08:23 PM

duck

01-28-2007, 08:28 PM

Egad (I never use that word in real life)...Ashlie, how about you get him to sign up here? From what you describe, there is some work to do, but it will literally be up to him. And if he is not willing to do it, the both of you are in for a world of hurt. But if he is willing to work at it, he can beat this thing like a drum. There will be some ups and downs, but he can have the ability to take control of this disease. There are a lot of Type 2's here who live very, very healthy lives, so it is very possible.

BTW, welcome to the forum.

xMenace

01-28-2007, 08:44 PM

JediSkipdogg

01-28-2007, 08:49 PM

160 is actually a high number. If he's sweating, my first guess is his meter is way off. First thing to do is make sure his meter is accurate. Get the manual and learn how to calibrate it. Maybe invest in a new one. A reliable meter is vital.

It could also be his body thinks say 300 is normal and therefore it takes a 160 as low. I've seen that happen before.

What needs to happen is he needs to get his body to adjust to being low. Say shoot for 250 for a week then the next week try 225 then try 200. Just keep lowering it each week till he can aim for under 150 all the time.

How often does he currently test? That may be the first key is testing more. Is insulin his only treatment? I'm glad to see you come here and hopefully together we can make him live a long and happy life.

JasonJayhawk

01-28-2007, 10:26 PM

Egads! (I never use that word in real life, either!)

If he's only 27 years old and has Type 2 diabetes, that's not a good shape to be in. Are you sure he's Type 2? (Is he overweight?) Getting exercise is as important as sleeping and eating with diabetes. However, he'll want to work on getting his glycemic control taken care of first. :nurse:

Take one step at a time. Get him to sign up here on the boards so we can chat with him!

KickStart101

01-28-2007, 11:08 PM

Hi There. Welcome to Tony's :wavey: Forums. I
hope that you enjoy your stay with us. Sorry,
to hear that your SO hasn't gotten his Diabetes
under control. Since he is 27 yrs. old I would think
it is his responsibility to take the main role in looking
after himself, not you. Thank you for trying to help
him.

He can eat normal foods, steak, pork chops, fish, chicken,
stews, liver(:puke: :D ), roasts, soups, eggs, bacon, small
portions of white food like potatoes (not every day).
Preferably brown rice, whole wheat pastas, whole wheat
bread, most vegetables and fruits, small amounts of peanut
butter, pickles, olives, cheese, yogurt, unsweetened applesause,
jello, etc. He can have a couple cookies occasionally but he has
to test his blood and take his medication if he's on any. No junk
foods like donuts or double helpings either. Of course, he probably
won't appreciate you telling him what not to eat. It is important
that he exercise also. Tell him to chase you around the house 7
times. Anyhowsie, Good Luck in your relationship. ;)

AJ21

01-30-2007, 09:00 AM

i'm confused ....
if he's injecting, then isn't he's no longer a type 2... wouldn't he be considered a type 1.5?

newlife88

01-31-2007, 08:04 PM

duck

01-31-2007, 08:07 PM

newlife88

01-31-2007, 08:26 PM

umm hey thanks 4 putting what u did because i know hes type 2 .... and that guys like uhh no... yeah he has to take shots in his stomach its kinda gross ..... but i get to prick his finger and put the blood on the accura checker thing ............ he said **** get on here in a minute :captain:

ASHLIE

duck

01-31-2007, 08:40 PM

How often do you all check his sugars? Is he ever "normal" or in a readable range?

newlife88

01-31-2007, 08:46 PM

ok u tell me, whats normal ? its usually 400 up to well were the checker wont tell me the lowest was 2 days ago it was 63 and he was sweating and he ate 5 piesces of cake hahha ok not good but he said he needed it on a certain insulins its in nthe low 200s :sleep: he just passed out sleeping as usual luckily he doesnt have a cigarette or a drink in his hand

duck

01-31-2007, 08:52 PM

"Normal" for you is about 70. "Normal" for a diabetic is debatable, but let's say 100-140 just to keep it simple.

