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oogie_boogie888
09-01-2007, 12:11 PM
Once again I'll introduce myself (maybe it'll help :confused: ). My name is Katie, I'm 16. School started on monday (yippee xP). I'm working for the pump. I was hospitalized last Jan. 1 (what a nice new years) when I got sick and it made my diabetes go out of wack. Anyways, I have a problem...


Last night I went to our high school football game because I play in the band. I made churro's and decided I'd just take a shot after the game (it's a bit difficult when you're constantly playing and don't know when you have a chance to take a shot).

When I came home after the game my BG was 336. (My correction factor is 1u for ever 25 over 100). I figured it'd keep going up because I just finished off the rest of the churros, but to be safe (getting ready for bed) I only took 4u so I wouldn't be so high in the morning.

My mom woke me up at noon complaining that I slept in so late.... my BG was 54. I washed my hands and my BG was 63. (as an experiment...) I took it again 2 minutes later and it was 72. I waited 20 minutes and now it's 60! :eek:

I am really confused! Why was my BG so low this morning? Why is it jumping around so much when I haven't eaten or taken a shot? What should I do? Is this going to keep them from giving me a pump? :confused:


Any advice would be loved.

oogie_boogie888
09-01-2007, 12:19 PM
I still haven't eaten anything and took my BG again... now it's 69 :(

Keezheekoni
09-01-2007, 12:30 PM
It could be that you are more active now that school's started back up. When you're more active, usually your insulin needs will go down...

I don't think this will prevent you from getting a pump. I'd tell you to watch your numbers more carefully, make sure that your hands are washed before testing (especially since you ate churros, and they're loaded with sugar on the outside which will stick on your fingers and make you have a false-high result if your fingers haven't been washed). Oh, that was a really long run-on sentence...don't use that in English class!

duck
09-01-2007, 12:41 PM
Katie, I'd love to know if you've ever done a "basal test" or have a basal profile nailed down at all. Short of that, how often do you test, and are you willing to post up those results? They may or may not help, but more information is better than none at all when trying to figure these things out.

oogie_boogie888
09-01-2007, 01:00 PM
I washed my hands... :(


I have never done a basal test before. I don't have a set amount a pokes per. day, but I try to keep it at 4.

From the way the meter's set up it starts with the latest and them goes earlier... o.0


8-31 PM -> (10:32)336 (6:53)86 (4:48)65 (2:59)59 (12:23)98 (7:03)142 <-AM

8-30 (5:01)69 (12:28)220 (12:26)223 (6:59)178
8-29 (10:48)274 (5:25)276 (8:21)286

8-28 (11:44)481 (7:33)231 (12:24)277 (7:09)96

8-27 (10:25)141 (6:36)87 (3:48)68 (2:11)310 (9:06)130

8-26 (1:43)281 (5:17)250 (12:02)143

8-25 (1:30)418 (9:00)81 (7:59)50 (7:38)106 (7:26)69 (5:00)297

xMenace
09-01-2007, 01:09 PM
What duck said. It sounds like your basal insulin must have dropped you. If that's the case, it's way out of whack. If your basals are not right, you can count on problems.

Eating without shooting is a big no no. Don't be afraid to do it anywhere. I know high school is difficult, but maybe you can find a friend that will provide cover for you. Learn to do it in 20 seconds!

BTW count on a 10% variance in readings. These things aren't as accurate as you seem to think.

lindabelle
09-02-2007, 07:22 PM
Dont forget that you had exersize at the game! One day recently ,I was low all day I even skipped insulin for a few little snacks and I kept low. Then I realized I had gone bike riding (loooong bike trail) the day before and was suffering from it. So, in this case maybe not your basal but if it happens regularly to you then maybe somethin to look into.

Cyborg
09-02-2007, 07:43 PM
That can be up to a 20% discrepancy in readings. Not all meters are the same.

