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Dewey
08-25-2007, 12:57 PM
Last night, Carwy complained of being thirsty & seemed to be urinating frequently. So, I tested his blood. He had salad for dinner, so it wasn't like there was much to it. He washed his hands & I checked him.

His BG was 191. Now, this may not seem outrageous, but to me, it's a bit high.
Also, throughout the night, he got up a couple of times to go to the bathroom...

This morning, he complained again of consistent thirst, so I checked him prior to breakfast (Fasting) & he was 120.

After breakfast (approx. 3 or 4 hours later), his BG was 140. I know these levels may not seem high, but I'm still concerned given the fact that his mom's a T2, his sister is T2 & he's currently experiencing some symptoms or "warning signs" of D (frequent urination, excessive thirst).

Just wanted to share...Not sure what to make of it (if anything) just yet, but I'll be watching over him to be safe.

notme
08-25-2007, 01:01 PM
Seems a bit high to me too Dewey. I hope it is just a fluke. You know the drill. :(

Dewey
08-25-2007, 01:46 PM
I'll definitely keep an eye on him. I forgot to mention in the first post, that prior to this & after all his Cancer treatments & such, he had Hemochromatosis (genetic excess of iron in the blood) & Hemosiderosis (excess iron in the blood due to transfusions). His iron levels were brought down over the course of a year through phlebotomies, which seemed to help. Currently, he goes once a month to keep the levels in range.

I wonder if something along those lines didn't possibly spur what we're seeing now. :s:

I will say that if he does have D, what better place to be than with folks who understand? :thumbsup:

Penny
08-25-2007, 01:47 PM
Is this new Dewey? I tested my husband a few days in a row and he was a little high. I was bugging him to get it checked out, and it went away....everyday for a week, he was "normal", didn't even go high after a meal. I hope it isn't so, but glad he has you if it is.

Dewey
08-25-2007, 02:04 PM
Is this new Dewey?
Yes. He started complaining yesterday evening about being thirsty & having to go to the bathroom alot. I'll definitely keep an eye on him. Perhaps it is just a fluke, but if not, at least we'll be ahead of the 8-ball. ;)

grace girl
08-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Glad you're keeping such a close eye! I really hope and pray it turns out to be nothing!

shockme
08-25-2007, 02:33 PM
oh dewey...i hope it turns out to be a fluke...please keep us posted...trish

barko
08-25-2007, 03:08 PM
ah shoot - we will cross all the fingers and toes.

Let's just hope and pray its a passing thing...
but I know you guys certainly know the drill and the journey.

BriOnH
08-25-2007, 03:12 PM
Please let him know we are thinking and praying for him. I don't think it's diabetes, but he will always be a diabetic to me :). Gods speed car and feel well!

cheryl
08-25-2007, 04:06 PM
I don't know what diet restrictions he may have and what not, but maybe give him something with high carb in it, a high carb load, and fast, like maybe pancakes and syrup.....or a snickers bar with a coke or something like that, like I said I don't know what he eats and doesn't eat, but I would and test his blood sugar every hour for about four hours, If he does not drop into normal range, by four hours, something is not right.....

I am so sorry you all have to go thru this, but my thoughts and prayers are with you, Does he seem like he might be coming down with a sickness you know a non diabetic blood sugars can elevate to if you get sick or are getting sick......just a thought too....or maybe some of the medications he may be on is making him glucose intolerant for right now.....

Cheryl

Funnygrl
08-25-2007, 04:12 PM
I really hope he doesn't have to deal with this after all he's already been though, but as you pointed out, those numbers are definitely high. Maybe now would be a good time to go to the doctor?

Dewey
08-25-2007, 05:27 PM
I'm going to have him e-mail his doctor. He goes down to have a CT-Scan (for the usual checkup post treatment/transplant) Wednesday, so perhaps while there, he can talk with the Oncology nurses about setting something up with his doctor.

JasonJayhawk
08-25-2007, 11:15 PM
Dewey,

Is Carwy on any medications that could cause the hyperglycemia?

Harold
08-25-2007, 11:19 PM
Might be something and might not. Now if he is still like this in a month I would get worried. He could be having a mild infection or something else going on.

