Do these people really exist?

[brownsugarbetes]

Is there anybody out there with a diabetes success story. Anyone who can say that they did all they were supposed to do and it worked. Now they live their life without all the drama the stickiing and constant testing? i know we will always have this disease but i used to think that at one time if I did everything i could live my life as though i didn't have the disease. In a positive way not like i do now where i don't take care of this disease.

[EasyType2]

Yes, they do exist.

My Mother was T-2, and lived to age 74. She died of liver cancer.

My Aunt, sister of my mother, is T-2, now aged 74, and doing well. Rarely takes any orals meds, and controls D by diet.

My great-aunt lived to age 93 with T-2 and never reached the point of needing insulin. She did take orals for many years.

I'm pushing 70 hard and have been Dxed with T-2 for 19 years. I'm in pretty good shape, all things considered.

So, yes, they do exist.

[Dawn]

I'm not sure what drama there is in sticking and constant testing but I know initially when I was diagnosed everything felt so overwhelming and unfamiliar. I was also angry and sad and just so mad about this disease.

Now, I'd like to share with you how I feel. I no longer feel the intensity of those feelings. I never forget that I am diabetic but it is not in the forefront of my mind.

I've been able to control with diet and exercise. I do test every day and when I add a new food I test more frequently. I've lost 100 pounds and I've learned what food works and what doesn't. I no longer have to ponder every single thing I put in my mouth because I know for the most part what will work. I feel like a 'regular' person most of the time.

I live my life and I have diabetes. I do not have diabetes and then live my life.

Because I felt so overwhelmed early on I knew I could only concentrate on 1 thing at a time...and 1 disease at a time (I also needed to be focusing on heart issues). I ate for my meter...that was all I could do initially. For me that meant more fat and protein in my diet and less carbs and no sugar. I knew once I stabalized my numbers the next thing I would add was exercise. I eventually did that. The next thing I added was increasing my water intake. Now, I've added heart health. I buy things that have less fat and I am now taking a cholesterol medication because I wasn't able to bring down the LDL as low as it needed to be (also have gentics to play into that one).

Do what you can - but do something. It really does get better for many, many of us.

Now, the next thing I need to add is a boyfriend. That's next on the list :)

[princesslinda]

I think if you read enough on the forum, you'll see many success stories of people with diabetes. To me, anyone who works hard to control their diabetes on a daily basis IS A SUCCESS! It's way easier to ignore it for awhile (T2s) than to take control of it....but in the end ignoring it only brings on more complications.

As for sticking and testing...its only as much of a drama/inconvenience as you allow it to be. So much of good diabetes control, in my opinion, has to do with attitude. If you concentrate on all the things you CAN'T have to eat , or the fact that you have to stick yourself a few times a day, or take medication(s)you can feel overwhelmed. If, however, you look at is as this is just another part of your life now and that your medication(s), or your diet/exercise routine or even sticking/testing yourself as things that will only help enhance your quality of life, you'll feel better about it.

Ultimately, you have the choice on how to manage your diabetes. If you look at it as a big inconvenience, you're not going to manage it as well. Its not going to go away regardless.

For me, I feel I will probably live longer now with diabetes, as it causes me to take better care of myself than I did before diagnosis. Sure I miss being able to eat what I want when I want, but fretting over the past doesn't change my present. What I do now, however, will ultimately affect my future.

You hang in there! Diabetes gets easier to deal with as time passes.

[slipperyelm]

Which part of managing your diabetes to you most wish was easier for you, brownsugarbetes?

Is the testing scary to you? Or maybe it is too painful? Back when I had a meter that needed much more blood and I had a hard time getting enough blood, it was painful and anxiety provoking. I had to psych myself up to it. But an improved meter and some other things makes it much easier and less painful to test. Now, it is no big deal at all. Could you use some help with testing more easily?

I think it is interesting that you said there is drama in managing diabetes. I don't see it that way, so I'm pretty sure you and I are in a really different place with managing. I'd like to help, if I can.

[Alice]

I think after living "successfully" for 41 years with this disease...I truly exist...and have little drama in my life. I do take care of myself and don't feel that it takes anything away from "life". My priorities may be different than some of my friends...but aren't they always?

[Lloyd]

I consider myself a success story. T2 13 years, no complications, my last A1c was 5.5.

-Lloyd

[mortis505]

My Grandma Miley had T2 for many years (20+) and kept it controlled quite well. She passed away several years ago from stomach cancer. When I was a kid one of my friends dad had been managing D from the time he was 10-12 until I knew him in his 40s. Last I heard he was still doing well.

[brownsugarbetes]

*** this is my take on diabetes-these are various feelings and emotions that i continue to experience. they do jump back and forth but you should get the gist of it***

a1c----10.0
avg bs.....247 and
protein in my urine.

i can't function on diabetes meds. I cannot afford to make mistakes at work. I cannot take off from work to be a diabetic for a day or two. I cannot continue to worship the porcelain goddess when something does not agree with me whether its from teh top or the bottom. I am really just wasting money, i go get the meds and then don't take them.I would have soooo much more money if ti weren't for this ****ed disease. I cannot continue to listen to phys and drs who sound like advocates of nike-just do it. That would be like me telling someone with asthma what to do and I dont' have asthma.

Lets not start on depression. Man i couldn't be happy if i wanted to. the crying, the crying til you throw up, the not being able to stop throwing up. I already have problems with my esophagus and now I am throwing up stomach acid.....YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. I think i would rather be in ****. Oh wait never mind I am already there with this disease.

in the case of me not being here, it will just be my time to go.The sweats the beyond constatn urination-i might as well wear a diaper...seriously....then now this new thing....o10 mins tops and i am in the bathroom.....get real. this is no way to live.....stay on track for a month....It just doesn't work. I am already convinced this disease will be the death of me...I say stop trying to fight the reaper just relax and let him get you. That is my take on this. I give up and I am not going back. I am sleepy so I am goign to bed..have that 3hr x-ray in the morning.....dread....
and my food does not go where its supposed to it just sits at the top of my stomach....i had one of those tests where they look down your esophagus....yeah dr said i am in in trouble. now i am going to have a 3 hr x-ray. not to mention dr says i am supposed to eat 5-6 small meals a day.

You know what!! I have had it, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome? What the L is that? You know if it is not one thing with this doggone disease it is another. PMS, PCOS, BS, HDL, LDL, LOWS, HIGHS, EXCERCISE, DIETS, FASTING, MOOD SWINGS LIKE WHEN THE RUSSIAN HIT APOLLO AND HE DIED-INTENSE SWINGS-(ROCKY 4), STICKING, POKING, CHECKING, INJECTING, EATING, NOT SLEEPING, not to mention i have fallen 3 Times, PAIN KILLERS, SORENESS, CRAMPS, BLOATING, EXCESSIVE EXCESSING FATIGUE, BACK PAIN, DEPRESSION, SHAKING, LOSS OF APPETITE, CHARLIE HORSES,
what's a girl to do?

i don't want to deal with this anymore. So i don't. I only go to the dr so that when I talk to the ins co they know that i went. have a nurse that calls me every few months. this disease is a pain in my....and my fingers too....I have been cursed for life. I am not happy anymore. Have not been for about 6-8 mos. Don't do happy drugs....i don't take diabetes meds so why would i take those. i don't see how people do this day in and day out. from sun up to sun down. in their sleep and while they are awake subconsciously. uggh i don't feel good. headaches again.

