type 2????????????

[sweetblood]

can type 2s be thin...i was recently dx d t2...am very thin tho...i have noticed bgs are increasing...fasting r 110-120 as opposed to 85-90s...takes longer to come down from highs. bg rarely below 105 or so...unless im hypo...do i need to be comcerned...drinking mosly dt drinks...only 1-2 reg sodas / day...do i need to ask dr if could be 1.5...or just watch my bg for now...

also dr recommends testing ONLY 1X pre day...i think i neet to test in morn,after 1 or 2 meals and the if i feel i'm hypo/hi...basically 3-4x day. i get supplies thru insure and am omly approved to test 1/day...how can i get dr to approve more tests...especially since im newly dxd...w/o making him think im maybe overreacting.

i think 3-4 x /day is acceptable as i learn how diff foods affet bg

btw...i now wait AT LEAST 1 h bf testing aft meal:)

[BlueSky]

T2s can be thin. But I would ask the doctor to do an anti-body test. If you are T1.5, it should be positive. And the sooner you start using insulin the better.

[sweetblood]

thanks...i'll check into that

[sweetcheeks]

first of all - i hate doctors telling people to only test 1x per day lol, they are stupid for even suggesting this, cause it doesnt affect them one way or the other, and will help you determine what affects you and how your responding to different foods etc...

here are somethings you may wanna stick too or think about

#1 rule, always test 2 hours after the first bite of your food, not one hour or three

#2 Doctors always try to get you to test only 1 or 2 times a day, because they say its due to insurance puposes, here's what to do, call whatever insurance provider you have, ask them what is the maximum they will pay for per month, then go to your doctor and tell him that there is no way on gods green earth testing only once per day will tell you anything, I'm type two and test at least 6 times a day. It took me three trips to the doctors office to get her to write me the correct script I needed for MY HEALTH, expect to fight for this and to get frustrated, insist to the doctor "its my body, my health, either you help me help myself or I'll go elsewhere for my healthcare"

#3 no more regular soda's, all diets or water, and on occasion juice, or some sort of s/f koolaide


good luck

[sweetblood]

thanks stacey...those r my thoughts exactly...

the strange thing is ,dr that dxd me is diabetic himself...go figure...you can bet he tests more than 1x a day...might get new dr....oh joy...here we go again.....

as that isnt enuf...im battling lo potassium--from hi bg??? and have a little protien in urine....and maybe problens w eyes...incresed floaters..im going to eye dr fri to get it checked out...again

this diabetes is REALLY FRUSRATING.....

[sweetcheeks]

yeah i bet he does check his more than once a day...

since he's diabetic, he should be pushing more to test more...

i think sometimes these dr's dont wanna burden us with doing this and that etc... and also sometimes i thnk that they get alot of people who are diabetic who DONT test and there fore no sense in giving you a script for 6x per day if your not going to use them...

but still 3 - 4 times a day should be the normal for any diabetic regardless of what type you are

[ant hill]

can type 2s be thin...:)

you can and disiplin is the key!! Cut the fats Takeaway and that so called diet drinks. Drink only water and plenty of it. As you get thinner you then can afford to cut the insulin too. And there is the exersize, Go and do something that you enjoy. It's quite simple realy !!! :thrasher:

[HelenM]

Thin people can have type 2 but some thin people do have type 1.5.

Are you losing weight rapidly now? Did you before diagnosis?
If so I would certainly ask my doctor about an anti GAD test. Otherwise perhaps wait a while (not too long) and see if your BS either become more steady or continue to rise.

A person with LADA (1.5) typically takes 1-6 years from diagnosis to become insulin dependent and the treatment options may not be so different initially from type 2, however sulfonylureas (SUs) should be avoided if you have LADA. seeWelcome to LADA (http://www.locallada.swan.ac.uk/what.html)

One thing that struck me is that you said you still drink regular sodas. Whatever type of diabetes you have they will send your blood sugars high.

Good luck especially with the testing problem. Maybe if you tell your doctor what you will use the test results for then he will be more sympathetic As you say a lot of people don't use the strips prescribed so that the research evidence shows that more frequent testing does not have a beneficial effect in many type 2s. A test is only of use if you are able to use the result.

[sweetblood]

i am thin...i was asking if it was possible to be t2 and thin at dx...sorry abt the confusion...

i had lost abt 30 lbs or so abt 3 yrs ago...my weighrt has remained pretty stable now tho...im 5 ft 6 in and 118 or so lbs...pretty thin

i guess when i get bg under better control, i gain some wt back??

as for the sodas, i have cut back on the sugary ones drastically since being dxd...only drink them when im below90 and have to be active...running errands etc and dont have time to eat

i think i went lo yestrday at work...got shakey/nervous...had not eaten all day...just was not hungry...so i ate 4 glucuce tabs ...i ate a short wile later tho...and of course i felt better...

how can i eat regularly...even when i'm NOT hungry??? what can i di to want to eat...main problam is wen i wake up i may not always be hungry, and if im lo...i reach for soft drinks. i know NOT good

any input appreciated

[ladytaz]

As you say a lot of people don't use the strips prescribed

This is because of stupid docs like sweetbloods, that don't emphasize the importance of testing!!

so that the research evidence shows that more frequent testing does not have a beneficial effect in many type 2s.