From what you describe, I'm not 100% convinced your hunny is a Type 2. I get this feeling he was diagnosed as a T2 because of his age, and not because of his symptoms, but I'm not a doctor and obviously I could be very, very wrong. Now, if he is a Type 1, he needs corrective actions pretty fast. Also, from what I am reading, he seems a bit busy to be bothered by all this, but I would advise that he does get bothered. This is serious stuff if left unchecked.

I'd be curious to know: How many times a day does he check his blood sugars? What kind(s) of insulin is he taking? How much is he taking? When? I'm not trying to be preachy or nosy, he can tell me (or anyone, LOL) to back off, it won't bug me. But this disease can be managed, he can feel better, and he doesn't need to be in the 400's or the 60's.

newlife88

01-31-2007, 08:59 PM

umm welp its been an hour after i checked it it was well hi... i just pricked him.. hes sleeping too hahah its 154

he usually check it before dinner so i know what to cook and if i think he should have cake or something else for dessert umm the seringe says .22 he takes that once i am pretty sure hes suppose to more then that... accu check is the checker the insulin is................lantus 100ml

duck

01-31-2007, 09:03 PM

He went from HI to 154 in an hour?!?!?!? Ashlie, check him in 30 minutes and make him eat if he is lower than 154...like lower than 120.

And you both need to reconsider feeding on cakes, etc., for a little while. But we'll burn that bridge later...

Stuboy

02-01-2007, 09:06 AM

Lantus is a basal insulin not a rapid.

Sounds like this guy needs some serious help in controlling his diabetes, and he needs it quickly. Going up and down like you've been describing is not going him any good at all.. he will end up with some nasty complications he if doesn't bring this under control.

Cielo

02-01-2007, 11:07 AM

How long ago did you say he was diagnosed? Did someone sit down and teach him what he needs to be eating and doing to control his diabetes? It sounds like he isn't knowledgeable on his diabetes and/or chooses not to control it.

Laur

02-01-2007, 11:13 AM

Hi, I've actually never posted before, but reading this thread made me have to write something. What I suggest is to make an appointment with an Endocrinologist IMMEDIATLY. I don't think that your boyfriend has been given enough information or the info that has been given wasn't explained in away that makes complete sense. Since you clearly play an enormously active role in your boyfriends health, I suggest you going with him to his appointments. The Diabetes Forum is a great place to get advice and exchange ideas, but it seems that you need to learn the basics of what goes into living with diabetes. I hope you get the help you need as soon as possible. Although diabetes is manageable and you can live a beautiful healthy life with it, it can also be extremly dangerous if not kept under control. Please seek the expertise of an Endocrinologist.

Best of Luck

MJM

02-01-2007, 12:21 PM

hello everyone im ashlie i am in a long term relationship and the guy im falling in love with has type 2 it scares me because i dunno nothing about it. he has blurred vision, his blood sugar wil get up to 480 he takes insulin shots, but after an hour of taking his insulin he litterally passes out **** drop cups of tea,pop,milk whatever. he sweats horribly if its down to 160's... ive been staying with him, what can i do i cook and im trying to help him what can i cook for him ?

:confused::confused:

any body wanna talk to me about it
so young and i wanna help so bad

Hi Ashlie, Welcome to the forum. Firstly I have to congratulate you on your foresight in joining here. You'll get all the help and support here to try and help you overcome the problem.

Others have probably said it all by now, but I'll add a little more. Firstly it is imperative that he gets control of his diabetes. If he doesn't he can expect a pretty awful time and dreadfull life-threatening complications in the not too distant future, plus a probable shortened lifespan.

Now it's possible that he is not aware of this, so could I suggest that you perhaps contact the American Diabetes Association, and if you are not getting the help and support from your doctor, perhaps change to one who specialises in diabetes. He seriously needs to alter and concentrate on controling this disease, for it is controllable.

Now I'm a type1 diabetic and have had this for almost 48 years. I'm in pretty good health and am still very active, exercising 4 or 5 times weekly, and eating mostly good food. An odd exception won't do anyone any harm, but continuous exceptions will, and can do serious damage to various organs, plus make it more difficult to maintain control.