I alive and that is really all i have. Notning has changed....I could swing insults and do the name calling bit but why? There is no point to it. i don't feel better but i don't feel worse. I talked to my Insurance nurse...told her, I just don't want to do it anymore. She continually tried to encourage me, that is all she could do. You can't compare me to a child because a child only does can do what he or or she is told. You do all the work to ensure his or her health. There are plenty of people who don't want to acknowledge an illness or disease. They are still living their lives. I don't know what is worse, having people label you, this ****ed disease, or a yeast infection. I am still unhappy and still unmotivated.

they want me to eat six small meals a day. I asked them when? They suggested seeing a dietician. I said who is going to pay for it? and when is it that I can go?

The said control your sugars, i said...you control them if it bothers you so much. That is just where I am at with this.

am on byetta 10mcg 2'x a day
metformin 3 x's a day and prandin a total of two pills 3 times a day. I am supposed to eat 6 meals a day, and exercise. i work two jobs and am working a master's degree. I was recently promoted on one job and have to act as manager. there is protein where it should not be and my avg bs level is 276 as of june of 07.

I don't do the anti-depressant thing because i have heard too many bad things and those outweigh the good. i don't take the meds i am on so for me to go to a dr and ask for something else I am not going to take is a waste.

i don't know what i am going to do about this ****ed disease but all that is asks of a person is ridiculous. At one time I wanted to fight this disease that was years ago.

i check back so that people know i am still alive. i dont' consider myself a religious person although I am baptist and attend church every once and a blue moon. it is too much work, checking, sticking poking testing, it might as well be a full time job. i have always felt that if something was meant to kill me it would. Being that only once have i ever had good control, this disease and i aren't a good match. When i am hungry i want to eat, what i want and when i want to eat it. As far a depression goes, yeah my dr says i am depressed but I am not taking anything and will not take anything. I have probably been depressed for awhile. I have days and weeks where i don't talk to people even at work, i speak to be polite but that is it. i tell my friends i need space, that usually ends up being for weeks at a time. i don't go out, don't call anyone, don't socialize. I shut myself off. then i come out of it and am somewhat back to normal. That is just the way I live.

As far as diabetes, and all that goes with it, if it is meant to kill me it will just have to. I don't have time, energy, or the will, want, or need to deal with it.

I take a shot or a pill to make people happy, that is it, when I am on my own , I am on my own. I have probably wasted a couple hundred dollars in meds. I have meds all over my house. i am out of metformin. I start to think i should load up on that and get rid of this weight.

not too much going on. changed degrees, moved my nephew to college. Now i have this nasty taste everyday when i wake upand this feeling like I could collapse at any point. thats life and my vision is getting worse. Night sweats, smells from "places" all i want to do is sleep. Just thought i would give you an update, i didn't want to seem like a complete....b*&^h!!!

let me start off by saying that i do appreciate that fact that you all are concerned for my well being. the truth of the matter is i just don't have what it takes to fight this disease. financially, emotionally or otherwise. I wish i could say that my diabetes makes me an individual who strives and works that much harder, but it doesn't. I am fighting a never ending battle. A battle with me, this ****ed disease and then trying to find even a shred of me that wants to fight this disease. i still say if this disease is meant to kill me then it will, if not then i will live and if i am meant to have some sort of complication so be it. Yes this disease kills people on a daily basis. i died with my diagnosis. I tried to return from the dead only to die all over again with the depression and the diabetes. My spirit is dead and my soul is in a close second. Please don't be angry with me, I am just honest about what i know about MY situation. and the truth is no one know what it is like to be ME with this disease. You know what it is like to be you and to deal with it from your angle. No one in this forum knows me. You only know that I am a diabetic who is working a master's degree in leadership, has two jobs andd hates this disease. I am tired of going to the dr and being scolded or feeling like even more of a terrible person than i feel on a regular basis. I have been telling this story for almost a year and no one hears me. I am a case in someone's file cabinet. everyone acts like I am sooo far gone and that I am selfish or just need to grow up. You can think that, and assume what you want, but we all know what assuming does and u can leave me out of it. I admire those of you who want to fight this disease and help your children fight this disease. I don't have it in me to fight this disease and honestly the more i read what you guys write adn sometimes when you bicker amongst each other, i just get off, eat some ice cream, drink a glass of water and go to sleep. i am not motivated to be a diabetic nor live a diabetic lifestyle. So when people ask me how's its going:IT SUCKS IT SUCKS IT REALLY REALLY SUCKS!!
but that is only something you all know. so for those of you that consider me ungrateful, well, that is is you. If i didn't think that maybe something could be said in here, then i wouldn't come back at all. YES all of you have made me angry, or cry at some point. but it is because I am frustrated that I have found yet another thing i cannot do because of this ****ed disease. It is a curse. So, with that being, yes I still may delete this account, i don't belong here. Dlife is for people LIVING AND LEADING A DIABETIC LIFESTYLE. I am just complaining about. The stumbling, the dizziness, the night sweats, the disorientations, chest a pains and just feeling like I am not in control and my vision deteriorating. and I doubt there is anyone out there who can help me help myself even If i wanted to. somedays i do, some days i don't.

that's all for today....i just wish someone understood. You can say that I am pathetic or lazy or ungrateful, but the truth of the matter is ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN WHERE I AM, IT WAS JUST EASIER FOR YOU TO GET OUT OF YOUR RUT.

[RobiJo]

You are certainly having a rough go of it. Thiings can get better. The thing about Diabetes is that YOU are in charge. Everyone has their bad days but those who "make it" do exist. When managing your D becomes as routine as brushing your teeth and showering. I've lived my whole conscious life with D and I wouldn't give it back for anything. I wish I would have taken better care of myself in college, but I would much rather have diabetes than lots of other diseases. If I could relive my life without D, I would not do it. It is such a huge part of who I am and who I've become. Good Luck to you and I hope you find the support at DF that you are seeking.

[Funnygrl]

Brownsugarbetes-

Here's my advice to you, take it for what it's worth.

1. I recommend counseling. I was having a really hard time with it for awhile, did counseling, and I feel like it helped. It sounds like a lot of your issues with the disease could improve with a different attitude.

