Depression

[carolyn]

Hello. Do any of you out there get very down and depressed with being d. I feel totally alone and useless. I just can't get my readings down to anywhere is normal. I'm even thinking of giving up and not taking any more jabs. Do you feel this sometimes?

[Gary_W]

Prolonged periods of high blood sugar can certainly make you feel blue; it's not just that you feel physically bad, it also makes you very down in the dumps. Does me anyway...

It's unfortunate that the time you really need to take care of yourself is the time when you feel least able to cope with it. It's yet another of those little pleasantries with the condition. Once you start feeling better, your mindset improves and you're on a roll as far as feeling good goes.

I've certainly looked at my lantus pen before bed and said to my wife 'I've had enough of this. I'm sick of it'. But then reality kicks in and I get on with it. Whilst we all feel poorly sometimes with diabetes, we'd feel a whole lot worse without the medication. I realise how difficult it is to see this when you're feeling down. Been there, done that...

Keep your chin up. Brighter days will come :)

[gobbly2100]

Woah!

You sound like me a while back, I think we should talk on MSN if you have it or something like that because honestly you can feel better.

I was diagnosed with depression, stress and all the other feelings that the big D can give you.

If you do wanna chat then just PM me and I will give you my email.

I got plenty to say on how you feel, take care of yourself.

[BriOnH]

Hey Carolyn (I have a sister with that name), if I may ask, how long have you had diabetes for? I think we all can relate to how you feel. Hang in there.

[garyb]

I feel the same. I am thinking about getting married to a very nice lady and I do not even feel worthy at times.

This is not fun.

[am1977]

You certainly are NOT alone feeling this way. There are times that this disease really does get to me- let's face it, it can take a LOT out of you trying to manage it on top of everything else in life we have to deal with...

I find venting about how i feel really helps. And support from places like this helps as well... Usually, you can find someone that can relate and that does make you feel less alone.

Please do not give up on yourself... I know it's tough, but you owe it to yourself to take care of your health and stay healthy- you are worth it.

Hang in there.

[KCP]

I too have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety issues.. D certainly does not help, thats for sure!
I discovered last night as I was going low i started getting down and all woe is me. Then i realised I was low then i started to feel beter.
Not that that helps you at all, it was just an observation of mine.
Talk talk talk about everything. how you feel, about everything! it can really helps sometimes.

[blue_eyed_devil]

no you're not alone. i did in fact stop my injections and became very sick, so my advise is to stick in there...

not anyone of us is perfect and it can be the worst and most annoying friggin disease ever...

try talking to someone you trust about this... just remember that it's ok to feel crappy and that's the honest truth. you'll get though the tough times just like you'll get though the good.

keep strong and take one step at a time :)

[Mick]

Been diabetic for over 41 years now, since the age of 13. Never had any depression. I always took the attitude that I likely should have died at diagnosis, and after the 3-day coma and month in the hospital, I just looked at the rest of my life as a gift--as borrowed time. Why waste it feeling down?

Michael
T1 41 years

[T1Pumper]

I, too, have given up. And ya know what? I stood to lose everything and everybody I love. I was visited in the hospital (following the 3 days of seizures, stroke and paralyzation that occured by me not taking care of myself) by the psychiatrist who told me that I could be committed for willingly not taking care of my diabetes. I was put on Lexapro and that helped me alot. But the thought of being committed and not with my family scared me. I really did not mean to do what I did...I just found excuses to not take care of myself at that time.
But I agree with others in here that we have all been there at some point just in different ways! :)
Feel free to IM me anytime. Yahoo: Rcj176

[princesslinda]

I think most of us can relate to the depression that sometimes comes along with having been diagnosed with diabetes. It can sometimes seem overwhelming, all the things you have to think about and do. Not sure how long you've been diagnosed, but when I first got my diagnosis, I was so devestated. I found this site about 3 months into my diagnosis and the support and information here has been invaluable. Even now, a 7 month veteran, I still have days when I just don't want to do this anymore...then, I pull myself up and do what I have to do to have the best life I can possibly have.

One thing you must remember is this: You are not alone!

Hang in there, do everything you can to keep those numbers down. If you're not getting results you're happy with, go back to your doc and see what else can be done. Test often, eat right and try to exercise. I think the exercise helps with the depression as well.

Things will hopefully get easier for you as you go along. Surround yourself with supportive and upbeat people as much as you can....attitudes are contagious. Above all, realize that you have the right to feel this way....life is hard for most everyone and it's okay to have bad days. Hope you're feeling happier very soon. You hang in there!