It basically all boils down to the one you love. If he doesn't want to have a good lifestyle and live a long and healthy life, then there probably isn't a whole lot you can do. It's his disease and it's only him who can take a grip of it and make life easier and more enjoyable for himself and of course for his loved ones.

Try and persuade him to join this site and it certainly would be a step in the right direction. He has a tremendous amount to learn about diabetes, so perhaps both of you could read books on it from a library or read about it from various sites on your computer.

Again Ashlie, you've shown great courage in doing what you're doing and I sincerely hope you both can get things sorted before damage is done. Keep trying Ashlie, you are marvellous.

princesslinda

02-01-2007, 12:31 PM

Hi Ashlie:
As you can see from all the previous responses, this is a very serious situation and you both need to go to see an endocrinologist who can give him the help he needs and explain to both of you what's going on and what you can do to minimize risks and complications.

Diabetes is such a serious matter. If he doesn't get some control over it, it will control him and the results will be devestating, for both of you.

My mother was a T2 diabetic, diagnosed at age 28. She felt good for the most part and so she just continued to ignore it, swallowing a pill a day and otherwise doing whatever she wanted. She made it okay for about 20 years before the complications started. When she was in her late 40's, she developed a sore on her great toe and it turned black...she subsequently had her foot amputated. This didn't heal due to poor circulation so she had to have her leg removed to just below the knee. Again, this didn't heal and she had to have an above the need amputation...by the time she was 50, she had had a heart attack and was going blind due to diabetic retinopathy. She died of renal failure at age 54. I think a lot of this could have been avoided had she taken care of herself and kept her levels under good control.

I'm not trying to say this will happen to your precious boyfriend, i'm only saying that UNCONTROLLED DIABETES CAN KILL YOU! I think you both need to go and find out what it is going to take to get control of his blood sugars...what diet and lifestyle modifications will work best for him and what medications he needs (there are so many different ones...he just needs to find what works best for his situation).

He's so young, if he takes care of this, you all should have a long an happy life together. If he ignores it, it won't be as pleasant.

He's so lucky to have such a caring person as yourself in his life. You keep on him until he goes to the doctor. Keep a log of all his blood sugars and you go with him and hear what the doctor has to say. It's much easier to deal with if you have someone in your corner. My husband has been an absolute gem in helping me get control of my diabetes...just by his non-judgmental and unconditional love and support.

Please keep us informed on how you both are doing. You're not alone.

Nita

02-01-2007, 12:54 PM

well... thanks everone for responding back to me...

yeah hes 27 and nope hes not over weight hes 27 6 foot one and weighs 210.. as i c he needs to exsersize ok alot more hes doesnt at all but he did when he was in training for iraq.. he just got back not to long ago,

he has a problem with candy bars and root beer :mad:
i try ok i am now.....

today the accura check wouldnt tell us what his blood sugar was except it just said HI... ok now that **** worries me ... so he took the FAST ACTING insulin as he calls it

ASHLIE

well... thanks everone for responding back to me...

yeah hes 27 and nope hes not over weight hes 27 6 foot one and weighs 210.. as i c he needs to exsersize ok alot more hes doesnt at all but he did when he was in training for iraq.. he just got back not to long ago,

he has a problem with candy bars and root beer :mad:
i try ok i am now.....

today the accura check wouldnt tell us what his blood sugar was except it just said HI... ok now that **** worries me ... so he took the FAST ACTING insulin as he calls it

I am confused here....not hard to do.....**SMILE** Is he taking more than one kind of insulin? What does he call "FAST ACTING"? I am taking Humalog before each meal and Lantus for a 24 hour assist. Is he injecting the Lantus more than once a day?

Gosh, I use E-Gad and also Fiddle-dee-dee.

Hope you are getting some help here....these folks are fabulous!