2. The more you test, the less it will hurt.

3. Get off byetta. That **** would make anyone puke.

4. Ask about adding insulin You'll feel much better with an a1c below 10.

[volleyball]

It is sad you are having so many troubles. The longer you ignore it, the worse it will get.
Change is hard. Lots of work. Will take a long time. You need to start making repairs if you want to end up with a happy life. Anybody going through the restoration see only the dirt and hard work. But once you get there, all you think is "It's was worth it"
I am much younger now then years ago and before I was diagnosed. You can do it.

[someone]

I consider myself a success. My a1c is always below 6.5 and I have complete freedom. I'm with the others, you need to change your attitude because this disease CAN be controlled. There is not reason to let it control you. If medication isn't working for you, you might consider starting insulin injections.

[brownsugarbetes]

here is my drug repertoire
byetta x2 10mcg
lantus 10units (2's
metformin 1000mg 2's
prandin 2mg 3xs

i am all drugged out

[slipperyelm]

You mention dlife. I assume that is another website, but I think I have also heard it is a cable tv program? Sorry, I don't have cable, but if you meant to address this to dlife people, you might be in the wrong place. Or perhaps that is your general term for people with diabetes. I'm not sure. That just stuck out to me.

I have a glimpse now of what you mean by drama. You do sound dramatic. You do sound like you have the reactionary-ness of a depressed and somewhat angry person. But you don't want to treat that with drugs. There are other therapies for depression beside drugs. Someone mentioned counseling. I will mention electroconvulsive therapy, though it sounds brutal, even to me who is mentioning it.

I wonder, too, why you aren't on MDI insulin if nothing else has made any breakthrough for you. Does insulin just seem like a heavy drug to you? Some would respond that it is not a drug; it is a hormone--- which of course it is. Have you tried, but were unable to find the type of insulin(s) which was(were) compatible with your body and routines?....Should your lantus be increased?

Even gastroparesis (slow emptying of the stomach ) has some treatments. Tough ones, some of the treatments are--including a surgery to the vagus nerve, I think I've read. But there are options.

Do you generally keep up with what is out there for addressing the kind of medical problems you have, especially the ones caused by or exacerbated by diabetes? I'm not clear as to whether you already know all this stuff and even more, or whether, you have not heard about the many options for your many problems. I'm guessing that you know a lot, but that you just don't have the will to do it.

Yes, you are a special case. Yes, your combination of problems and things you need to work on (including your two jobs and master's degree and responsibility for managing others) do constitute a special case. Yes, it is tough. It sounds to me you are well aware of the tremendous problems and tired of dealing with them less effectively in total than you wish you were. I don't have a magic wand to make it go away, sorry.

Is there any chance that you need to drop something from all that you are trying to accomplish until you have accomplished better health? It is, for example, hard for me to imagine the circumstances in which completing your masters could be more important than salvaging your life. But maybe there is a way in which your life or the life of someone else depends on your finishing that degree.

To get back to your question about drama: My life is not the least bit dramatic. My life is hum-drum, plain, and would make the most boring book. But it is full of happiness and satisfaction with myself and my family, and some of the beautiful people I know. The most dramatic thing that has happened to me in the last couple months is that I was a passenger in the car when my husband drove it over a curb. (where's that eye-rolling emoticon?) See? No drama here....But I don't think you are in an emotional place to be ready to take hope from hearing that not every diabetic person's life is dramatic. I don't really think you care about other people's drama or the lack thereof. I think you really just want the drama in your own life to be over with.

[brownsugarbetes]

this clearly isn't the place for me. Thanks i will be leaving now.

[Funnygrl]

here is my drug repertoire
byetta x2 10mcg
lantus 10units (2's
metformin 1000mg 2's
prandin 2mg 3xs

i am all drugged out
You need more Lantus then, plus some rapid insulin, if you're actually taking the meds. If you're not, then there you have it.

[gettingby]

this clearly isn't the place for me. Thanks i will be leaving now.
Why do you think this isn't the place for you?
Yes, there are success stories out there. Some have had difficulties dealing with diabetes and have continued on to live good lives. I'm not saying that your feelings are wrong. It's all in how you approach it. Not taking your meds or watching things is not good for you. Do you have a close family member or local support group that could help you?

[brownsugarbetes]

clearly i am meant to have this disease or i would have responded to the drugs by now....its been 3 yrs....

[Funnygrl]

clearly i am meant to have this disease or i would have responded to the drugs by now....its been 3 yrs....
Are you taking them though? Drugs only work when they're in your body...

[juls]

My boyfriend has just recently been diagnosed as type 2. He has said the same thing..this is so overwhelming. I know it's easy for me when I'm not the one having to do it, but we are getting through it together. We are learning what he can and can't do....although we have been learning that the hard way.

[Alice]

I've grown up with this disease and refused to let diabetes affect my early school years, high school & college. I have had very high stress jobs with hectic travel schedules. You name it.

I just don't buy the fact that you can't incorporate this disease into your life. Not to sound harsh, but make it work for you. I've left meetings to grab a coke when my blood sugar was plummeting. Honestly, no one even cared but me.

Get to your doctor's appointments and make every second count. Go in with a list of questions and don't leave until they are answered. If you have a doctor that isn't treating you with respect, then either change doctors or change your approach to doctors. I have "shopped" doctors like I shop for a sofa. It has to be a comfortable relationship...but you have to work as hard...or more hard...than the doctor. That's just the way it is.

If you aren't at least doing the basics: Eating healthy, taking medication and testing throughout the day...then you really don't have a leg to stand on. If you think testing a few times a day is difficult, then just wait til the kidney failure sets in. It doesn't have to happen unless you let it happen.

I'm sorry to sound harsh as this is definitely a support forum. But take it from a few successful diabetics...it takes effort. Your original post was a question if anyone out there was "successful"...it's not a magical place. It's hard work. But I don't think any one day in my life has been a hardship. I've taken two sick days in my entire life from my career...and that was to have my wisdom teeth removed.

Maybe if you could tell us how it's difficult to incorporate into your job. We all know the problems of low blood sugar...but a few glucose tabs in your pocket can do wonders. (I fought that for years...they really are the fastest & easiest!)

I've had jobs when I couldn't sit down and eat lunch. So, I cut my food up and ate throughout the day. I had to make it work. It worked. Good luck.

[brownsugarbetes]

I've grown up with this disease and refused to let diabetes affect my early school years, high school & college. I have had very high stress jobs with hectic travel schedules. You name it.

I just don't buy the fact that you can't incorporate this disease into your life. Not to sound harsh, but make it work for you. I've left meetings to grab a coke when my blood sugar was plummeting. Honestly, no one even cared but me.

Get to your doctor's appointments and make every second count. Go in with a list of questions and don't leave until they are answered. If you have a doctor that isn't treating you with respect, then either change doctors or change your approach to doctors. I have "shopped" doctors like I shop for a sofa. It has to be a comfortable relationship...but you have to work as hard...or more hard...than the doctor. That's just the way it is.