Linda

[Cyborg]

Carolyn, I think depression is much more common in diabetics. Please don't stop your treatment. I find this forum very helpful for depression actually. You can PM me anytime you need...

[cheryl]

Your not alone, I was depressed till I joined a forum a while back, but a number one is that you have to really pay attention to why there are high's, oh my goodness dear you sound just like me. If you don't mind me asking what are your med's food intake etc................

We can brainstorm a bit, I needed that because my old endo just kept upping my lantus and never really told me to carb count, yea, you can imagine where I was at a few days I can eat like a non diabetic and for week on end they were sky rocket high.........i mean like high high........I was lost and confused and ready to give up,

Hang in there, it could be as simple as you just not being educated the right way on using your med's and then it becomes so clear how to work with it,

Cheryl

[mzizgayle]

Don't stop any treatment or give up, it does suck at times, shoot it just does, but you can not allow this to control you, you need to take control

[E-NICE]

I know how you feel. The big D at times makes me not only sad, but mad as ****.

[blacklightmike]

Carolyn, it's a big problem with a lot of us. Hopefully, with words of support, you'll feel among friends who understand, and it'll get easier.

Please don't give up on your treatment! I made the mistake of eating well, but not testing anymore a few months back. I ended up in the ER with an infected leg, a doctor who told me he was going to kill me for not testing, and a tearful wife who was certain it was the end... my kidney function hit 55%, and my A1C was 250! A couple days of touch-and-go, fearful of what the infectious disease Dr. had to say about my leg, dialysis, and watching my wife cry and get angry with me woke me right up to my own stupidity.

I'm now on insulin therapy and doing better than ever. This is a second chance I caouldn't have ever imagined a few short weeks ago. Please don't give up.

[Injecto]

Why waste it feeling down?


Though I respect you, and your positive attitude, it's not as easy to just "not feel down" for many people (diabetic or not).:(

Carolyn,

I'm with you too. I'm one of those that is very down (depressed and severe anxiety) because of the "D". I can't just kick it off. Hang in there and we'll see what happens together.:)

[Mick]

I was not at all minimizing the dangers and tribulations of depression, nor suggesting that it could be conquered by simply deciding to not be that way. I was merely recounting my own path to happiness over sorrow, joy over depression. I work with the mentally ill, and every day confront children with depression severe enough to have resulted in their removal from school, and even from their families. So I understand the need for treatment, for control, for support.

And, as some of you know, my journey has had the help of a high-octane vehicle--my training and practice of Meditation. In addition, I credit my very bright and caring parents, my loving and supportive wife of 33 years, and my career of 30 years, which I adore and which gives me so much fulfillment I wouldn't know what to do with the blues if they bit me on the butt. Having this kind of life, with a family, career, religion and education that provides a built-in motivation and means to happiness, has been almost as valuable as my meditation training.

Maybe I was just lucky that way, but it bugs me a little bit to always see diabetes listed as a cause of depression. Medically, I've never seen any suggestion that the two are related. Just as any life-altering or dangerous event or trauma might lead to depression--a divorce, death of a loved one, any other chronic or fatal disease can have the same effects--behavioral, not medical. My wife, who battled a major and rare cancer 3 years ago, has recently been diagnosed with a terminal recurrance. Diabetes may be a life sentence, but unlike many cancers, it is not a death sentence. In fact, compared to a terminal cancer like this, diabetes is a walk in the park. My four decades of diabetes could never compare to the 3 years of cancer and treatments we've gone through, with more of the same in the forecast, followed by death. Yet we remain hopeful--not for a cure, but for happiness, for as long a time as we get. I remain happy not for her cancer recurring, but for the 3-plus years we've gotten since her diagnosis. I stay thankful, not for the medicines that make her sick, but for the family and friends who gather around us to provide for our comfort and support. You can look at what you don't have--a functioning pancreas--and be unhappy or angry about that. I understand that to be a totally natural reaction. Or you can focus on whatever you DO have that is life-supporting and happiness-producing, and try to elevate those aspects of your life over the others. Glass half empty or glass half full? Same glass, different conclusion, just by changing one's point of reference. It always seemed to me more logical to look at it as half-full. I ache for the broken hearts and crushed spirits of all those who battle depression. As I said--I deal with it every day in my profession. I hope Light can illuminate that darkness.