KickStart101
08-26-2007, 01:43 AM
OMG Cary!! I honestly Pray that you DO NOT
have Diabetes. You've been through WAY too
much as it is. I Love Ya Dearly Bud!!:love: :love:
PM me any time Ya need Hun!!!!!

ant hill
08-26-2007, 02:36 AM
Last night, Carwy complained of being thirsty & seemed to be urinating frequently. So, I tested his blood. He had salad for dinner, so it wasn't like there was much to it. He washed his hands & I checked him.

His BG was 191. Now, this may not seem outrageous, but to me, it's a bit high.
Aww Dewey. :( Gee I hope this is not the case that's he's a type 2. He may get away with just the diet & exercise. Me crossing fingers. :confused:
Also, throughout the night, he got up a couple of times to go to the bathroom...

This morning, he complained again of consistent thirst, so I checked him prior to breakfast (Fasting) & he was 120.
Meh, It's borderline Dew. What's he like physically, Is he on the move most of the day?

After breakfast (approx. 3 or 4 hours later), his BG was 140. I know these levels may not seem high, but I'm still concerned given the fact that his mom's a T2, his sister is T2 & he's currently experiencing some symptoms or "warning signs" of D (frequent urination, excessive thirst).
Don't be too concerned, Still get some blood work done and then hope for the best result.

Just wanted to share...Not sure what to make of it (if anything) just yet, but I'll be watching over him to be safe.
(((Hugs))) It's borderline Dewey, But still watch him so chin up, He will be ok. :)

Carwy
08-26-2007, 10:36 AM
I would like to thank everyone for their prayers and kind words. We are keeping an eye on what I eat and my blood glucose levels so if anything is wrong we can info the Dr. Via e-mail or talking to an oncology nurse at the hospital. I will take a printout of what we have so far with me on Wednesday.
I have been busy with classes for last week I just started College classes again. 4 this time so I go all week now.

gettingby
08-26-2007, 10:47 AM
I hope and pray that he does not have it. But, if he does, he's among some of the most wonderful people to go through it with. He also has the best, hands down, expert living in the same place as he is. :D
Hang in there, blue eyes !!!!!!!!! :love:

princesslinda
08-27-2007, 05:38 AM
Keep us posted on how things are going. I'd ask for an A1C when you're at the doctors next week, just to ease your mind.

kgm0612
08-27-2007, 07:06 AM
Keeping you in my thoughts & prayers.


Karen

MJB
08-27-2007, 07:43 AM
Hope you don't have this disease.

I agree with Linda, have an A1c done, pretty simple and quick these days.

ladytaz
08-27-2007, 04:04 PM
Got'cha in my thoughts and prayers Carwy .... hopefully it's just some freaky thang!!! But if it is something, at least ya got Dewey there to keep a good eye on ya and take good care of ya!! ;)

Dewey
08-28-2007, 11:25 AM
Dewey,

Is Carwy on any medications that could cause the hyperglycemia?
Hi Jason,

Carwy hasn't been on any meds since last year. The last meds he was on were Sulfa & Acyclovir. The last time he was on Dexamethasone (aka Steroids) was 2 years ago.

I'm thinking that his issues may be more directly correlated to his hemochromatosis? Not certain about this, but it took a year of weekly phlebotomies to get him back into a decent iron level range.

He has been losing weight, but as he's been doing so, his BGs still seem to be running a bit higher than the norm. Sunday, he was at 138 (highest that day) and almost every day, his fasting is at 120. He continues to have frequent urination & thirst. I shall continue keeping an eye on things & even have him testing BGs & counting (& documenting) his carb intake each day.

I'm kind of scratching my head on this, because while his BGs aren't outrageously high, they're still above the norm. :s: He could be pre-D, or it could be some sort of infection trying to crop up.

He'll be going to get a CT Scan on Wed. (to re-check him post transplant), so perhaps while there he can request the nurses re-check his A1C. His last A1C (done last year) was 3.6, but it was skewed because he was undergoing weekly phlebotomies for his excess iron.

I want to thank everyone for all your input. Hopefully, we'll get to the bottom of this odd mystery soon. I think he'll be a-ok, and truthfully, if Diabetes is all he walks away from his Cancer journey with, I'll be rather pleased (& will be happy to assist in keeping him healthy :)).

LancetChick
08-29-2007, 06:27 PM
Here's a study that may answer the question: Relation between iron stores and non-insulin dependent diabetes in men: case-control study (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=28662)

It says that 53 - 80% of patients (men) with hemochromatosis develop non-insulin dependent diabetes, depending on how much excess iron is stored. Boo to that.