If you aren't at least doing the basics: Eating healthy, taking medication and testing throughout the day...then you really don't have a leg to stand on. If you think testing a few times a day is difficult, then just wait til the kidney failure sets in. It doesn't have to happen unless you let it happen.

I'm sorry to sound harsh as this is definitely a support forum. But take it from a few successful diabetics...it takes effort. Your original post was a question if anyone out there was "successful"...it's not a magical place. It's hard work. But I don't think any one day in my life has been a hardship. I've taken two sick days in my entire life from my career...and that was to have my wisdom teeth removed.

Maybe if you could tell us how it's difficult to incorporate into your job. We all know the problems of low blood sugar...but a few glucose tabs in your pocket can do wonders. (I fought that for years...they really are the fastest & easiest!)

I've had jobs when I couldn't sit down and eat lunch. So, I cut my food up and ate throughout the day. I had to make it work. It worked. Good luck.


you probably wanted it to work, i don't really care anymore i have had it. the question i asked in another forum was, what is so bad about not giving this disease any attention, besides the diabetes horrors and death? A person has to want to deal with it and have the time and energy and that i don't have nor do i want to. So i am going to eat cinnamon roll #3 and then go do my homework. All people say is that i want to die and that these forums are not here to support me killing myself. But the truth is i am just honest. i am not happy go lucky about this disease. This disease has not done anything for me but cause me anguish and disgust. i post so that people know that every body is not a success story. That is just the truth.

[brownsugarbetes]

I don't live for anyone but myself. living for other people is a waste. what happens when you call yourself living for these people and they die and you are left here, then what?

[mzteacher]

dear brown sugar,
i am sorry for the pain you are feeling....i wish i could say more to make you feel better....i am still working through my feelings about all this myself...it has only been since the end of may...i have learned so very much from this forum...but there are people whose posts i will not read....i take your initial question as some one looking for hope....i too am looking for hope....and have not found the people who feel compelled to tell a new person here they have a death sentence helpful....i can not imagine getting any satisfaction out of spreading fear...but there are others who have been an inspiration and a wealth of information which i don't know how i could have gotten this far with out....which is most of the people here....they have been a blessing in my life since diagnosis....when i some times have felt abandoned by God....i have done much more reading here than writing.....i think you have made yourself very vulnerable sharing your feelings (more courage than i might have!)....i wish for you some moments of peace and hope....i wish this for us all : )
susan

[Harold]

you probably wanted it to work, i don't really care anymore i have had it. the question i asked in another forum was, what is so bad about not giving this disease any attention, besides the diabetes horrors and death? A person has to want to deal with it and have the time and energy and that i don't have nor do i want to. So i am going to eat cinnamon roll #3 and then go do my homework. All people say is that i want to die and that these forums are not here to support me killing myself. But the truth is i am just honest. i am not happy go lucky about this disease. This disease has not done anything for me but cause me anguish and disgust. i post so that people know that every body is not a success story. That is just the truth.What you do not realize is that most of us have known or been related to people like yourself. Known others that think they do not have to manage it, because their doctors will do it for them. Unfortunately this describes most diabetics all headed for the same conclusion. What we are trying to do is fairly new with a better promise of the future. No, it has not been proven because it will take 3 to 5 decades to prove. We may not be any better off than the other group, but self management feels a lot better than the misery your enjoying.

I think your here for one of two reasons. One you have wrapped yourself up in your own little pity party, and since misery loves company you have found yourself seeking company. Well your looking for it in the wrong place. The other option, your just pulling our leg trying to make people feel sorry for you. Well sorry it's your choice and I for one do not feel sorry for you. Nor do I hold myself responsible for your actions or lack of action.

Either way until your willing to help yourself there is not much any of us can help you with. So until then I will just ignore you. Which is my recommendation to the other members.

[Funnygrl]

OMG, Harold, you said it perfectly.

I don't feel sorry for you either. We all have to deal with the cards we've been dealt, and if you're chosen not to deal with it, then that's your call, but you need to live with the consequences. If you were doing everything you could to get things under control and couldn't, then we'd feel bad, and try to help you through it, but from what I can tell, you have no interest in improving anything.

And if you've come looking for more miserable people, you've come to the wrong place, since there's more success stories than not on this board. And we're about winning, not whining about losing here.

[Nita]

You know what!! I have had it, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome? What the L is that? You know if it is not one thing with this doggone disease it is another. PMS, PCOS, BS, HDL, LDL, LOWS, HIGHS, EXCERCISE, DIETS, FASTING, MOOD SWINGS LIKE WHEN THE RUSSIAN HIT APOLLO AND HE DIED-INTENSE SWINGS-(ROCKY 4), STICKING, POKING, CHECKING, INJECTING, EATING, NOT SLEEPING, not to mention i have fallen 3 Times, PAIN KILLERS, SORENESS, CRAMPS, BLOATING, EXCESSIVE EXCESSING FATIGUE, BACK PAIN, DEPRESSION, SHAKING, LOSS OF APPETITE, CHARLIE HORSES,
what's a girl to do?

Reviewing the above quote.... in this person's profile it says he/she is a MALE ?? Am I missing something here??

Nita

[cheryl]

I've ignored my diabetes just took my shots and went about my business for years, the meter case had dust on it, I had a1c's in the 12's didn't care, just wanted to be normal...go out have fun eat, be merry....the whole nine yards.....

Well I would be a bit better after i would get pregnant, the back to the old routine, now I just ate food, it's not like I pigged out, but didn't measure count look wonder, assume, just knew I would be in the 300's around pms, a1c's after my third son were in the 8's because I had more routine, and ate the same amounts of stuff, but still didn't test just played the guessing game...

Well my body didn't want to play anymore, when I hit 567 in August I felt like I was gonna die...seriously, then I would get low, and it made me paranoid, I was depressed nothing was working, I didn't know what the **** to do......in all and all, when you hit what I did, I had lost my job, because my body finally said screw you.....

So yea, maybe I had some time to work at it, but I think taking care of the house the bills, four to seven kids, school, sports, being a wife, a mother to a ton, a daughter, being full responsible for the other 8 peoples needs, ex's drama, inlaw drama, financial messes where I had to wrap paper around my undies cause I had no money...for tampons or pads, and wash my hair in body wash....I was responsible for managing the bills, all of it, my husban just worked.....

So I think this is a lot more then a **** job, and I managed.....I am not knocking you, your right you have to want it.....I just didn't like the way I felt anymore, you feel the way you do, because your bloodsugars are not level, and it makes you worse, it is chemically imbalancing your brain....it did mine....I was like you didn't want med's and know since I am more controlled, I never needed them, My friend when she visited me, was trying to convince my hubby last year I needed help, be put on med's NO I was out of control...flipping from 40-400, was not good on the moods....so yea, I can see why you feel the way you do, Your bloodsugars are making you in a bad place, You don't need meds you need a game plan....