I'd be more concerned about your incredibly large swings in bg. 400's to 60's is huge. Swings like that can take a toll on your body and mind. Good luck...

iDream
09-02-2007, 11:16 PM
geez, you roll high. Are you not taking enough insulin, or have you insulin needs increased?

ant hill
09-03-2007, 03:07 AM
Once again I'll introduce myself (maybe it'll help :confused: ). My name is Katie, I'm 16. School started on monday (yippee xP).
Gee, At the prime of your life and diabetes sucks bad!!! :(

Last night I went to our high school football game because I play in the band. I made churro's and decided I'd just take a shot after the game (it's a bit difficult when you're constantly playing and don't know when you have a chance to take a shot).
Katie, Sport is good for diabetics but what sucks is that what ever you are doing is sending your metabolism through the roof and so you will have more sensitive to insulin.
My mom woke me up at noon complaining that I slept in so late.... my BG was 54. I washed my hands and my BG was 63. (as an experiment...) I took it again 2 minutes later and it was 72. I waited 20 minutes and now it's 60! :eek

I am really confused! Why was my BG so low this morning? Why is it jumping around so much when I haven't eaten or taken a shot? What should I do? Is this going to keep them from giving me a pump? :confused:
You have the dawn effect like all of us have Katie. ;)

Any advice would be loved.

We love you katie. :D :T

Alice
09-03-2007, 08:57 AM
Your correction dose might be a little strong...especially if you're active. I'm "Old 49" and mine is about 1 unit for every 50-75 over normal. Sometimes I only correct 1 unit for 100 depending on what's going on.

Truthfully, I tend to go low at 1 for 50. So, 1-25 may be too much correction for you.

Enjoy your 16th year! It's one of the best!

sbuff28@charter
09-03-2007, 09:24 AM
Get the pump and you will find it much easier to control.

Listen to duck, i think hes on to somethin there, your basal seems like it needs tuneing.


Diabetes is not all cut and dry with simple rules to fallow (its almost like a multi-variable balencing act)... you almost have to learn your own body and how it reacts, and that takes time. Depending on the type of person it can take many years. Take the mentallity to educate and become an expert of yourself and diabetes and you'll be fine.

Tattoo azz
09-04-2007, 08:14 AM
Katie i do between 6-8 tests a day depending on my bg's, don't be afraid to tell your band leader that you have to test.
It sounds like your basal is out of whack like duck suggests, go to your doc or endo and tell him/her whats happening. Lastly we are all here to help each other so please keep us informed
Keep smiling
Azza

pooh3465
09-04-2007, 09:17 AM
One thing I want to warn you against and ask your doctor to make sure I am not incorrect but my sister is kinda borderline schitofrenic,(sp) so she got to where she was checking her bloodsugar almost 25 times a day if she got a reading that was not what she wanted she took another reading in a few minutes and it was always alot different. Remember when you take your sugar and it says you ar low treat the low sugar then wait 20-30 min and check again. I am a brittle diabetic I have had diabetes since I was 11. My sugars fluxuate so much it is rediculous but the only way you are going to figure out what is causing what is to keep a real detailed diary or log book. If you get the chance write down....ex... band 6:30 then write what you eat or do like we were practicing the songs more then marching tonight. Even if you remember something later go write it down because different exercises will have different effects on your bloodsugars. So will your emotions so write down if you flunked a test and were upset by it and try to jot down a time. Take it to your doctor and look over it with him. I know this sounds like alot of work but believe me I didn't do this when I was your age my family was of the opinion that I was just normal and if i took insulin everything would be fine it took me til the age of 42 to make myself realize that that is not true. Don't be embarrassed by your diabetes if it wasn't that it would be something else for people to notice. The pump will give you such freedom when you follow the instructions and you will see that diabetes isn't that bad it's just a bump in the road we call life and you having diabetes is going to help someone else in your family when they get diabetes. So try not to stress remember to wash your hands before doing your blood sugar (i didn't know that fact until i read these letters that must be why they always wanted us to use alcohol before we tested) Keep some records everything you can give to your doctor about your activity and moods will help them get you straightened out and its an ongoing battle honey just keep trying. Do your best it will work out trust me and visit these forums often everyone here has such good advice and they are a great support system. I have had diabetes for 31 years and this is the first time I have had other diabetics to talk to so make sure you look up a support group in you town and try to do some of the activities with the diabetes foundation. Sorry it is a book hon but I do really know what you are going through I have been there and would have given anything if I would have had the knowledge then that I do now about diabetes. Please feel free to write me anytime about anything I will be thrilled if this helps you any.....April