Have you ever taken glucose and insulin at the same time?

[Cyborg]

Have you ever taken glucose and insulin at the same time?

[JediSkipdogg]

No, what would be the point? It would be a quick pick-u-up then the insulin would work and drop you back down. To me that's unnecessary stress on the body.

[BriOnH]

Does a mt dew count as glucose? :)

[owlyn]

Does a candy bar count as glucose?

[Jill-O]

I think given a little time, the Mt Dew and candy bar do count as glucose ;)

[LancetChick]

Yes, when I've needed an immediate pick-me-up with plans to eat more.

[Maddogg]

All the time, I'll eat a meal and give myself insulin right before, right after or during my meal, really depends.

Whats the point of this question anyway?

Is taking insulin and glucose at the same time bad for you all of a sudden?
Just to make things clear, I think of glucose as carbohydrates in general. If your talking about glucose as a simple sugar than no, I try and avoid to take sugar and insulin simultaneously

[Cyborg]

I can think of a couple times I've done it. This morning was one...

I got to work with my coffee (which I bolus for), but my bg was 58. So I took my insulin to cover my coffee and ate the glucose immediately to take care of the low.

[Funnygrl]

It makes no sense to me to give insulin when I'm 58. I would at least wait till I was in the 80s to give insulin. What if you were still dropping, then you got more insulin on board?

[JediSkipdogg]

I can think of a couple times I've done it. This morning was one...

I got to work with my coffee (which I bolus for), but my bg was 58. So I took my insulin to cover my coffee and ate the glucose immediately to take care of the low.


If you had the coffee, bolused, then tested that would make sense. But under other circumstances why add a dangerous object to the mix of hoping the glucose works faster than the insulin? And why not just let the coffee do the work in raising the BG?

[Cyborg]

If you had the coffee, bolused, then tested that would make sense. But under other circumstances why add a dangerous object to the mix of hoping the glucose works faster than the insulin? And why not just let the coffee do the work in raising the BG?

Glucose does work faster than insulin. :wink:

It also works faster than hot coffee... :tee:

[BriOnH]

I can think of a couple times I've done it. This morning was one...

I got to work with my coffee (which I bolus for), but my bg was 58. So I took my insulin to cover my coffee and ate the glucose immediately to take care of the low.

That makes sense to me too. I always get high from wake to 11am unless I give insulin.

[gettingby]

Ok. This may not be what you are asking but let me share it and get some opinions.
If I'm low and treat, then think I may have overdone the treating, I will figure up the carbs and take a half bolus for it.
Make sense?

[tanyatype1]

Yes, when I've needed an immediate pick-me-up with plans to eat more.

Ditto! Rarely though.

[lilituc]

Definitely, if I was a bit low and about to eat a meal.

[Cyborg]

Definitely, if I was a bit low and about to eat a meal.

Exactly! This especially applies to a pure protein meal, where I give an extended bolus over 3 hours. I know the protein alone will not act fast enough to keep me at an acceptable bg level.

[jen_slc]

If I'm understanding your question correctly (insulin while hypo and treating?) then yes. Most mornings I wake up in the 50s and when this trend first started, I'd eat my breakfast (one plain eggo, 14g) with no bolus or reduced bolus and end up super high. I am so sensitive to carbs in the morning, and my body liver dumps as soon as I get moving that I HAVE to bolus my usual amount for my eggo even when I am hypo. Otherwise I will pay for it later on. So in these situations I do not treat, or rather I treat but bolus for my treatment. It's weird.

[kel4han]

Yes! Our "mentor" mom, when my daughter was diagnosed met us at the park so kids could meet and play....well, her daughter had a 34 and she began giving juice, candy, crackers, anything, the poor little girl was ravenous, starving, so she began dialing bolus into the pump after 15min to just let her daugher pig out and eat like she felt she needed. I almost dropped dead, as I couldnt figure out how the heck this was safe!!! But, now if me or my daughter have a low and just have to eat, and pig out, we do and dose for the pigging out part after a few min, and less the 20carbs or whatever depending on the low. Sometime you just are starving and cant control how that low makes you eat! :eek:

[someone]

It makes no sense to me to give insulin when I'm 58. I would at least wait till I was in the 80s to give insulin. What if you were still dropping, then you got more insulin on board?

Once you start going up, you really start to skyrocket. If you wait until you start going up to bolus, you will just end up being high because the insulin won't have time to work.

[Funnygrl]

Other people are interprutting this question totally differently than I did.

[JediSkipdogg]

Once you start going up, you really start to skyrocket. If you wait until you start going up to bolus, you will just end up being high because the insulin won't have time to work.

Same here. I took it as would you run say 100 and eat some glucose tabs or something similar and then bolus. Or be running 50, give enough to take one to 200, and bolus the other 100 out of the system. Since the first question wasn't that specific and didn't mention eating with food and such, it can be taken tons of different ways which it has been in this post.

[Cyborg]

How is the question is unclear?

[JediSkipdogg]

How is the question is unclear?

It doesn't mention running low and taking it with another food item. Or as many took it, glucose as a broken down carb and eaten that way. If that would be the case, then everyone on insulin takes insulin with glucose.

[Cyborg]

Have you ever put a glucose tab into your mouth and injected insulin at the same time?

[JediSkipdogg]

Have you ever put a glucose tab into your mouth and injected insulin at the same time?

For me the answer would still be no. I have however injected insulin due to an overindulging in carbs because of a low which I think is totally different than injecting insulin because of eating glucose tabs. To me, the question still would say...have you been running X mg/dl, wanted to eat a glucose tab, and then given insulin for said tab? That's how I took the question.

[Cyborg]

:rofl: You're funny!

[someone]

I have had 100 carbs for a low, and bolused for the extra 80 if that answers your question..

[Funnygrl]

This whole thread is making less and less sense to me.

Yes, I've over treated lows and has a result bolused for the extra carbs.

No, I would never be low, have a snack, bolus for that snack, than eat glucose tabs to terat the low. That makes no sense to me.

Nope, I would never have a glucose tab just for kicks and bolus for it. They're nasty.

[lilituc]

Have you ever put a glucose tab into your mouth and injected insulin at the same time?

My answer's still the same. If I was at a restaurant before eating and found I was a bit low, I'd eat glucose but still take insulin for the meal.

If I just eat the meal and take insulin later, my bg goes high and stays high a long time. If I just take insulin and eat the meal, I can't get ahead of the low, usually. So I do what works.

[blue_eyed_devil]

when i go low i bolus for any glucose i eat to bring my bsl up. sounds strange but stops me peaking!

[Cyborg]

when i go low i bolus for any glucose i eat to bring my bsl up. sounds strange but stops me peaking!

If you were to determine your bg to carb (http://www.insulin-pumpers.org/howto/bgcarb.html) ratio, you wouldn't need to do that...