Ok here is what I did, I cut out bad foods, but still picked foods I was not willing to give up period....So then I worked my insulin around my diet............I worked it around me.....Yea I had ups and downs, and I had why me, I hate this why why why, but do I want to go back to the place I was last year **** no.....I was becoming a mental case, I couldn't function at all....

You have a choice in life, this is a wake up call deep down you do care about yourself you know you do....Deep down you want to feel good.....Up your med's ask for fast acting insulin, learn to carb count and match your insulin....I heard byetta does not mix well with insulin your should be on lantus if your on byetta....or that is what I heard.....Try something different......whatever it takes......You wouldn't be here if you didn't care, or need support.....WE all need support this is hard **** it is. Some have the big chip on there shoulders, I don't I know it's hard but for your sake.....Take baby steps, Stay with us, pm me if you must Have a good cry...just don't give up.....

Take your wake up call as a warning, this is your chance to get it right you will....it's hard, it will never be perfect, some have it made, other's don't I have bumpy days, it depends.....

Good luck girl..

Cheryl

[Nita]

Cheryl,

You say, "Good luck, girl".

I still say in this person's profile it says he is a MALE.

What gives?

Nita

[cheryl]

It looks like they really didn't pay attention to the profile details, because when you sign up it says male first, or whatever....it could be that, or it could be a false thing, but the way it sounds I don't think it is........

Cheryl

[Alice]

I think the "sign up" box defaults to male unless you check it. Same thing happened to me! (I'm all girl!)...I didn't designate the other info (location, type, male/female)...I have sinced fixed the male issue.

I think most of us have learned that "knowledge is power" when dealing with diabetes. I've learned more from the internet than 30 years of doctors...with the exception of my first pediatrician (who 40 years ago never mentioned avoiding sugar...he was from Mayo practicing in TN!)...he was all about living life as a normal child and making insulin work for me.

I still take that advice with me today. But, things have improved since the 60's.

I still wish there were diabetic camps for adults. That was a big eye-opener for me back in 6th-7th grade. (Yes, we still partied and chased boys at camp!)...occasionally we'd let them catch us! It took the "poor me" out of the equation.

I suggest the original poster find a diabetic friend, not necessarily a support group. These friends are not hard to find.

[volleyball]

clearly i am meant to have this disease or i would have responded to the drugs by now....its been 3 yrs....

you probably wanted it to work, i don't really care anymore i have had it. the question i asked in another forum was, what is so bad about not giving this disease any attention, besides the diabetes horrors and death? A person has to want to deal with it and have the time and energy and that i don't have nor do i want to. So i am going to eat cinnamon roll #3 and then go do my homework. All people say is that i want to die and that these forums are not here to support me killing myself. But the truth is i am just honest. i am not happy go lucky about this disease. This disease has not done anything for me but cause me anguish and disgust. i post so that people know that every body is not a success story. That is just the truth.

You need to be honest with yourself. You take pills but don't do anything that would give you great benefit. Changing you attitude is free, just a lot of work. Eating better does not cost you more, just have to think and the do it. Exercise, walking is free, maybe do it in a nicer surrounding. You'll feel better emotionally and if you stick with it, your body will feel and be better. 3 cinnamon buns is excessive. A waste of money. You say you are busy working on your degree, for what? Nobody is going to hire someone with bad health. and you won't be able to even finish your degree if your health fails first.
We are only better at this then you in your mind because we put this a priority, you can too. Most people do fail at diabetes. Because they do not work at it. It's like a relationship, if you ignore it, you'll end up paying the price.

I don't think you are at home giggling about us feeling sorry for you. You have nothing to gain from that. We will not be sending you gifts or awards for any of this. It's good that you've reach out. we will offer support as long as you make an effort to take care of yourself. You have to decide for yourself.

[brownsugarbetes]

i am female and have been for 28 years.

[Alice]

It's not clear (you mentioned taking an occasional shot) if you are Type I or II...I am assuming Type II since you posted under that topic.

If the oral pills are making you sick, too sick to take and function...then you may be an excellent candidate for insulin. I think with your schedule, a pump would be life-changing (this coming from someone who prefers the insulin pens and love them!)

I'm puzzled how you are able to work on a master's degree (something I never had time for...but wished) but not your health. Yes, you are on overload. Maybe take a break from school until you get your health on track. I agree with the earlier post that getting hired with poor health is almost impossible. Staying hired is even more difficult.

Sounds like you are seeing a doctor if all these test are being ordered. Gastroparesis is a symptom of poor control...the stomach nerve doesn't trigger the digestive mechanism. I had the test (it was relaxing!) but came out negative. I had an overeager doctor which I now appreciate...at least she ordered the test.

Twenty-eight is a tough age for diabetes. My career was just taking off and my schedule was crazy...my social life was good! It was a few years later that I put it all together. But, that was prior internet also...and meters were just being introduced. Take advantage of these wonderful inventins and be thankful for them...not resentful. Many of us have lived without them and believe me...that's when I felt like you did.

[brownsugarbetes]

It's not clear (you mentioned taking an occasional shot) if you are Type I or II...I am assuming Type II since you posted under that topic.

If the oral pills are making you sick, too sick to take and function...then you may be an excellent candidate for insulin. I think with your schedule, a pump would be life-changing (this coming from someone who prefers the insulin pens and love them!)

I'm puzzled how you are able to work on a master's degree (something I never had time for...but wished) but not your health. Yes, you are on overload. Maybe take a break from school until you get your health on track. I agree with the earlier post that getting hired with poor health is almost impossible. Staying hired is even more difficult.

Sounds like you are seeing a doctor if all these test are being ordered. Gastroparesis is a symptom of poor control...the stomach nerve doesn't trigger the digestive mechanism. I had the test (it was relaxing!) but came out negative. I had an overeager doctor which I now appreciate...at least she ordered the test.

Twenty-eight is a tough age for diabetes. My career was just taking off and my schedule was crazy...my social life was good! It was a few years later that I put it all together. But, that was prior internet also...and meters were just being introduced. Take advantage of these wonderful inventins and be thankful for them...not resentful. Many of us have lived without them and believe me...that's when I felt like you did.

i don't want anything that reminds me i have this wretched dissease. i was told that type 2's can't have pumps.
if that thing being attached to me takes away most of the daily reminders of this disease and can stop me from ahving to stop my life to take care of it a majority of the time then fine. but pills, sticks, pokes, blood draws, counting carbs, shakes, vision issues, constant watching of what i eat, not eating or eating when i want to is ridiculous. no one should live like that.