Nita

ASHLIE

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newlife88

02-02-2007, 05:26 PM

ok welp first off i thank everyone for helping me but :bawling:

guess what.. last night he was entered into the hospital, for blurry vision they checked his sugar was 675 and he was shaking they kept putting insulin in him then put a Iv in then did a oxygen Gas test in his artery ( he didnt like that) .... they couldnt find his veins and they had to keep sticking him he was dehydrated ... his mom came with us as the doctor put the 2nd iv in i just looked at him and began to cry im falling for him soo fast and i care about him soooo much i cant lose him. they said he had ADB a sickness for diabetics when it gets to high or to low

See im a preschool teacher and i work at 7-4 but i wasnt leaving him, the doctor said **** have to stay after all the meds(insulin,ivys delodin*4 the headaches) hes going to be admitted in and have to stay over night. So his mom left around 10 i stayed, every hour they came in checked his sugar, blood pressure, and then do insulin or more deloden*sp..... i got up around 4 am. He twitched and woke up and said " where you going babe?" he didnt want me to leave but i did for a sec.... i couldnt call in because the phones there were long distance. ( which was stupid) soo his mom called my work....

he had to eat his sugar went 120, then to 336, then around 1 we both were getting antsy and i just wanted him to come home... i kept asking the nurse can i just doctor him at home.. he got released at 3 i think they let him go because we bugged m to much hahaha......

im glad hes home...:thumbsup:

duck

02-02-2007, 06:12 PM

Ashlie,

Until he wants to fix this, it isn't going to get fixed. Let me be clear: this can KILL him. Certainly, it will kill him slowly if he is out of control. But the story you just described tells me it could kill him swiftly. Most of us here know this and we do what we have to do to both fight this ****ed disease and regain some normalcy to our lives. I'm not quite sure your hunny realizes this, though.

Honestly, YOU can only do so much. He will have to want to change. And if he does not, then I'm not sure what to tell you. We can only help him if he is willing. I'm going to ask that you get him to sign up here (again) and if he doesn't want to, I'd probably advise you to move on as well (in this relationship with him) because you'll only be setting yourself up for heartbreak.

slipperyelm

02-02-2007, 07:36 PM

So what is the plan since he's at home? If nothing changes, he will be back in the same situation again. I mean, he is still in the same situation if there are to be no changes.

Numbers in the 300's are -- oh, gosh, I hate to say it for fear he might read it and just use it for ammo to aim at himself and say his situation is hopeless so why bother trying. But blood glucose (sugar) in the 300's are quite bad for him. And when all his meter would do is tell you "HI" ---That is because his blood glucose is an emergency situation and he should get emergency medical help. When his blood glucose is so high that a home machine can't even measure it, then help is needed!

It might be hard for him, but he probably could make some changes, a little at a time to get better and better. I hope he'll come talk to us here where there are lots of type 2 diabetics with all kinds of experiences dealing with it. I hope he stayed at the hospital long enough to get a referral for whatever diabetic education he needs. Wish he'd stayed long enough to get his blood glucose comfortably down.

newlife88

02-03-2007, 10:06 AM

welp me and dustin have worked out a plan, check his sugar in the a.m... fresh fruits and vegetables are now part of what **** be eating ok ill be fixing...:star: im trying hahaha

ummm he hasnt had a soda hes been drinking only milk and water

he told me he wants to change...... i know i can only do so much but if he knows how much i care then **** try harder i noticed that evrytime i showed concern to the nurses then the more he did to, its his body but i want him to know getting in a relationship with a diabetic deals with me too....

also working out and talking walks is going to be more in our days were going to do that together since i have heart problems and exsersize will help him alot to .... also he doesnt know it yet but his cigarette intake is going to get lower i smoke a lil myself and sooo ill jut leave him some when i go to work.... right now he stays home and takes care of his 3yr old untill he goes to work...

Thanks and yes were both trying hes going to start to help to :handkiss:

ASHLIE

w5wjp

02-03-2007, 11:10 AM

How much do really love him?

If you really do you will get his butt to an endocrinologist immediately. He needs to taught what to do and get a good reality check on what this disease can do to him.