If patientes KNEW what to do with the results, like, knowing that a particular food raised their BG, so they need to ether cut back on or cut out that food, then it would definitely be beneficial!! Again, goes right back to the stupid docs not properly educating their patients!!

A test is only of use if you are able to use the result.

See previous comment ...


What I'm STILL amazed at, is the fact that I really had NO help from my first doc, yet, I learned all on my OWN how I should go about things!! I guess that's just because I know how to research and am diligent at finding out about things!? *shrugs* It really isn't that difficult to get up on the net and find out! Just takes a little determination. But then again, we shouldn't even be put in that position in the first place! It's the DOCTOR'S job to teach us these things, that is what they get paid for!!

At my first appointment with the doc (3 weeks after Dx), HE said was only concerned with my 'morning' numbers. I flat out told him that I test way more than that ( upon waking aw well as before and after meals), so I can learn how different foods affect me. I have diabetes 24/7/365, not ONLY in the mornings! He said, "yes, you are correct!" And we left it at that!

Had I not gotten on the net and researched, I would have been FAR worse off, because he did not help me in any way .... never even had me set up with a dietitian to learn how much carbs and calories I should be eating a day! Again, I had to figure that out all by myself and thankfully I did!

[sweetblood]

taz--i totally agree with u.....just need to get doc to approve me to test more (insurance reasons--pays 4 supplies thus far) only approved me to test 1 day...might end up going to new doc...as if i dont have enuf **** ...potassiums low...2.6, eyes may have probs--floaters, increasd, microalbuminuria...what else w this blasted disease

i also cope w tourette syndrome tho thars the LEAST of problems now...it could be alot worse tho...its just like health is rapidly gong downhill...i was prev. very healthy...only had the tourettes, and little depression that comes and goes...

[ladytaz]

I hope he approves you for more strips!! If not, like you said, find you one who will, and let him know that's what you're doing!!!

I'm so sorry that you're going thru all of this, indeed it is no fun, and especially when added on top of what you've already been dealing with!

Good Luck!!!!!

[mzizgayle]

I was 130 lbs at diagnosis, at last physical before diagnosis I was told this weight for my age and height was fine since I ate healthy, exercised regulary, very active....I am now at 108 pounds thanks to metformin side effect, tho a little lower than I wanted, and what the doctor wanted... I inherited this from family, no matter what I did I was probably going to get this.

[lilituc]

I agree it sounds like it could be LADA. I would recommend a GAD antibody test and a C-peptide. Not everyone with Type 1 (including LADA) has antibodies at all times, so a positive tests mean you have Type 1, but a negative test doesn't mean you don't have it, if that makes sense. A C-peptide indicates how much insulin you're making naturally.

[sweetblood]

im NOT on any pills/ insulin...semms my fasting bg is ccreeping up tho....i run 115 or so now, as oppossed to 90s 2 mos ago...i know thats not bad, but it has gone up....a little

[ladytaz]

you're numbers are still looking good sweetblood (to ME anyway), just keep a close watch on it!! If they get to where they're consistantly over 125, I'd mention it to the doc. Your time for meds may be coming up sooner than you'd hoped.

My numbers started inching up slowly over a couple of months too ... I told my doc and he switched my meds up to see if that worked, but it didn't ... got worse infact, so he put me on insulin.

My numbers NEVER loooked as good as yours do now tho, even WITH meds!! ;)

[sweetblood]

im waiting on results of k+ level...i think it mighta dropped a little...from 2.6...not sure...

but i am cramping more...prob gonna need supplenentation...is ther a liquid form as i cant swallow those big pills....at er sunday...nurse even broke it in half, i STILL couldn't swallow it...i dont want to end up in hospital b/c of this...and i DON'T want iv...i hear it BURNS.. I DONT NO IF DIET COULD RAISE IT ENUF at this point...dont really eat bananas much, tho i could force then down if it means no IV ....
i really hope ill get results today...we'll see...good night, ill check backlater

[ladytaz]

potassium pills I assume you are talking about. I know they have some powdered **** you add water to I think it is, they gave me some when I was Dx'd ...BUT I know that they do have a small pill, because my brother in law takes it. He can't swallow the big pills either. Ask the doc or pharmacist about it.

But in the meantime, yes a bannana's work (altho you gotta watch them for raisin the BGL tho ;))

[slipperyelm]

So are you doing anything to increase your potassium? Usually increasing potassium is a pretty simple matter, but you must tend to it daily.

What A1c did you have upon diagnosis of diabetes? I thought previously you had said you were testing levels in the 200s and 300s during the day. Now it sounds like you are doing better. Perhaps that is because you have stopped drinking sugared beverages.

I hope that you can get your prescription for test strips re-written so that your insurance will cover a greater number. If you know how to use the info from your blood glucose tests, you could just go ahead and pay out of pocket (assuming your pockets have some dollars in them!). Personally, I would give up a lot of things in order to have enough test strips to really help me keep on track. Fortunately, my M.D. understands how informative and motivating testing is, and has never hesitated to write a prescription for an appropriate amount.

[princesslinda]

When I was having problems with leg cramping, one of the docs I work with said when he has this happen, he takes a tsp of salt substitute (which, I believe, is just potassium chloride) and mixes it with a glass of orange juice . He said to do this every other day for a week and see if it helped. I tried it with s/f koolaid...it wasn't a great taste, but was tolerable, and the cramps resolved. Not telling you to try this, but I did and it didn't kill me...yet;)