[cheryl]

i don't want anything that reminds me i have this wretched dissease. i was told that type 2's can't have pumps.
if that thing being attached to me takes away most of the daily reminders of this disease and can stop me from ahving to stop my life to take care of it a majority of the time then fine. but pills, sticks, pokes, blood draws, counting carbs, shakes, vision issues, constant watching of what i eat, not eating or eating when i want to is ridiculous. no one should live like that.

No we shouldn't but we do....we don't have a choice....I am kind of glad I got diabetes, I'd be a fat drug addicted person if I didn't. When I got diabetes(when I was 12 not as an adult and didn't have the choice of oral med's and diet and execercise), I was before then overwieght, made fun of the works, I tried making myself puke a couple of times because the world is mean, that wasn't fair either.....I could eat like everyone else but I was chunky, I hated the thin girls.........pissed me off, but me loosing a bunch of weight was only because I was getting diabetes..

As a teenager of a drug addicted father, I was faced with tons of drugs and alcohol, and more and more food, I knew I had to limit my food, and not try to experiment with drugs, cause I was afraid since I was a diabetic I'd drop dead...

Back then diabetes saved me.........from more heartache then taking shots, I think eventually I would of killed myself because of being heavy prior to that and then I wouldn't worry about the risk of doing any kind of drug....

But now that I am a more mature responsible adult, I didn't do what I was supposed to do, I went thru that **** spell your going thru, why do I have to live like this....Why can't I just eat when I want toooo...but all the **** food that I stay away from now is probably saving me from a heartattack, cancer, brain tumors, blood clots, and this is because I am diabetic and was reading about food, If I didn't have diabetes, i wouldn't care...

So it's a curse and a blessing......all rolled up in one....Met great people who understand what I am going thru to a point, I think of myself as very unique.....I am a type 1 diabetic with four boys three step kids, originally from NYC, moved to TN....survived an alcoholic and a drug addicted father, survived with a bg of over 1300 at diagnoisis.....survived all four births of my children with flying colors.....all were healthy and so was I....

I tend to think of what is special about me, that is how I cope, try it.....it works, I hate diabetes but appreciate the fact how it is probably going to make me live longer then what it would be without it.....Yes I get in those spells when I am hungry and want to eat, so I take a day off, and splurge one day won't kill no one, everyone needs a break, but first you got to really understand what the **** to do....obviously your not getting the right care of dr's like I didn't. I joined forums that saved my life.....I feel better and am not pissed off at the world anymore. But I did throw my meter and broke it two weeks ago, cause I was just magically high one day....It pisses me off....but I keep going....

I am so sorry you feel the way you do......try try try.....to get in a better place, I am sure the kids dying of cancer would rather have this, then cancer, I think that way too....it could be worse a lot worse...

Cheryl

[Alice]

One last toss, then I'm out...you're asking for relief from symptoms...but seem unwilling to to anything. I can't help you live a "successful" life...that's what you were looking for right? Success without effort, right?

Just curious, what subject is your master degree working toward? I'd love to hear more about that effort.

[RobiJo]

i don't want anything that reminds me i have this wretched dissease. i was told that type 2's can't have pumps.
if that thing being attached to me takes away most of the daily reminders of this disease and can stop me from ahving to stop my life to take care of it a majority of the time then fine. but pills, sticks, pokes, blood draws, counting carbs, shakes, vision issues, constant watching of what i eat, not eating or eating when i want to is ridiculous. no one should live like that.

You say you are in a Master's program for leadership??? Go LEAD your own life. Who would want to get any leadership advice from you. While your at it check into somewhere that will administer your meds for you. This disease does not just go away, no matter how much you wish it to be true. You obviously need meds for severe depression as well as your diabetes.

No doctor would give you a pump. You have to WANT to treat yourself to get one. You just want something that will continue to allow yourself to be LAZY. There is no magic EASY button in real life.

I'm with Tony. This forum is about support--healthy support. Unless you decide you want to LEAD and help yourself, I will ignore you.

[Janet_M]

Here's my 2 cents...

I was "lucky" enough to suffer from major depression almost 3 years ago and I've been on antidepressants ever since. They have made my life much better all the way around. When the diabetes diagnosis came in in April, I took it seriously with a postive attitude and managed to bring my numbers down very quickly. I completely changed my diet. I don't care that I can't eat what everyone else at work eats... no pizza, no potatoes, no chips, etc. I happily stick to my diet and eat my low carb fare... when asked why I'm passing on birthday cake, I tell them I'm diabetic with a smile. I think you should re-think the antidepressants that you've been offered by your doctors. Maybe after they take effect you will find a new strength to manage all your problems, including your health. I can't help but agree with the person who previously posted about your master's degree... maybe that needs to go on hold until you have your health issues under control. Antidepressants have changed my life and saved my life, and given me the strength to accept many things... including diabetes. You are obviously a very smart person... I'm sure you've heard of a self-fulfilling prophesy. Ignoring this disease will ruin or end your life. IMHO, take the antidepressants.

Best of luck and many hugs.

[someone]

i don't want anything that reminds me i have this wretched dissease. i was told that type 2's can't have pumps.
if that thing being attached to me takes away most of the daily reminders of this disease and can stop me from ahving to stop my life to take care of it a majority of the time then fine. but pills, sticks, pokes, blood draws, counting carbs, shakes, vision issues, constant watching of what i eat, not eating or eating when i want to is ridiculous. no one should live like that.

Right now, with such poor control, you are not having a life. It sounds to me like this bad control is a catalyst for your depression. If you do what you're supposed to do, you are going to live a much better life. While taking injections may be a constant reminder that you have the disease, it IS reality. You are making this disease out to be much worse than it is. You can eat what you want, you can have freedom and you can have better control if you get on a better treatment. There is no magic pill that is going to give you better control. If the pills you are currently on are not working, move on.

[Dewey]

I am so sorry you feel the way you do......try try try.....to get in a better place, I am sure the kids dying of cancer would rather have this, then cancer, I think that way too....it could be worse a lot worse...

Cheryl
Thank you, Cheryl, and I couldn't agree more....

If people think all the poking & prodding we have to do with Diabetes is bad, try living in a Cancer patient's shoes for a few days. See how some have port-a-caths placed (via surgery) into their bodies, then have to administer chemotherapy through 1/2 to 1 inch needles (YES, you all read it right!!!)! It is extremely painful when they miss! Let's also not forget the longer needles (longer than the ones we use!) that are used to administer things like Neupogen, Procrit, or Arenesp! And while we're at it, let's go over all the bone marrow biopsies (painful!), pokes in the veins, mucositis (from radiation), diarrhea, PUKING & all other fun things that go along with having (some forms of) Cancer...