Ask if he wants to see his kid graduate from high school, if he does, tell him seeing eye dog will but he won't unless he gets to the doctor now.

Ask him if he loves you, if he does tell him make it good now because it won't last long, diabetes will kill or cripple him.

If he was in Iraq, remind him about the guys that lost a foot or leg....he will join them. Diabetes loves to take feet and legs.

Take him to a dialysis clinic....ask if he likes what he sees, he will be there too....diabetes loves kidneys too.

If he still doesn't shape up...dump him unless you want to take care of cripple the rest of your life. Get tough with him....no pity. Too many diabetics say "oh, poor me. I am doomed.". B**S***...get over it and take care of it. It can be controlled.

Cielo

02-03-2007, 03:08 PM

I agree with what w5wjp just said...If you really want to help, you have to be firm and make him see a doctor and make him help himself. This "easing into it" attitude won't cut it. He's already soooooo out of control with his numbers that is is extremely dangerous. I'm not sure from the tone of your posts that you realize that, and it's clear that he doesn't realize it either from his choice of diet, ie: soda and cake.

Now I'm not a diabetic, but isn't fruit a food that he should avoid, at least until he gets a grip on his diabetes? Maybe some other members on here could provide a good alternative for his breakfast...and other meals of the day.

And I agree also with what several people on here have stated....if he isn't going to help himself and is letting his diabetes control him....you are indeed setting yourself up for heartbreak and despair as he faces a very slow and painful demise.

sweetcheeks

02-03-2007, 05:29 PM

he can have fruit but only moderation 2 - 4 servings a day....
more veggies, meat, cheese

1 cup raw veggies to 1/2 cup cooked veggies...... all green such as lettuce, cucumbers, peppers he can have as much as he wants

the no no no's at least for right now
pasta
potatoes
rice
bread

once he gets more control over this he might be able to work it back in a little by little but still he shouldnt go over board on this even then

cheryl

02-03-2007, 05:56 PM

You poor thing going thru all this and this just stinks, I have had diabetes for 16 yrs and I was hitting an all time low last year, I was out of control and doing what I wanted, kind of lack of education.

Ok since your boyfriend is on insulin then you guys need to learn about carb counting and matching that insulin to it. This is the problem too. His whole insulin is off period. It is no one's fault, it is just something that happens to a lot of us, I for one wasn't taught anything period.

For now, my suggestion is too stick to a certain amount of carbs per meal, milk has carbs in it so it has to match the insulin. What I mean by carbs is carbohydrates. He cannot eat inbetween meals for right now, he must only eat when he takes his fast acting insulin or of course when he is hypo or low blood sugar then let him sip on that rootbear to make him feel better. When you start getting those blood sugars back on track, you will experience a lot of lows so don't freight about that it is normal.

For now, the goal should not see anything over 300 period and then work those numbers down. Ok, if he is gonna eat fruit, make sure their is protein with that fruit, this slows down the absorbtion of it, in the body. For now stay away from white flour. I would also cut out high fatty foods for the time being because he probably has a high cholesterol due to the fact of high high blood sugars. Skinless chicken, lean turkey, lean red meat, is really good option for right now. Becarful with potatoes they can spike a blood sugar too, if at all possible what does he like to eat. Another good thing to look at is ingredients, I have noticed for myself and a lot of type 2's that I know personally stay away from any hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oil, this spikes the sugar so no cool whip, or crisco and they make a promise margarine and peanutbutter with none of these oils in it. Stay away from msg, this spikes sugars high too. I am sorry loads of info, but I was on this other forum about two months ago and this guys wife came on and was stating how her husband was out of control he is 27, and he would not listen to her, and he had a heartattack and 27 can you believe it. I am glad you came on here and the time to take action is now.

I feel you came here for a reason and hope that your boyfriend will pop in and see this is a lot more serious than one tends to think.......Good luck to both of you and if you have any more questions, anyone on here and I would be happy to help, I know I have been there, I understand what he is going thru.

Cheryl