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Mile Hi Outlaw
03-22-2007, 12:30 AM
Does any one know if there are any other free software programs that will work with the OneTouch UltraSmart tester other than there own software package. I do have the cable and OneTouch software ver. 2.3.1 at this time. If so where can I get the software package.

Jill-O
03-22-2007, 04:31 AM
I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you mean you do NOT have the cable and software? or that you DO have the cable and the softwre?

Currently, I have the software and the cable, which I purchased recently as a set for $30 from Drugstore.com. The version of my software is 2.3. I have found it very easy to use.

Right now, I have two meters -- one I keep at my office and one I keep at home. I like that the software merges the two meter results and sorts them in chronological order.

JediSkipdogg
03-22-2007, 04:47 AM
Current their software is the only one I know that recognizes Lifescan products. Lifescan uses some hard coding for their meters making it a mission to crack their code. Just ask BrionH how hard it is. BrionH is the creator of Diabuddies - For Diabetics, From Diabetics (http://diabuddies.com/) (an online meter software in a sense) and for at least 6 months him and a few others have been trying to get their software to accept Lifescan readings. They may be the first to actually successfully do it, or have the patience to attempt to do it.

orpy
03-22-2007, 06:52 AM
Where do I get the software for this? I have the software from my old one touch but there must be updated software for the One Touch Ultra 2. Do I have to pay for it?

JediSkipdogg
03-22-2007, 07:26 AM
If you go here.....

LifeScan OneTouch Diabetes Management Software - Get Software - Agree (http://lifescan.com/products/otdms/download/)

You can download what is considered the upgrade software there for free. Just a side not as well, the upgrade is the full version, so technically you DO NOT need to ever pay for the software. It's getting the cable that is tricky. The software is the same for all meters and you can add the meters to the same person profile.

orpy
03-22-2007, 07:28 AM
I have a cable from my old one touch and I'm hoping it fits the new ultra 2...please say it does....



If you go here.....

LifeScan OneTouch Diabetes Management Software - Get Software - Agree (http://lifescan.com/products/otdms/download/)

You can download what is considered the upgrade software there for free. Just a side not as well, the upgrade is the full version, so technically you DO NOT need to ever pay for the software. It's getting the cable that is tricky.

JediSkipdogg
03-22-2007, 07:36 AM
I have a cable from my old one touch and I'm hoping it fits the new ultra 2...please say it does....

You need a converter to convert the Serial connector to a parralel connector into a DIN socket for the....

Ok....LOL...yes, the cable is the same for all meters. The cable and software is fully interchangeable between all Lifescan products. The only difference is the new meters may need the latest software to recognize the meter, which if you follow the link above you can make sure you always have the latest software.

orpy
03-22-2007, 07:47 AM
Yeah, LOL...actually I work at a tech desk in an academic library...hmmm, now we'll have to provide support for One Touch Software! :-)



You need a converter to convert the Serial connector to a parralel connector into a DIN socket for the....

Ok....LOL...yes, the cable is the same for all meters. The cable and software is fully interchangeable between all Lifescan products. The only difference is the new meters may need the latest software to recognize the meter, which if you follow the link above you can make sure you always have the latest software.

Mile Hi Outlaw
03-22-2007, 11:09 PM
All OneTouch meters take the same plug. The difference is there are two different cables. The older cables only came with a serial plug that went into the back of the computer but since the newer computers now all come with USB ports you can get the cable in ether serial "or" USB. I do not know if all the newer computers come with a serial port in the back. But if you are getting a new cable and you have an USB port get the cable in USB, rather than serial. But yes your older cable will work in the new meters if it workes in the old meter. For the newest software just go to the LifeScan sight and do a down load for ver. 2.3.1 and when asked what version you are using now tell it ver 2.0. It does not really make a difference since the down load will be the full version and you do now have to have the old version on the computer.

orpy
03-23-2007, 07:28 AM
I do have a usb cable...thanks all for your quick answers.

condensr
03-23-2007, 11:10 PM
For those with an Animas pump, EZ Manager+ recognizes the Ultra line, including Ultrasmart.

I think Minimed's Carelink now recognizes the Ultrasmart (it's in their client code anyhow).

There is a program called Diabass (never actually used it, just encountered it in research) that recognizes the Ultras, including Ultrasmart. As far as I know, thats about it.. (at least that covers the Ultrasmart as well. The US uses a totally different communication protocol than the Ultra series of meters.)

Cyborg
03-24-2007, 04:36 AM
For those with an Animas pump, EZ Manager+ recognizes the Ultra line, including Ultrasmart.

In fact, that's been the only way to get carb data into the EZ Manager+ software. Not sure about the new Animas 2020 and the claims to store carb data. I hope it's the case because I'm just too lazy to enter the carb data into both the pump and the meter. I wish they'd come out with a pump that would store carb and protein data.

dwilliams
04-02-2007, 07:47 PM
Have you looked at HealthEngage Diabetes at HealthEngage Applications and Services. (http://www.healthengage.com) It supports all of the Ultras and the UltraSmart plus all of the Accu-Cheks and the Abbott meters.