Sorry, but after having been a Diabetic successfully for over 25 years & witnessing family members & friends die from things that aren't controllable, I have little patience for those who at the very least, do Not want to TRY to make their life/lives better. Also, after having First-hand knowledge (as a Caregiver) for someone with Cancer, I've seen just how he**ish it is for people with other diseases.
Oh, and for the record, everything I described about living in a Cancer patient's shoes is just the tip of the iceberg as to what happened to Carwy. One other thing: While he was undergoing his autologous-stem cell transplant (they used his own stem cells), they had me giving him 8 to 10 shots of Neupogen a DAY! At least 4 in each sitting!

Sorry if anyone thinks I'm being harsh, but I make NO apologies for my feelings based on all the he** I've seen & been through in my lifetime with regard to other diseases (that in my eyes, are far worse than Diabetes).

[notme]

Thank you Dewey. I agree again 100%. I was primary caregiver for my father who was diagnosed with lung cancer at 80. He endured a lung being removed and chemo at 80 years old. His life was **** and my life was caring for him while he lived in ****. My Dad at 80 wanted to live. He didn't embrace death no matter how painful it was for his old body.

I cared for a lovely 35 year old man who was quadraplegic and had AIDS. He also did everything in his power to live. He was my best friend. He cared for my young son while I was at work and he was sick. I would come home to find my son in his little electric toy car taking a walk with Gary (in his motorized wheelchair). Gary would have a puke bag with him, but my son was outside and happy. Gary tried to the bitter end to live in his broken and battered body. Ultimately, he did not live. He had a kind and gentle and hopeful spirit. I will miss him every day.

We are lucky in comparison.

[cheryl]

I have an honest question that hit me when I was cleaning up downstairs...So you are 28 yrs old right, and when you did try to take care of yourself nothing was working am I correct....

Do you think you could of been misdiagnoised as a type 2, and your really adult onset type 1, Maybe ask the dr to do a blood test to determine what type you are.....cause if your type 1 pills, byetta, and just a lantus shot is not going to help you at all.....

A misdiagnoisis could be what it is, If you are not on the right course of treatment, yea I guess it would be a lot more hellish on you.....I would call the dr and make an appointment to make sure you are type 2......

Just really curious about this one...

Cheryl

[brownsugarbetes]

been down the road of what was thought to be a misdiagnosis. No such luck. You cannot compare diseases, and people so don't. I refuse to be any physicians ginney pig, my advice, get it right the first time. after going through at least 7 different meds and one that i told them i couldn'thave due to an allergy they insisted upon giving it to me anyway. I only ended up sick. So unless dr's get it right the first time, i don't see them often. i refuse to allow you to practice medicine with my life. Use someone else and then let me know. I have been through highs, lows, insulin resistance etc. Find someone to administer my meds for me? Not in this state you have to be indigent or close to it. So you can ignore me if you want, i guess that fixes the problem for you.

Not acknowledging the problem doesn't make it go away, you are right, but not acknowledging those who are like me, and we do exist, doesn't make us any less of people. Some people just are willing to admit they are fed up with this disease. i have never had cancer so i don't know what it is like. I know people with it, i know people who have died from it. That is my relationship to the disease. I cannot talk about what i don't know. I know that i hate this disease with every ounce of being that i have.

i don't do antidepressants, know to many dead people that took antidepressants, so get off that soap box. You will NEVER convince me otherwise. It worked for you. Good.

Many of you don't like my honesty about being miserable. Too bad. Many of you think that my mental state has something to do with it. You tell me how to smile about something that even if i do what i am supposed to, can kill me anyway?

You tell me how to be happy with all that is associated with it-sickness, shots, insulin, meters, worrying about where i will be when my next low happens and who will or won't help me if i cant' help myself.

No, i don't like having diabetes, and i really wish i didn't know.
I used to think i could fight this disease, but i can't.

[EasyType2]

The science of medicine is not perfect. Neither are humans.

You seem to condem any other person who ever dares err in any way; yet you err in allowing a silly sickness to get the best of you.

Stop whining and start dealing with life as it is -- not as you want it to be.

[brownsugarbetes]

if we dealt with life as it is, a majority of the diabetics and the people on this site would be dead, don't ya think? You contradict yourself. It is me dealing with life as it is, diabetes, that is making most of you angry with me.

[cheryl]

Look, I was just offering some advice, this is sort of newer with adult onset type 1's that has only come about in alarming numbers in the last few years....That is the only reason I asked what I asked.....you can and I was resistant to insulin....because of the things I ate, when I was trying to get it right, I quit partially hydrogenated oils and msg, and then all of a sudden things were falling into place for me...

I too have been down your road....I really have....I am being honest with you....I don't want to see you fall off the earth and die of this....you don't deserve that either....

Me I can't understand, why if I am type 1 I make insulin more then most type 1's and why I require such a little amount now, since I changed my diet....I still eat food, I just eat healthy I eat anywhere from 130-200 carbs a day....

I know you don't or won't give yourself the time to learn about your body, but knowing how it's working it makes it so much easier....

I am not going to give you tough love, I just hope you take some advice so your not miserable....because honestly this is not going to go away, it really isn't.....I wish I can say it will but it's not....it can get easier with work, which took me years to come to the realization of that and I was *****ing and moaning and having pannic attacks and throwing things and breaking walls while I was learning, I too didn't take any anti depressant meds'' I agree those things are not good.....even though my friends and hubby were trying and now since I have gained so much better control I don't feel bad anymore but while I was going thru my change I went thru even cursing God, huddled up on the floor crying wished I was the old diabetic me.....I looked at a knife a few times and thought to fall on it....

Just I hope you do something eventually I really don't want anyone to die, and be so angry.....I am here if you need me...

cheryl

[EasyType2]

if we dealt with life as it is, a majority of the diabetics and the people on this site would be dead, don't ya think? You contradict yourself. It is me dealing with life as it is, diabetes, that is making most of you angry with me.

You're talking in riddles.

No, I did not contradict myself.

I'm not angry with you. Somewhere between frustration and disgust that you care so little for yourself you are unwilling to listen to anyone.

Bye.

[brownsugarbetes]

You're talking in riddles.

No, I did not contradict myself.

I'm not angry with you. Somewhere between frustration and disgust that you care so little for yourself you are unwilling to listen to anyone.

Bye.

Listening to others (physicians, endocrinologists, friends, family, "happy" diabetics) got me where i am today. Feeling and acting like an addict. You have a solution what is it. don't just tell me to snap of it, don't tell me that since i am working a degree that i won't live to see it, don't tell me about blindness, kidney failure and all of that. Don't tell me about amputations etc. Don't tell me about death, that is inevitable. Don't tell to to see a psychiatrist, psychologist or go to a support group. don't tell me to talk to my friends and family. don't tell me to just do it, I am not nike. Don't tell me to talk to my dr, obviously that doesn't work.Don't tell me to find it in me to live. Don't tell me to find someone or thing to live for. Don't tell me go load up on happy drugs (anti-whatevers and what have yous). everyone has an opinion about what i am saying but not one of you has a suggestion worth trying. Now maybe some of you might get it.