Optimistically,
Michael

[BriOnH]

So sorry to read about your wife Michael :( . Thoughts and prayers going out to you and your wife.

[am1977]

Wow, Mick... You really make some really good points. I am one of the ones who tends to have a negative attitude towards many things lately. But what you said really strikes a chord with me. I know attitude and outlook really does play a big role in how you cope and function in life~ I'm trying to work on it.

I'm so sorry to hear about your wife's condition. I will definitely be thinking of you and your family during this time.

[blue_eyed_devil]

mick,

you really are an amazing spirit. you have talked about a lot of things on df and they are always insightful and well ment. i agree that diabetes isn't definatly related to depression.

keep going strong. you're doing pretty dam well so far by the sounds of it. my best wishes to you.

[Cyborg]

MIchael, best wishes and prayers to you and your wife.

[Cyborg]

With regards to depression and diabetes, I know that stress can raise bg and vice versa. Being that the brain is the largest consumer of glucose in the body, I would think that there is a good chance for a correlation between fluctuating bg and depression. After all, they do treat depression with brain altering substances...

[princesslinda]

Mick:
Since i've become part of this forum, i've had great admiration for your positive outlook and calm demeanor that comes across in each of your posts. Now, I have even more respect and admiration for you, as you maintain so much positivity when things are going so rough for you and your family.

Please know that many thoughts, prayers and well-wishes will be sent your way.

You continue to be an inspiration to many of us. Glad you're part of the DF family.

Linda

[gettingby]

Been diabetic for over 41 years now, since the age of 13. Never had any depression. I always took the attitude that I likely should have died at diagnosis, and after the 3-day coma and month in the hospital, I just looked at the rest of my life as a gift--as borrowed time. Why waste it feeling down?

Michael
T1 41 years
I have to agree with you here. I've had it for over 20 years and I was at the point in the past that I should not have survived. I look at my diabetes as something I just have to deal with. I don't like the other option. I live each day to the fullest because since almost dying, I never know if tomorrow will come and if it doesn't, at least I've liven every day to it's fullest. Yes, I get bummed out when things don't go right but I just stop, look to find the cause of it, fix it, and go on.
Every one has their own way of dealing with this. Just hang in there. It will get better.

[Injecto]

Mick, I am so sorry to hear about your wife and what you and your family have been through and what you will go through. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your wife.

I deeply appreciate the way you put things into perspective and I attempt very hard (believe it or not) to bring many of the things you say and practice into my own life now. Change is difficult and given that it's only been 5 months I'm still kind of new at changing my life. Because of you, however, I have looked into taking some meditation classes but have come up empty handed so far, do my dismay. I really believe I want to go down a meditation path as I need to achieve an inner peace.

Again, thank you. Prayers are going your way now.

[Larry H.]

While I do appreciate the ability of a person to create a feeling of positive vibes in there lives, I also know that some individuals suffer from chemical imbalances that trigger depression. I have a family history of depressive/manic behavior which is decidedly something the individual is not in control of.
Depression is a common side effect of a diagnosis of diabetes. Those who are predisposed to depression will probably fall into it now and then. Those who don't are very fortunate indeed. But please don't put all the blame on the suffer.
That said I do firmly believe that that there are active things a person can do to help them selves out of the problem. Mick named a number of them, activity, postive thoughts and actions all help. Accepting your situation is the most helpful to me. I find that by being proactive, through this group and other sites, and learning all I can about how to handle the diease is great help in detering the depression. Several friends on this group have lowered there numbers though reduced carb intake and exercise. I am no expert but I think from what I have read that those things will usually bring down numbers at least in type II's.
The main point here is your not alone, should you need professional help please get it. And yes there are a lot of things you can do to help your self, and they do make one feel the best.

[stacey21]

It nice to see other people have felt like this, i didnt realize it till now. i was diagnosed in 2005 and have ever since been very depressed, feeling very usless and pointless. i havent had a steady job since i left school and since being diagnosed have found it virtually impossible to get a job at all.
Even tired going to a factory where they employ anyone and everyone, even people who dont speak english and i was turned down.
I have been ignoring my diabetes and hoping it will just go away, but obviously its never gong to happen. i have told friends and family how i feel but they always seem to think if they had it they would do there injections all the time etc.
anyways tomorrows another day and hopefully i wil have a better outlook on my life.