Full disclosure, I do work for them, but I am also a diabetic and had a lot of the same lifescan software frustrations I see on the forum before going to work at HealthEngage and exerting some positive influence ;)

JasonJayhawk
04-03-2007, 01:36 AM
Full disclosure, I do work for them, but I am also a diabetic and had a lot of the same lifescan software frustrations I see on the forum before going to work at HealthEngage and exerting some positive influence ;)

Out of curiosity, how did you (or your company) get the technical specs to read the data from the Ultrasmart meter?

Lifescan has been very stingy on sharing the data specs. Abbott hasn't shared them, either, for the Aviva...

gnstriker
04-03-2007, 02:01 AM
Dexcomm meters have software as well ... it's decent I suppose, not heavily on the functional side and only produces two types of graphs ... it's also over fifty-bucks, but i managed to strong arm my salesman into giving it to me for free :-

JediSkipdogg
04-03-2007, 03:35 AM
Out of curiosity, how did you (or your company) get the technical specs to read the data from the Ultrasmart meter?

Lifescan has been very stingy on sharing the data specs. Abbott hasn't shared them, either, for the Aviva...

I can't 100% answer for him...but did you look at the price of that software? Plus they charge user license fees if you want to install on more than one machine. Therefore my assumption would be they give a cut to those companies to get their coding for their meters. Why else would you charge $80 for a piece of diabetic software?

dwilliams
04-03-2007, 08:11 AM
Out of curiosity, how did you (or your company) get the technical specs to read the data from the Ultrasmart meter?

Lifescan has been very stingy on sharing the data specs. Abbott hasn't shared them, either, for the Aviva...
That was something our business dev guy did before I started working here but I do know it took months if not close to a year to get and was very difficult to implement because it is completely different from any of their other meter specs and uses hex or bin or some other complex formatting for everything.

dwilliams
04-03-2007, 08:14 AM
I can't 100% answer for him...but did you look at the price of that software? Plus they charge user license fees if you want to install on more than one machine. Therefore my assumption would be they give a cut to those companies to get their coding for their meters. Why else would you charge $80 for a piece of diabetic software?
Its a user license so you can use it on as many machines as you want but can only use the one user license name and pass, they all sync though so you can use it on a computer at work and one at home and also on your phone or pda. The software is proced that way because it has tons of features, dozens of graphs and reports, and is meant to help a diabetic with all aspects of their health not just glucose readings.

That being said if you have input about pricing, features, or anything else you would like to see I would love to hear from you and get it to the right pair of ears at the company :)

JediSkipdogg
04-03-2007, 08:20 AM
That being said if you have input about pricing, features, or anything else you would like to see I would love to hear from you and get it to the right pair of ears at the company :)

I'm a Lifescan user so I can only comment fully on that....

But since Lifescan software is free and BrionH (member on here) is working on a website.... Diabuddies - For Diabetics, From Diabetics (http://www.diabuddies.com) .... which is free and will accept Lifescan readings, I say anything mroe than $10-$20 for a piece of software like I saw is not worth it.

JasonJayhawk
04-03-2007, 10:40 AM
That was something our business dev guy did before I started working here but I do know it took months if not close to a year to get and was very difficult to implement because it is completely different from any of their other meter specs and uses hex or bin or some other complex formatting for everything.

Yikes -- your company might want to look out -- Lifescan put a threat towards me about it. Lifescan considers this "reverse engineering" of their product. When I contacted them about it, they were only able to commercially license the spec, and warned that any attempt to commercialize it on my own would result in legal action. :mad: :mad: :mad: They even removed the OneTouch Ultra spec.

I find the software your company makes as interesting. I didn't really think there was much of a market for it, but I can see how government/research would be able to save money from their own development costs. Pretty nifty. Expensive for the end-user, of course, but probably a deal to large-scale research projects.

dwilliams
04-03-2007, 10:59 AM
Yikes -- your company might want to look out -- Lifescan put a threat towards me about it. Lifescan considers this "reverse engineering" of their product. When I contacted them about it, they were only able to commercially license the spec, and warned that any attempt to commercialize it on my own would result in legal action. :mad: :mad: :mad: They even removed the OneTouch Ultra spec.

I find the software your company makes as interesting. I didn't really think there was much of a market for it, but I can see how government/research would be able to save money from their own development costs. Pretty nifty. Expensive for the end-user, of course, but probably a deal to large-scale research projects.
I checked and we do have a signed agreement with them as an official developer so everything is legal. No reverse engineering involved.

JasonJayhawk
04-03-2007, 11:53 AM
That was something our business dev guy did before I started working here but I do know it took months if not close to a year to get and was very difficult to implement because it is completely different from any of their other meter specs and uses hex or bin or some other complex formatting for everything.

Then it couldn't have been too hard for the developer if he had the specifications for the protocol! The guys that have been working on it here only can "reverse engineer" it as a non-profit hobby. Sure would be nice to get some US protocol specs from someone who has them... :D