[gettingby]

You say you are in a Master's program for leadership??? Go LEAD your own life. Who would want to get any leadership advice from you. While your at it check into somewhere that will administer your meds for you. This disease does not just go away, no matter how much you wish it to be true. You obviously need meds for severe depression as well as your diabetes.

No doctor would give you a pump. You have to WANT to treat yourself to get one. You just want something that will continue to allow yourself to be LAZY. There is no magic EASY button in real life.

I'm with Tony. This forum is about support--healthy support. Unless you decide you want to LEAD and help yourself, I will ignore you.
Actually, it was Harold who said that. Way to go Harold. :)

What you do not realize is that most of us have known or been related to people like yourself. Known others that think they do not have to manage it, because their doctors will do it for them. Unfortunately this describes most diabetics all headed for the same conclusion. What we are trying to do is fairly new with a better promise of the future. No, it has not been proven because it will take 3 to 5 decades to prove. We may not be any better off than the other group, but self management feels a lot better than the misery your enjoying.

I think your here for one of two reasons. One you have wrapped yourself up in your own little pity party, and since misery loves company you have found yourself seeking company. Well your looking for it in the wrong place. The other option, your just pulling our leg trying to make people feel sorry for you. Well sorry it's your choice and I for one do not feel sorry for you. Nor do I hold myself responsible for your actions or lack of action.

Either way until your willing to help yourself there is not much any of us can help you with. So until then I will just ignore you. Which is my recommendation to the other members.

[Dewey]

Listening to others (physicians, endocrinologists, friends, family, "happy" diabetics) got me where i am today. Feeling and acting like an addict. You have a solution what is it. don't just tell me to snap of it, don't tell me that since i am working a degree that i won't live to see it, don't tell me about blindness, kidney failure and all of that. Don't tell me about amputations etc. Don't tell me about death, that is inevitable. Don't tell to to see a psychiatrist, psychologist or go to a support group. don't tell me to talk to my friends and family. don't tell me to just do it, I am not nike. Don't tell me to talk to my dr, obviously that doesn't work.Don't tell me to find it in me to live. Don't tell me to find someone or thing to live for. everyone has an opinion about what i am saying but not one of you has a suggestion worth trying. Now maybe some of you might get it.
Then don't tell us that you're not taking care of yourself. It is That simple. Now, maybe you'll get it.

People are trying to help, based on information you have provided to them. You are basically shooting down every idea that's been offered. Obviously, you either cannot be (or more like Refuse to be) helped by us "happy Diabetics."

You asked for success stories, but based on just What premise!? The premise of Not caring for our health!? If that's the case, you'll likely find Nobody with a success story like that.

[Carwy]

brownsugarbetes

I wish I had the hard life you have. Which one of my diseases do you want to trade me for? Hodgkin's Lymphoma, High Blood Pressure, hemochromatosis,
Pre-diabeties or stage one cirrhosis of the liver. You pick. Now remember the cirrhosis of the liver is do to all the treatment for the Hodgkin's.
Oh and by the way through it all I have NEVER EVER GAVE UP and I had a lot of support from a lot of great people on this site.

[notme]

Carwy, your location may be North of purgetory and west of torment, but you are smack dab in the middle of my heart. Thank you.

[Funnygrl]

I'm done with this thread, off to help people who give a sh!t, see ya guys in other threads.

[soso]

hmm.. this all start to smell so trollish...

ss

[cheryl]

Yea, I totally don't get this one......If your scared to die of antidepressants, how do you not have the will to live and try things, I seriously doubt she ever thought about getting off msg, or hydrogenated oils.....seriously.....given the fact you want three cinnamon buns....

I know I don't want to die......period, and will do whatever it takes to live....

This does sound a bit off to me too....and boy I admitted a lot of **** on this thread....

I feel dumb now...:confused:

Cheryl

[glashalful]

Yep, diabetes sucks. I doubt I'll never meet a single diabetic who likes all the cr*p that goes with it -- shots, finger sticks, meds, complications. And I'd be willing to bet that many diabetics throw their hands up in frustration and give up from time to time -- maybe to never go back to good control! I would guess that brownsugar has voiced what many feel (at least sometimes).

You are brave to cast a dissenting view, brownsugar, but I'm afraid most of us here are the positive, want-to-help types. We want to have "normal" lives (whatever that means) without our diabetes being a focus. Some here feel so strongly about it that there can be a tendency to take the kind of frustration and negativity that you are currently feeling personally. We want you to WANT to be better, and it's tough to hear when someone doesn't want that.

Having said all that, my advice (for whatever it's worth) is to go ahead and eat that #3 cinnamon roll, rail and rage at the unfairness of it all to whoever will listen, and hopefully you'll get it out of your system and things will start to look up. No one here wants you to be so down on life, and we all care about eachother, including you.

Elizabeth

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Listening to others (physicians, endocrinologists, friends, family, "happy" diabetics) got me where i am today. Feeling and acting like an addict. You have a solution what is it. don't just tell me to snap of it, don't tell me that since i am working a degree that i won't live to see it, don't tell me about blindness, kidney failure and all of that. Don't tell me about amputations etc. Don't tell me about death, that is inevitable. Don't tell to to see a psychiatrist, psychologist or go to a support group. don't tell me to talk to my friends and family. don't tell me to just do it, I am not nike. Don't tell me to talk to my dr, obviously that doesn't work.Don't tell me to find it in me to live. Don't tell me to find someone or thing to live for. Don't tell me go load up on happy drugs (anti-whatevers and what have yous). everyone has an opinion about what i am saying but not one of you has a suggestion worth trying. Now maybe some of you might get it.

My suggestion is: STOP LISTENING TO OTHER PEOPLE!!!
Listen to yourself, and what YOU project into YOUR LIFE. It's not anyone elses fault that you are where you are. You are abusing yourself. YOU are the only one that can control what YOU do. The diabetes doesn't control you...YOU control IT. When YOU stop blaming yourself, and START blaming yourself, you will take responsibility for the only person you have responsibility for...YOU.

Get over it and live life the way you want to live it. You are what you think. Your thoughts become things. Think fat- you are fat. Think thin- you are thin. Think life sucks...life sucks. It's all just a perception. Perception is reality. If you want to be miserable and be known as an energy sucker...keep posting the negativity. But I dare you to find ONE GOOD THING about yourself and POST IT. Just one.

I'm going to go eat a bowl of ice cream, I'm going to take the right amount of bolused insulin, and I'm going to enjoy every last lick.

Good Night.

[Carwy]

Carwy, your location may be North of purgetory and west of torment, but you are smack dab in the middle of my heart. Thank you.
Thank you Nancy :D

[Dewey]

I'm going to close this thread based on the fact that some of the threads/posts brownsugarbetes posted here are almost the same exact ones she posted on another forum under another name back in July...