[issysmommy]

Well...not to sound so cliche, but "they" say the first step is always admitting you have a problem...and that is so huge that you are admitting and discussing your problem here.

I struggled with depression for years (due to learning how to deal with a marriage...which is wonderful today...where we were learning about how differences in our upbringing DID in fact make it really tough to deal...and dealing with some other "stuff" which manifested as control, pride, anger, self-righteousness, and arrogance).

About two years ago I joined a support group that deals with all kinds of issues. I found that I needed a support group to talk about all those feelings I have had for years about Diabetes. Some people on this forum will tell you that you need to just "look at it differently" or " just learn how great Diabetes is...in spite of all the other feelings you are having". I am not one of those...yeah, yeah....I'd pick it over other top diseases, but at the end of the day if having given the choices to:

A. test, test, and keep testing just to see if my physical feelings match my actual body chemistry.

B. worry about future complications even if I take care of my diabetes.

C. count, count, and count carbs, BGs, insulin units, exercise, and anythign else that affects our body.

D. the physical feelings when I hypo or go high

I would have NEVER had chosen E. All of the above

I keep saying I am going to write a book on the emotional effects of D. And the emotional journey of dealing with D.

This summer I have decided I am going to begin it...we'll see...

PM me if you want to know more about the support group or just vent or talk...take care...

[JasonJayhawk]

I most certainly get depressed if I think about what I could have done with the money that has been spent on this fabulus "d" hobby.

On the other hand, I've learned the difference between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes, other than "one takes insulin and one doesn't".

So long as I don't think about the money, I'm treading water.

*must...*not...*think...of*.... Ooops, time to feed the twins!

(as I poor overpriced unused formula down the drain!)

[KCP]

While I do appreciate the ability of a person to create a feeling of positive vibes in there lives, I also know that some individuals suffer from chemical imbalances that trigger depression. I have a family history of depressive/manic behavior which is decidedly something the individual is not in control of.
Hear hear.. Ditto

i also find myself 'suffering' from depression and anxiety attacks.. Neither of which are related too my having had diabetes. The depression is caused by hormone imbalances but I find it hard to deal with that diagnosis so I dont. My diabetes I can control now. The depression?Well, thats another story that i will deal to later. :whistling

[Injecto]

The depression is caused by hormone imbalances

That is said all too often and yet I'm not convinced. If depression and anxiety are caused by such chemical imbalances then why can't they "diagnose" based on true medical data (like they do for every other physical disease)?

[barbarac]

Feel down about the whole thing way too often. I think especially when I fax off readings and the only thing suggested is change this time to . . (and it is always up .1). The changes never seem to help, if anything make things worse. I have been on pump, off pump, back on pump. Don't think my basals have ever been right, but keep trying. It is very frustrating, but don't know what to do about it. Hang in there, I think all we can hope for is some kind of cure, which I don't think will ever come. Glad to see though that I am not the only one frustrated--that doesn't sound good, sorry. Don't want others as miserable as I am.

[mcneely]

First, for Mike, you bring up some good points. I think you have been blessed with a "good" enviroment. Which, I think is key to fighting depression. A good support group or folks you can just talk to who will listen and be concerned. It is easy to hand out solutions or say "i would take my injections daily regardless", to me that is not a friend. A friend would sit down and ask about the feelings and why they make you feel like not giving the injections. Then, stay with you and just encourage you during those moments, or call throughout the day to help you get past this bridge. I would start off with a church enviroment or connect with other diabetics within your city. I have started a website just for this - to connect other diabetics and to help eachother with controlling their diabetes (see the link in my signature).

If you don't have that in your life you need to find it. I am serious when I say that. Your enviroment can make or break you.

I don't complain much about my diabetes but when I do my wife thinks it is not justified meaning I could be worse off. But, she just doesn't understand the feelings that are brought on by this disease.

And, someone said diabetes and depression have no link, that is not true. Ask your endo and they should be able to explain why this happens to some level. See what the ADA says:
Depression - American Diabetes Association (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:EyAuavKa3joJ:www.diabetes.org/type-2-diabetes/depression.jsp+depression+diabetes&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)

Sometimes as a relief I will ask my wife to put my pump site on. For some reason I have a hard time of inserting the site sometimes, my fingers just don't want to press those release buttons on my injector.

Hang in there.