Penny
09-04-2007, 12:34 PM
Dewey, just wondering how our Carwy is doing. :)

sheish
09-05-2007, 04:37 PM
Hi Dewey ! I hope Carwy is doing better now ?

Wishing the best for you guys. :thumbsup:

shockme
09-05-2007, 07:02 PM
hey dewey-how's carwy? trish

Dewey
09-06-2007, 09:32 AM
Hi girls!

I'm back in town, but while this cat's been away, Carwy's not been playing properly (no testing!) Uggg. What am I going to do with him!? lol

Anyway, I think Harold was right. It very well could have been a mild infection. He started having diarrhea & it may have been a bug or something. The worst part was every time it almost went away, it started coming back (i.e. due to eating certain things, or when he had to take the barium sulfate for his CT-Scan).

He's better now & he claims he's not as thirsty. However, I'd still like to double check his levels, just to be safe. He goes for a phlebotomy tomorrow, so hopefully, they'll re-check his A1C then. If not, he can e-mail his doctor to get one set up for next round.

On the CT-Scan front, the doctor called & said everything looks fine. :) Needless to say, I'm elated. The medical "waiting game" is the worst, but I truly appreciate & respect Carwy's doctor very much.

Thank you all for all your help, support & caring. As said before, even if Carwy does have the big D (or is even borderline), at least he's in great company with everyone here. :)

shockme
09-06-2007, 09:36 AM
glad carwy's ct came out ok! trish

notme
09-06-2007, 09:49 AM
Great news Dewey and Carwy. The waiting game is the worst. My father is sure every time the doctor calls and wants a different test or to schedule his appointments that something is wrong. The wait between tests and results is just miserably long. Fortunately for you and for us, it has all been good news. :)

sheish
09-07-2007, 10:12 AM
Great news ! :tee:

Dewey
09-10-2007, 03:59 PM
Thank you all. I too, was pleased with the CT results! :)

On the BG front, I'm still a bit confused. We checked him yesterday, and it was 165....of course, that was after he ate, but still seems a bit high to me. Prior to that, it was 114. It seems to be staying in the 100s, but I'd like to check him more often throughout the day & maybe do more "experiments" (like feeding him ice cream, then checking to see how high his BG goes). We did one with cake & his BG only went to 140 that day. Talk about confusing!

Funnygrl
09-10-2007, 04:19 PM
Thank you all. I too, was pleased with the CT results! :)

On the BG front, I'm still a bit confused. We checked him yesterday, and it was 165....of course, that was after he ate, but still seems a bit high to me. Prior to that, it was 114. It seems to be staying in the 100s, but I'd like to check him more often throughout the day & maybe do more "experiments" (like feeding him ice cream, then checking to see how high his BG goes). We did one with cake & his BG only went to 140 that day. Talk about confusing!
You could be missing the spikes since the various foods have different glycemic indices. Has he had an a1c? If you really want to experiment, let him borrow the guardian. Now that would be interesting.

Dewey
09-10-2007, 04:34 PM
Has he had an a1c? If you really want to experiment, let him borrow the guardian. Now that would be interesting.
I should put him on the Guardian! In fact, I've threatened him with it. ;) lol

I don't know if they've checked his A1C this time, but I told him to ask. If he didn't, I'll make sure he has them set it up for this next round (I didn't go with him last week). It's better to be safe in a circumstance like this.

gettingby
09-10-2007, 04:39 PM
Thank you all. I too, was pleased with the CT results! :)

On the BG front, I'm still a bit confused. We checked him yesterday, and it was 165....of course, that was after he ate, but still seems a bit high to me. Prior to that, it was 114. It seems to be staying in the 100s, but I'd like to check him more often throughout the day & maybe do more "experiments" (like feeding him ice cream, then checking to see how high his BG goes). We did one with cake & his BG only went to 140 that day. Talk about confusing!
Confusing?? Well, you are talking about Carwy. :D :D
(luv the blue eyed Adonis). ;)

Dewey
09-10-2007, 04:41 PM
Confusing?? Well, you are talking about Carwy. :D :D
(luv the blue eyed Adonis). ;)
Yeah, I'll say! lol That boy worries the tar out of me! He just checked (fool forgot to wipe his finger dry!!!) & it said 54! I was like :eek:! Made him check again: 142. I also made him ensure that his finger was dry! That guy!!!