[Injecto]

And, someone said diabetes and depression have no link, that is not true. Ask your endo and they should be able to explain why this happens to some level. See what the ADA says:
Depression - American Diabetes Association (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:EyAuavKa3joJ:www.diabetes.org/type-2-diabetes/depression.jsp+depression+diabetes&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)


Actually, that article doesn't say much at all other than "people with diabetes can get depression" and I quote: "There are no easy answers about why this is true".

Technically there is no link physiologically between diabetes and depression/anxiety. However, as the site does mention, depression can set in because you have to cope with having a chronic illness that will lead to demise. As I've mentioned, I have anxiety and depression, ever since I was diagnosed. But it's not because of a chemical link.

I've also come to learn that "professional help" is a joke. Psychiatrists and therapists just push you into taking drugs and kick you out of the office.

[m3bfs]

i've suffered from depression far longer than i have been diagnosed diabetic, i also have PCOS and to some degree found relief that one of the 'symptoms'/side effects was depression, just like it predisposed me to diabetes, heart attack, stroke etc. Was also told that depression was caused by a hormonal imbalance (same as PCOS, as my gp at the time said, ovaries not creating the right soup !).

Previously my answer to my depression was eat something nice and naughty, but that didn't really help - depression still around then guilty feelings of eating naughty - more depressed, just another vicious circle in my life.

Was once told that my life is like a golf ball full of ups and downs, and nothing would really change it (very helpful advice lol), now i'm finally getting somewhere as to finding out the route cause and being able to do something about it. But like the D involves changes that i'm not sure how to do/if i really want to do them. I am PETRIFIED of change and at my age i find it laughable I should be past being petrified but i'm not and if l let it i'm back in the vicious circle.

So as others have said we've gotta hang in there, do what we don't particularly want to do, but really know that we have to do it (no choice in reality), drive others mad, by going on about it, till we gain the strength to defeat it or at least get it tamed to where we are in control and not it (I can live in hope).

Sorry if anybody takes offence at my post, i mean it to be helpful but i don't want anybody thinking i've tried to hijack it, it is so difficult trying to say what i want to say when words can be interpreted in different ways depending on how the reader is feeling/percieves the words.

We're all here for each other, and if we need to moan, i'm sure everybody understands and if we need help, we only have to ask.

By moaning and 'going on' i've managed to find some answers but then have a problem acting on them (that thing called change again :eek: )

Open to pms from anybody if anybody wants to talk to me, don't really use msn or the like

[KCP]

That is said all too often and yet I'm not convinced. If depression and anxiety are caused by such chemical imbalances then why can't they "diagnose" based on true medical data (like they do for every other physical disease)?

Since you are a MAD scientist you will know of a hormone we plebs refer to as Seratonin. A lack of this causes what? 'hormonal imbalance.........!' :argh: :mad: And no, i do not treat my depression with medicine. I use herbal remedies.. And they work just as well.
Please do not take what I say about my condition lightly. Yes, I have diabetes, but you cannot forget that people with diabetes also get other conditons and having diabetes does not mean you wont recieve any other blessings of Disease!
I also am a recipient of Nessidiblastosis, Manic depression, endo/exochrine failure, IBS and asthma!!!

[KCP]

Also do not discount mental inllness. It can have just as horrible an effect as any physical illness. There is just alot more stigma because not any normal person can see it...
(move to New zealand an you may see the advertisements saying just this.. Since we have had one of the highest rates of youth suicide!)
Depression an the such are not always caused by external stimuli..

[Injecto]

KCP, not sure if you were mad at me or not, but trust me, I'm not downplaying the deadly issues of mental illness as it is absolutely NO secret on this forum that I suffer from severe anxiety (I have too many physical symptoms as a result of the anxiety) and depression (fits of crying and all that ****). :) :o

I was merely questioning the validation of the chemical imbalance theory with a severe lack of medical tests readily available in labs (such as those that do blood work) to properly diagnose mental illness and as such, treat the mental illness with medications that otherwise can have severe side effects and huge dependence factors.

[mcneely]

Actually, that article doesn't say much at all other than "people with diabetes can get depression" and I quote: "There are no easy answers about why this is true".

Technically there is no link physiologically between diabetes and depression/anxiety. However, as the site does mention, depression can set in because you have to cope with having a chronic illness that will lead to demise. As I've mentioned, I have anxiety and depression, ever since I was diagnosed. But it's not because of a chemical link.

I've also come to learn that "professional help" is a joke. Psychiatrists and therapists just push you into taking drugs and kick you out of the office.

Hi Injecto, The link to the ADA site was not to show "hard" proof but to show that the medical commuity is aware of this - depression with diabetes.

On your comment to therapists, I disagree. I have seen counselors several times in my life and they were helpful. I found the best solution that really made an impact on me was group therapy. And, just so you know, I never have been prescribed anything from a therapists.

[June91]

That is said all too often and yet I'm not convinced. If depression and anxiety are caused by such chemical imbalances then why can't they "diagnose" based on true medical data (like they do for every other physical disease)?

I don't have any "hard" data, but am very familiar with anxiety and depression: symptoms, chemical interactions, etc. and can with some certainty say that hormones do play an important role. I am not depressed any more and my anxiety is all but gone, but the latest symptom of my pms has become an extremely difficult physchological state, very similar to depression, the onset of which comes an exact number of hours prior to my period, and lasts exactly two hours. I am thankfully aware that this is what it is and manage to keep in check my suicidal thoughts. Apart from these two hours, my disposition is mostly cheeful :)

There are other obvious medical conditions that are also difficult to prove because they are usually very individual - for example the "hangover" that follows a hypo and can last up to a day or more - there was a thread about it a while ago. Lots of diabetics get the same symptoms, but there is no way to prove it...

[Injecto]

Hi Injecto, The link to the ADA site was not to show "hard" proof but to show that the medical commuity is aware of this - depression with diabetes.

I know that. I was just venting/asking for the medical world at large to finally come up with a true medical test to back up their decisions to put people on meds. My other post in this thread really nailed my point I think. :)

On your comment to therapists, I disagree. I have seen counselors several times in my life and they were helpful. I found the best solution that really made an impact on me was group therapy. And, just so you know, I never have been prescribed anything from a therapists.

I've had a terrible experience with the current "therapist" and pshychiatrist I've seen, so perhaps my view is jaded, but all they've done is push drugs on my and I've refused. I look at how much I've improved since October 06 to know with no meds and it ticks me off that they still want me on meds. Since I've refused they have actually told me that they will now discharge me from their care. To tell you the truth I was shocked and dumbfounded by their decision to discharge me because I never once said I didn't need help, I just don't want meds. So, obviously they ONLY believe in medication as a treatment (which was further clarified as correct last night when I had a discussion with another therapist at the same clinic).


I don't have any "hard" data, but am very familiar with anxiety and depression: symptoms, chemical interactions, etc. and can with some certainty say that hormones do play an important role.

Again, I'm not asking individuals for hard data, I'm asking the medical world to provide a method to test. I really hope that is understood.

[KickStart101]

Hello. Do any of you out there get very down and depressed with being d. I feel totally alone and useless. I just can't get my readings down to anywhere is normal. I'm even thinking of giving up and not taking any more jabs. Do you feel this sometimes?


Hi Carolyn:

I sure hope that you are feeling better and as
the others said, "Please do not give up and Do
Not stop taking your Insulin".

No, like Mick, I didn't have depression due to
Diabetes, thank goodness. We(my Brothers and I)
had practically no info on Diabetes back then and
definitely no one to talk to about it. I guess we were
just supposed to be strong, suck it up and accept it,
like a long term flu with bad complications. My Brothers
and I didn't even talk about it.

I did get a bad depression about a yr. after I was dxd.
with RA at age 25. So I do know what you are going
through and what **** is. But I had my Family and their
needs to look after so I didn't have the time to dwell on it.
Not to mention all our Friends and other Family members.
*Happy Face Here-(just to make sure everyone thought I
was doing fine)-90% of the time. :rolleyes: ;)

Working together with your Health Team should be able
to get you back on sound ground. And definitely a medical
professional(lower on the ladder) to talk to about your
depression(I wouldn't recommend a Psychiatrist though :bird:$$$).
I know there are some Good ones out there somewhere in the
world.....I just never met one.

Even though we are not in your body, if you mention what your
sugars are during the day, what you ate, how much Insulin you
took, what kind of Insulin you are on, etc. we
could maybe help you there.

I do wish you well and please post back. :)

[KickStart101]

Hi Mick: I hadn't read this thread before since as I
mentioned, like you, I didn't have depression due to
Diabetes so I felt I had nothing to offer Carolyn.


Mick:
I am truly sad and sorry to hear that the cancer has
recurred to your Dear Wife. My thoughts and prayers
go out to her, you and your Son and Daughter.
You and your Wife are Very Strong People. Blessings
to You Both.

Optimistically

***Carlie***